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Modern or otherwise available 1" threaded headset for Centurion Pro Tour 15

Old 05-16-20, 08:46 PM
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Modern or otherwise available 1" threaded headset for Centurion Pro Tour 15

Picked up an '83 Centurion Pro Tour 15 recently and want to source a new-ish headset, as this one was stripped of all parts before making its way to me. The fork requires a 27.0 crown race, so Chris King Gripnut is unfortunately out of the question. Or is it?

I don't like the look of Velo Orange's 27.0 offering for this particular build; also don't really want to go with a Tange headset. Am I missing any new or new/old stock 1" threaded JIS options? I've seen $$$$ Dura Ace 74xx series JIS headsets on eBay...
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What stack height do you need?
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Tange Levin Alloy Headsets are quite nice, Retrogression has NJS JIC headsets for $60.00 https://www.retro-gression.com/produ...13191305134141• 1" threaded

• stack height: 37.5mm (25.0mm upper, 12.5 lower)

• crown race: 26.4mm ISO or 27.0mm JIS

• ISO has a 30.2mm cup diameter; JIS is 30.0mm

• NJS certified

• color: anodized silver

• weight: 121g



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Originally Posted by ctak
Picked up an '83 Centurion Pro Tour 15 recently and want to source a new-ish headset, as this one was stripped of all parts before making its way to me. The fork requires a 27.0 crown race, so Chris King Gripnut is unfortunately out of the question. Or is it?

I don't like the look of Velo Orange's 27.0 offering for this particular build; also don't really want to go with a Tange headset. Am I missing any new or new/old stock 1" threaded JIS options? I've seen $$$$ Dura Ace 74xx series JIS headsets on eBay...
You can have the crown race milled to 26.4mm pretty easily. Going the other way... not so easy.

What's wrong with a Tange headset? Classic looks, cheap, will last until the next millenium....
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Not entirely sure, will check tomorrow
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
You can have the crown race milled to 26.4mm pretty easily. Going the other way... not so easy.

What's wrong with a Tange headset? Classic looks, cheap, will last until the next millenium....
Nothing wrong with Tange just not feeling it for this build. All black CK would be ideal, so might end up getting it milled... seems like the easiest way to modernize.
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Originally Posted by Nemosengineer
Tange Levin Alloy Headsets are quite nice, Retrogression has NJS JIC headsets for $60.00 https://www.retro-gression.com/produ...13191305134141• 1" threaded

• stack height: 37.5mm (25.0mm upper, 12.5 lower)

• crown race: 26.4mm ISO or 27.0mm JIS

• ISO has a 30.2mm cup diameter; JIS is 30.0mm

• NJS certified

• color: anodized silver

• weight: 121g



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Thanks for the link. These aren't bad and weigh about 75g less than the vintage Tange Falcon headset I was planning to put on another bike
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Saw a black Phil Wood threadless headset on Retro-gression after visiting the link above. A threaded version would sure look nice.

Just popped on an old Falcon I had lying around for the time being

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Originally Posted by Nemosengineer
Tange Levin Alloy Headsets are quite nice...

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Looks like it's closely modeled on the alloy Shimano 600 headset of old. You could do worse!
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Perhaps this one...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TANGE-LEVIN...oAAOSwaphamIrH

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I have a black FSA Duron headset like this one I removed from the Bertoni I bought last year. Looked a little too modern with the Nuovo Record.

It's kinda cool that the lower headtube cup revolves -- it doesn't use a normal (external) retainer of bearings. It rests on the crown race like one big bearing.

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
I have a black FSA Duron headset like this one I removed from the Bertoni I bought last year. Looked a little too modern with the Nuovo Record.

It's kinda cool that the lower headtube cup revolves -- it doesn't use a normal (external) retainer of bearings. It rests on the crown race like one big bearing.
interesting, would love to see detail pics. my first thought: poorman's Stronglight X12 which are nearly impossible to find



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Originally Posted by ctak
interesting, would love to see detail pics.
I'll pm you later today.
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Originally Posted by ctak
Saw a black Phil Wood threadless headset on Retro-gression after visiting the link above. A threaded version would sure look nice.

Just popped on an old Falcon I had lying around for the time being

Just my opinion, but a chrome/silver one looks better there than a black one would.
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I like the Ritchey Logic HS, they aren’t too pricey and seem like pretty good quality. Not sure about that crown race though.
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My '77 Pro Tour actually came with a Falcon originally.

A number of years back I bought an Origin8 that came with 26.4 and 27.0 split races. Used cartridge bearings. Not the most attractive part in the world, but super versatile and good to keep in the used parts bin.
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Innicycle headset adapter

In silver, with a polished VO stem
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I haven't had great luck with the Tange Levin. The VO Grand Cru headset, on the other hand... real nice.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Just my opinion, but a chrome/silver one looks better there than a black one would.
Was thinking the right black headset could look stellar with my black rolf wheels, but since I can't find either a Phil Wood threaded or Stronglight x12 in black, I suppose that silver Tange Levin NJS Alloy with 27.0 crown race might just do :-)
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Originally Posted by samkl
I haven't had great luck with the Tange Levin. The VO Grand Cru headset, on the other hand... real nice.
Don't like the look of the VO headset, looks too much like a basic FSA. Can one be too picky re: headset choice?
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Originally Posted by ctak
Was thinking the right black headset could look stellar with my black rolf wheels, but since I can't find either a Phil Wood threaded or Stronglight x12 in black, I suppose that silver Tange Levin NJS Alloy with 27.0 crown race might just do :-)
I just remembered that I have a damaged Miyata 912 frame with a black headset on it. it's at my office. I will check tomorrow. it might be something you can use.
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I was waiting to see this frame show up here. My resistance was weakening and I was glad when someone else grabbed it.
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Originally Posted by seypat
I just remembered that I have a damaged Miyata 912 frame with a black headset on it. it's at my office. I will check tomorrow. it might be something you can use.
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
I was waiting to see this frame show up here. My resistance was weakening and I was glad when someone else grabbed it.
Yea, found it on eBay completely stripped down. Advertised as an '84 but in actuality its an '83 (per the font and lack of Dynamo routing, though I'm getting it drilled). Lots of odds and ends to find in order to assemble the hodge podge touring rig I'm starting to get a clearer picture of
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