Peugeot find
09-25-18, 04:20 PM
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Peugeot find
I found this bike. . Literally found it abandoned. Waited a week and no one had claimed it so i brought it home. Appears to be a 79 to 81 pkn10e, but the crank doesnt have the drilled chainrings so i am unsure.. any help? Would it be worth restoring? I do love the process, but i don't really have any feelings towards this machine one way or the other so i would likely gift it or sell it. Functionally it's all there. Rear wheel is off in the pics but i have it. 
09-25-18, 04:26 PM
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I'd restore that always liked that era of Peugeot bike colors and decals, I bet it will clean up nicely and be a good rider for someone. I would be thrilled if that model/Era Peugeot fell into my lap. This link may be helpful in identifying the frame.
09-25-18, 04:30 PM
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I'd restore that always liked that era of Peugeot bike colors and decals, I bet it will clean up nicely and be a good rider for someone. I would be thrilled if that model/Era Peugeot fell into my lap. This link may be helpful in identifying the frame.
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09-25-18, 04:44 PM
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Great find!
Yes, that Troxel, or whatever it is, has GOT to go.
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Great find!
Yes, that Troxel, or whatever it is, has GOT to go.
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09-25-18, 04:58 PM
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Those dropouts leads me to believe it’s an 80. Everything else seems to fit with it being an 80 except the crankset. Could easily enough be a Peugeot anomaly. The 79-80 time was a big transition period for Peugeot and its pretty common that the bikes that ended up at the shops for sale didn’t perfectly match what the brochures outlined. So it wouldn’t at all surprise me to see an ‘80 model sporting a ‘79 crankset. I owned what I believe is a ‘79 and it had the older type simplex dropouts and mafac centerpulls. But for all I know, mine could have been an anomaly because it was silver, which according to the brochures wasn’t available in 79 or 80. Could have been a replacement crankset by a previous owner as well. No way know. Decent bike. The 3 main tubes are straight gauge (non butted) Reynolds 531, the rest of the frame is whatever steel Peugeot manufactured. Most likely carbolite 103. The real challenge will be removing that crankset to service the bottom bracket.
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09-25-18, 05:05 PM
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Those dropouts leads me to believe it’s an 80. Everything else seems to fit with it being an 80 except the crankset. Could easily enough be a Peugeot anomaly. The 79-80 time was a big transition period for Peugeot and its pretty common that the bikes that ended up at the shops for sale didn’t perfectly match what the brochures outlined. So it wouldn’t at all surprise me to see an ‘80 model sporting a ‘79 crankset. I owned what I believe is a ‘79 and it had the older type simplex dropouts and mafac centerpulls. Could have been a replacement crankset by a previous owner as well. No way know. Decent bike. The 3 main tubes are straight gauge (non butted) Reynolds 531, the rest of the frame is whatever steel Peugeot manufactured. Most likely carbolite 103. The real challenge will be removing that crankset to service the bottom bracket.
09-25-18, 05:12 PM
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as with everything else Peugeot that’s a difficult question to answer. Could be, could not be. The 79-80 model years was when Peugeot was moving over to using English standard for their bikes. My example, believe it or not was literally a mix. It did have french threaded bb though. If yours is an 80 model, especially if it’s closer in date to 81, there’s a better chance it’s english. If it is a 79 or early 80 there’s a better chance it’s french. I’m far from an expert but I did do a lot of research when I came into possession of my pkn10 in trying to identify and date it. Peugeot was an absolute mess at the time, and I’m not sure anything they produced properly matched their sales brochures.
09-25-18, 05:18 PM
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Thanks for the reply. BB feels smooth. Someone went through some effort to keep things smooth on the not too distant past. It was clearly someone's daily transportation. Unfortunately i think it was stolen and abandoned.
09-25-18, 05:36 PM
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well best I can assume is that if it feels like it was serviced there’s a better chance it’s english. But English threaded doesn’t mean that it uses English standard 22mm crank puller. It will most likely still be the stronglight proprietary 23.35mm, in fact I’d bet on it. I don’t know that I would ride or restore to sell a rescued bike without doing a service overhaul, but I would also not presume to tell anyone else what they should do. At the end of the day, wether it’s a 79 or 80 doesn’t really make a difference. The frames were essentially the same and it’s a decent bike all around.
09-25-18, 05:40 PM
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I'll hit up my co op and ask them to inspect the bottom end. They specialize in old steel, I'm sure they would have the tools to get it done.
09-25-18, 06:54 PM
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It looks very similar to my '78, which I think is a PR10, though advertised as a PN10. The Pug model numbers are especially confusing. The decals and frame look similar to mine, but I have Mafac center pulls, and the clear plastic covered head badge. It is a great riding bike. Mine came with a Stronglight TS crank, with a stripped pedal thread. I removed the TS with great difficulty, and mounted a Sugino GT compact double. Good luck with yours. That was a great time for Pugeout color/decal combinations. I changed the brake levers to Campy aero, since it had incorrect ones when I got it anyway. The front Simplex plastic derailleur was broken so I replaced it temporarily with a Shimano Exage, which seems to work. Mine doesn't have the threaded drop out screw adjusters. Heres mine.
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09-25-18, 07:01 PM
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it looks very similar to my '78, which i think is a pr10, though advertised as a pn10. The pug model numbers are especially confusing. The decals and frame look similar to mine, but i have mafac center pulls, and the clear plastic covered head badge. It is a great riding bike. Mine came with a stronglight ts crank, with a stripped pedal thread. I removed the ts with great difficulty, and mounted a sugino gt compact double. Good luck with yours. That was a great time for pugeout color/decal combinations. I changed the brake levers to campy aero, since it had incorrect ones when i got it anyway. The front simplex plastic derailleur was broken so i replaced it temporarily with a shimano exage, which seems to work. Mine doesn't have the threaded drop out screw adjusters. Heres mine.
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It looks very similar to my '78, which I think is a PR10, though advertised as a PN10. The Pug model numbers are especially confusing. The decals and frame look similar to mine, but I have Mafac center pulls, and the clear plastic covered head badge. It is a great riding bike. Mine came with a Stronglight TS crank, with a stripped pedal thread. I removed the TS with great difficulty, and mounted a Sugino GT compact double. Good luck with yours. That was a great time for Pugeout color/decal combinations. I changed the brake levers to Campy aero, since it had incorrect ones when I got it anyway. The front Simplex plastic derailleur was broken so I replaced it temporarily with a Shimano Exage, which seems to work. Mine doesn't have the threaded drop out screw adjusters. Heres mine.
09-25-18, 07:43 PM
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yours has the pre 1979 decal scheme, but it does have the older style simplex dropouts that my (believed) ‘79 has. The key in my opinion though on the model year of the OPs bike is that his frame has water bottle bosses. Regardless of everything else, I don’t know of any literature pre 1980 that had a pk10 or similar model with bosses. That was included on this model starting in 1980.
09-26-18, 07:56 AM
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Appears identically equipped, component wise, as my 79 PKN10. My bottom bracket spindle was embossed with a "07 79" date. Suggest you clean, lube, adjust and ride it, then decide if you want to sell. They are a great C&V ride. Don
edit PKN10e brochure link: https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broch...ompetition.jpg
edit PKN10e brochure link: https://www.bikeboompeugeot.com/Broch...ompetition.jpg
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In the event you want to make one more stab at finding the owner, you can place a "bike found" ad on Craigslist and give a vague description of the bike and where it was found (blue bike found near 4th & Main). Ask for specifics to verify ownership. I've done that a couple of times when a bike seemed too nice to have been abandoned.
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09-26-18, 09:54 AM
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Those Peugeots will always be top 3 for me as far as paint and decals go
09-26-18, 11:38 AM
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1983 psv-10
I finally got around to putting together my 1983 PSV-10 that I bought as a frame with cranks, headset, brake calipers and FD back in 2010.
The cranks were Stronglight 104 with drilled chainrings. When I overhauled the BB I was surprised to find that it was Swiss metric with a LH threaded fixed cup. I was expecting British thread on a 1983 Peugeot. It was low quality Peugeot branded rather than Stronglight.
I used my "gauge" cups to make sure that the threads were 35mm x 1 not British. The cups and spindle were toast. Fortunately I had a couple of mismarked NOS Swiss fixed cups and put in a NOS Stronglight BB.
The original Peugeot spindle was 120mm wide rather than the standard Stronglight 118mm so I used a 120mm replacement. After assembly and several re-torquings of the crank arm bolts I figured out why they used a 120mm spindle. The Stronglight 104 crank arms are cast not forged like most previous model Stronglight cranks: 49, 57, 63, 93, 1st generation 99, 105, 106...
The square is cast in rather than broached and the aluminum is softer and seats onto the spindle further.
I updated the plastic Stronglight B10 headset to one of the current model A9 headsets with sealed cartridge ball bearings plus installed Stronglight retrofriction levers. Fortunately I had a set of Mavic Module-E wheels with low flange Normandy Competition Luxe hubs that were spec'd for this bike.
Finished. It rides and handles GREAT!
BTW @seamuis I don't recall ever seeing any French bikes after about 1975 that had straight gage Reynolds 531 tubing. 3 TUBES RENFORCES means only the 3 main tube tubes are butted Reynolds 531.
@stykthyn That saddle is grossly obscene! More so than the old mattress Troxel saddles of the mid 70's.
Also, just my opinion but for Karmic reasons, I'd make a concerted effort to see if you could find the owner in case it was stolen. You can find abandoned bikes around college campuses in June at the end of school year but not so much at the beginning of a semester.
I've found several stolen bikes over the years and it was a good feeling reuniting them with their owners.
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The cranks were Stronglight 104 with drilled chainrings. When I overhauled the BB I was surprised to find that it was Swiss metric with a LH threaded fixed cup. I was expecting British thread on a 1983 Peugeot. It was low quality Peugeot branded rather than Stronglight.
I used my "gauge" cups to make sure that the threads were 35mm x 1 not British. The cups and spindle were toast. Fortunately I had a couple of mismarked NOS Swiss fixed cups and put in a NOS Stronglight BB.
The original Peugeot spindle was 120mm wide rather than the standard Stronglight 118mm so I used a 120mm replacement. After assembly and several re-torquings of the crank arm bolts I figured out why they used a 120mm spindle. The Stronglight 104 crank arms are cast not forged like most previous model Stronglight cranks: 49, 57, 63, 93, 1st generation 99, 105, 106...
The square is cast in rather than broached and the aluminum is softer and seats onto the spindle further.
I updated the plastic Stronglight B10 headset to one of the current model A9 headsets with sealed cartridge ball bearings plus installed Stronglight retrofriction levers. Fortunately I had a set of Mavic Module-E wheels with low flange Normandy Competition Luxe hubs that were spec'd for this bike.
Finished. It rides and handles GREAT!
BTW @seamuis I don't recall ever seeing any French bikes after about 1975 that had straight gage Reynolds 531 tubing. 3 TUBES RENFORCES means only the 3 main tube tubes are butted Reynolds 531.
@stykthyn That saddle is grossly obscene! More so than the old mattress Troxel saddles of the mid 70's.
Also, just my opinion but for Karmic reasons, I'd make a concerted effort to see if you could find the owner in case it was stolen. You can find abandoned bikes around college campuses in June at the end of school year but not so much at the beginning of a semester.
I've found several stolen bikes over the years and it was a good feeling reuniting them with their owners.
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09-26-18, 02:19 PM
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I put a message out on the local fb groups. I'll keep it safe for a while. If no one steps forward I'll likely just take it in to the co-op and have them address the bottom bracket. I'll look for a period correct rear wheel and seat while I'm there. It's a shame to see so many bikes that have giant cruiser seats on them. I will never understand it.
11-08-18, 06:39 PM
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Couldn't get anyone to claim this machine so ive decided to keep it and make it my commuter. Had the shop go through the bottom bracket and wheel hubs. Swapped aero brakes up front and put a set of correct wheels i had in storage from a previous build. It rides so sweet. This is the single best friction shifting bike ive ever been on. It just falls into gear.
11-08-18, 08:10 PM
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Couldn't get anyone to claim this machine so ive decided to keep it and make it my commuter. Had the shop go through the bottom bracket and wheel hubs. Swapped aero brakes up front and put a set of correct wheels i had in storage from a previous build. It rides so sweet. This is the single best friction shifting bike ive ever been on. It just falls into gear.
