Planning a city bike build
02-22-12, 09:42 PM
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I called every bike shop I trust looking for a (W) hub, about a half-dozen of 'em. I found one with the old XRF5 on the shelf, and the others either couldn't get the (W) from their distributor at all, or it showed as being on back-order. UBS is saying they'll be available late spring sometime. I couldn't find a local or online source that had them available. I'll be waiting at least another week for my rims, if you know where I can get an X-RF5(W), I would really welcome any pointers.
02-22-12, 09:51 PM
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Thanks very much for the suggestion.
After sending the builder some detail photos of the axle and lock washers in the dropouts, we've decided to go this route. Vertical dropouts can be made to work, but they should be deeper than these. Still haven't decided whether to stick with the adjustable vertical dropout, or fixed horizontal dropout. I'll post some pics once the new parts are fabbed up.
After sending the builder some detail photos of the axle and lock washers in the dropouts, we've decided to go this route. Vertical dropouts can be made to work, but they should be deeper than these. Still haven't decided whether to stick with the adjustable vertical dropout, or fixed horizontal dropout. I'll post some pics once the new parts are fabbed up.
Came home to find my PD-A530 pedals waiting for me. Kinda ugly but the combo pedals will be nice and functional. I'll always like clipless best, but it'll be a bit of a relief to be able to just use street shoes for short trips & commuting.
02-22-12, 10:12 PM
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36h rims? I sent a PM regarding the hub and shifter.
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02-22-12, 11:07 PM
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I admit that I was ready to roll my eyes after the first couple of posts. I was wrong, this is pretty cool. I'm really looking forward to the finished product. Good luck!
- I didn't know about that halo coating until this thread. That is pretty amazing, definitely going on my wish list.
- I think there is a lot of hot air when it comes to the major differences in comfort between a 25 and a 32 tire. Just the same as when people say that wide tires roll poorly.
- I didn't know about that halo coating until this thread. That is pretty amazing, definitely going on my wish list.
- I think there is a lot of hot air when it comes to the major differences in comfort between a 25 and a 32 tire. Just the same as when people say that wide tires roll poorly.
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02-25-12, 11:48 AM
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02-25-12, 11:52 AM
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And it looks like those exact washers are now fitted to my bike. Dan's been conferring with me on what will & won't work for this build, and doing all of the real work., and it turns out that those washers work fine with the stock forged dropouts. Despite my best efforts under difficult circumstances to fab up the horizontal dropouts, the stock ones look about 100x better, so that's what we're going with. The main thing we're waiting on now is my special-order rims. I can't wait to have everything together and spiffed up for my inaugural ride!
02-25-12, 03:45 PM
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Thanks to the OP for bringing me on board for this project. Contrary to some opinions expressed, this frame is a great platform for this type of build. I've done a pretty fair number of gearhub conversions, and at this stage, I have every reason to expect that this one will turn out as good as any of them.
The frame is in great shape. The dropout alignment was spot on, as was the frame it'self.
I've left the original 126mm spacing as it is and added spacers to the hub to fit. This has the added benefit of bringing the flanges closer to center and reducing dish. I've also put serrated nuts on the axle to help keep the hub secured in the vertical drops.
As Syncrush said, the anti rotation washers I showed earlier are a perfect fit, and fully engage the dropouts.
I think you'll all appreciate the shift cable routing we're going with too. This build is going to be great.
The frame is in great shape. The dropout alignment was spot on, as was the frame it'self.
I've left the original 126mm spacing as it is and added spacers to the hub to fit. This has the added benefit of bringing the flanges closer to center and reducing dish. I've also put serrated nuts on the axle to help keep the hub secured in the vertical drops.
As Syncrush said, the anti rotation washers I showed earlier are a perfect fit, and fully engage the dropouts.
I think you'll all appreciate the shift cable routing we're going with too. This build is going to be great.
02-25-12, 04:47 PM
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02-28-12, 01:02 PM
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Looks like things are going together nicely, got some pics from Dan today:
I'm following this silver & black combo all over the bike, I like how it looks here with the crank and chain. Pedals are also black.
I don't care for threadless headsets on classic frames, so I went this way. Here's the simple quill stem with non-aero, non-ergo, non-fat handlebars and levers. Bar tape and cable housings will be black. Tektro levers incorporate quick-release, which is good because the Campy calipers don't.
Chic and shockingly light (to me) Campy rear caliper.
Dan has the chainline & frame spacing worked out perfectly. Looks like the rear wheel won't need much of a dish, which is nice.
I'm following this silver & black combo all over the bike, I like how it looks here with the crank and chain. Pedals are also black.
I don't care for threadless headsets on classic frames, so I went this way. Here's the simple quill stem with non-aero, non-ergo, non-fat handlebars and levers. Bar tape and cable housings will be black. Tektro levers incorporate quick-release, which is good because the Campy calipers don't.
Chic and shockingly light (to me) Campy rear caliper.
Dan has the chainline & frame spacing worked out perfectly. Looks like the rear wheel won't need much of a dish, which is nice.
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02-28-12, 01:04 PM
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And a few more:
Teaser of the shift cable routing.
Campy caliper looks at home on that chrome Gios fork with a Campy headset as a neighbor. I must really be drinking the Kool-Aid now because I've gone from being disappointed that there's no quick-release to thinking that a QR on a caliper looks ugly. sigh... I'm such a ho.
Overall shot, starting to look like a bike!
Here you can see that the no-turn washer is engaging nicely in the vertical dropouts. Also, chain tension looks decent with the dropouts adjusted all the way forward, which is a good starting point.
I went with an SA front hub to match the rear hub & crankset.
Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, 700c/25. What can I say? I know that they're heavy, but so am I and I hate fixing flats. Also, I've had mixed luck with Conti Gatorskins and I think that the grey sidewall here will look very good with the graphite/halo Deep V rims.
Really down to waiting for the rims & the hubbub now...
Teaser of the shift cable routing.
Campy caliper looks at home on that chrome Gios fork with a Campy headset as a neighbor. I must really be drinking the Kool-Aid now because I've gone from being disappointed that there's no quick-release to thinking that a QR on a caliper looks ugly. sigh... I'm such a ho.
Overall shot, starting to look like a bike!
Here you can see that the no-turn washer is engaging nicely in the vertical dropouts. Also, chain tension looks decent with the dropouts adjusted all the way forward, which is a good starting point.
I went with an SA front hub to match the rear hub & crankset.
Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, 700c/25. What can I say? I know that they're heavy, but so am I and I hate fixing flats. Also, I've had mixed luck with Conti Gatorskins and I think that the grey sidewall here will look very good with the graphite/halo Deep V rims.
Really down to waiting for the rims & the hubbub now...
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02-28-12, 01:21 PM
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When was the Classic Trigger Shifter out of production?
02-28-12, 02:42 PM
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02-29-12, 01:59 AM
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Looking very good, unique little project, this.
02-29-12, 07:43 AM
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Thanks folks.
I'm getting really stoked. The wait for the rims and the hubbub are killing me - no way to know when either will arrive.
In the meantime I'm doing spin classes 2-3x week to try to get a bit into shape so I'll be ready to put some miles on as soon as this sucker is ready to roll. The stationary bikes are boring as hell, but at least I don't get dropped!
I'm already planning updates to be done over next winter... I'll probably want to do fenders, and little touches like black chainring bolts. The main thing I'm thinking of, though, is a custom travel agent style of adapter to let me shift (either the current hub or an upgrade to the wide-range hub) with a nice modern ergo/STI brifter.
I'm getting really stoked. The wait for the rims and the hubbub are killing me - no way to know when either will arrive.
In the meantime I'm doing spin classes 2-3x week to try to get a bit into shape so I'll be ready to put some miles on as soon as this sucker is ready to roll. The stationary bikes are boring as hell, but at least I don't get dropped!
I'm already planning updates to be done over next winter... I'll probably want to do fenders, and little touches like black chainring bolts. The main thing I'm thinking of, though, is a custom travel agent style of adapter to let me shift (either the current hub or an upgrade to the wide-range hub) with a nice modern ergo/STI brifter.
02-29-12, 09:43 AM
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True, but I'm stuck with the hubbub because the new SA hubs - the (W) wide-range versions - are effectively not available. As noted earlier in the thread, I'm using the older version with a 225% range instead of the new (W) version with 256% range, and the older hubs have a different shifter pull than the new ones. So I'm stuck with the crappy plastic twist shifter.
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02-29-12, 10:08 AM
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02-29-12, 11:25 AM
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That's an excellent idea, thanks for that and for the pointers on shifters. I have the twist-grip shifter in hand and the hubbub should arrive any day now so I'm going to stick with that for the first phase of this build.
02-29-12, 01:01 PM
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I put a put a flashing LED in the hole, not that I think the threads need protection, but because it gives a finished look. It's a Simplex, so there are no threads anyway. The battery is behind the light and you switch it by turning it. It flashes red and green. I had fun with it for a while, but I've converted it back to gears.
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02-29-12, 07:32 PM
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Today's deliveries...
A hubbub adapter to let me mount that ugly twist shifter at the end of my otherwise-nice drop bars, and some fancy Cinelli cable guides: basically grommets for where the rear brake cable enters and leaves the top tube.
I thought the frame was red when I ordered the guides, and now I have a feeling that the red guides are gonna look bad against the metallic orange frame. If it bothers me, I'll replace 'em with black later.
COME ON RIMS!!!
A hubbub adapter to let me mount that ugly twist shifter at the end of my otherwise-nice drop bars, and some fancy Cinelli cable guides: basically grommets for where the rear brake cable enters and leaves the top tube.
I thought the frame was red when I ordered the guides, and now I have a feeling that the red guides are gonna look bad against the metallic orange frame. If it bothers me, I'll replace 'em with black later.
COME ON RIMS!!!
03-01-12, 06:55 AM
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https://smartbikeparts.com/search_details.php?itm=HU2236
https://www.bikeman.com/HU2236.html
No connection with these vendors.
03-01-12, 04:37 PM
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I dunno. They show 'in-stock':
https://smartbikeparts.com/search_details.php?itm=HU2236
https://www.bikeman.com/HU2236.html
No connection with these vendors.
https://smartbikeparts.com/search_details.php?itm=HU2236
https://www.bikeman.com/HU2236.html
No connection with these vendors.
03-01-12, 04:59 PM
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You don't have an account with QBP?
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03-01-12, 09:39 PM
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Soma has the low flange SRF5(W). No connection, but they're the only place I know in N.A. that stocks the low flange.
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