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Old 04-22-18, 10:08 AM
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Comfortable touring bike for loaded and unloaded rides?

New to touring and looking for feedback on a steel bike that is comfortable for unloaded rides. I hear that some bikes are a bit rough while riding unloaded. The 2 bikes I am looking at are the Marrakesh and Trek 520. Thanks!
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I find both of my touring bicycles are comfortable, both loaded and unloaded.

Both feel like station wagons carrying cargo when I am touring: stable and secure.

When I am riding around town carrying no load, neither feels like a racing bike, but both are responsive, steady, and fast enough.
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A friend of mine bought a Trek 520 because he did not want an aluminum frame, he wanted a steel frame for a better ride. And he lived in a small town, the only bike shop in town only sold Treks and he wanted to buy local. He was quite happy with his choice even though he never carried anything on the bike more than a lock and a few water bottles.
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Both are fine, work with the LBS and they will improve the out of the box fit, to be suitable for you.

Yea, the added strength that handles the weight carried so well , stiffness that is offering that benefit , wont go away when not carrying stuff.



I have a Trek Dealership, in my town, you have to get a 520 from one, but Salsa Marrakesh, can be ordered thru any shop with a QBP account..

NB; QBP only ships when your shop pays up front for it, Trek Corp. offers Dealers a rotating line of Credit...

so Having a 520 in stock is more likely ..







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I've found changing tires, or even air pressure in the same tires, can affect ride as well.
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I just rode my Marrakesh today. I’ve only ridden it a few times since I brought it home earlier this year, and have yet to ride it “loaded up.” I am finding it to be a nice solid comfy ride, and the rear axle is pulled forward with the alternator plates, so that makes it a shorter wheelbase for more responsive handling. The tires that come on it are a robust 700x42mm, I find them nice and comfy! I had a Surly Long Haul Trucker that I never liked riding unloaded, so far this rides more to my liking. I think moving the rear axle back for loaded touring will give a more stable ride, but for unloaded, having it forward makes it feel like a regular road bike , handling wise. I’ll find out how it does loaded next month, looking forward to that!

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My Surly Disc Trucker has the smoothest unloaded ride of any steel touring bike I've tried. I guess Truckers have stiff tubing but the longer wheelbase & relaxed angles more than make up for that, plus they allow wider tires than 520 & similar bikes.
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Originally Posted by DropBarFan
My Surly Disc Trucker has the smoothest unloaded ride of any steel touring bike I've tried. I guess Truckers have stiff tubing but the longer wheelbase & relaxed angles more than make up for that, plus they allow wider tires than 520 & similar bikes.
A rim-brake 26” trucker in my size just popped up on my local Craigslist. I am seriously considering putting in an offer.
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Originally Posted by rpg5
New to touring and looking for feedback on a steel bike that is comfortable for unloaded rides. I hear that some bikes are a bit rough while riding unloaded. The 2 bikes I am looking at are the Marrakesh and Trek 520. Thanks!
How rough the ride is has more to do with tire selection and pressure than anything else. So there is no need for a touring bike to be harsh when unloaded. So if you like the geometry okay the ride should be fine.

The geometry will be a good bit different than a race bike, but that is something that at least some folks like whether loaded or not. That is a different thing than whether the ride is harsh. If anything I think it is easier to get a soft ride on a touring bike because it probably has fatter tires that when run at lower pressure provide a cushy ride.

Given your concern, I'd avoid tires with super stiff sidewalls (like the Marathon Plus or similar). Something with nice flexible sidewalls contributes nicely to a better ride.

I tend to like a sportier feeling ride so I am more inclined to go with more sporty geometry. Again this is a different issue than whether the ride is harsh. I don't like the stable truck like feel of touring bikes so I have been touring on a road bike in recent years. Since I have been packing lighter and lighter until I am now in the ultralight category, that works for me.
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I know a guy who commutes quite a distance on his 520 multiple times a week, unloaded, as well as using it as his primary touring bike. He's got nothing but great things to say about it.

It is one I halfway keep an eye out for on my local CL.
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Originally Posted by Blaise88
A rim-brake 26” trucker in my size just popped up on my local Craigslist. I am seriously considering putting in an offer.
Good luck...heh, maybe you could put some Schwalbe Big Apple tires on it!
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Folks who are looking for extra ride comfort can equip touring bikes with a suspension seat post and/or suspension stem. I bought a Trucker in the larger of the 2 sizes that would fit; wish I had bought the smaller since a Thudbuster seat post would fit. However current 520 has a sloping top tube so I think a susp post would fit with no problem. I'm using a Redshift ShockStop susp stem that helps smooth out front bumps.
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Originally Posted by DropBarFan
Good luck...heh, maybe you could put some Schwalbe Big Apple tires on it!
Haha, the bike is built with Big Apples!
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