Abu Mahendra

It doesn't take a seasoned tourer, or drivetrain guru to see that 1.7kg and $1,265 is a bit much, when a triple crank will give you a similar range for less money, weight, complexity and field serviceability. No need for a degree in marketing or consumer psychology to see that if the thing were manufactured in Taiwan and sold for half the price, it would be overlooked by many of its devotees because it would lack the prestige and cachet of Made-in-Europe.

willibrord

Bicycle tourists mock others for being sucked into the latest bicycle fad, a 12 speed rear cassette, while spending four times the amount on the heavy, clunky, faddish, German made monstrosity. People are weird.

fietsbob

this is a gear thread not a touring thread, (but for a few showing off their pictures, from the trip)




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fietsbob

a picture by someone going somewhere..

Abu Mahendra

Seeing your predilection for high-priced, Made-in-Germany bling, did you use a Leica camera or Zeiss lens to take that image too?

DropBarFan

Sorry for late reply here. I haven't tried Rohloff...A) it is expensive & B) my bikes don't have split dropout to allow belt drive which I see as the ideal partner. However as Rohloff became more popular I thought Shimano might produce something competitive but that seems increasingly unlikely.

Happy Feet

The hyperbole over IGH's vs cassettes is a bit much. They are just different tools to do a job and choice depends on a lot of factors. They're just bicycles.

I don't jones for a 12speed as I don't mind bigger jumps having spent so much time on 2x5 ten speeds but am quite enamored of late with 1x wide range cassettes for simple builds.

My Norco is still too new to replace but if I were to build another mixed surface bike with wider tire clearance I could easily go for a 10speed 1x 11/46 drivetrain.

Trevtassie

Like Sunrace for example... I bought an 11-50 11 speed for $80 works fine with my standard XT derailleur.
My partner has a 9 speed triple. 20-30-40, 11-40 on the rear... 700 or so percent range. Me, I'm a glutton for punishment, I have a Rohloff and an ATS speed drive, because I cracked the ****s with the limited range of the Rohloff. Gets me a touch over 800%, I need to low gears to heave all the extra metal up hill, and the high gears to overcome the extra freewheeling friction the Rohloff gives going downhill.

Trevtassie

Like Sunrace for example... I bought an 11-50 11 speed for $80 works fine with my standard XT derailleur.
My partner has a 9 speed triple. 20-30-40, 11-40 on the rear... 700 or so percent range. The whole lot came in under $200 with a Wippermann Conex chain. Me, I'm a glutton for punishment, I have a Rohloff and an ATS speed drive, because I cracked the ****s with the limited range of the Rohloff. Gets me a touch over 800%, I need to low gears to heave all the extra metal up hill, and the high gears to overcome the extra freewheeling friction the Rohloff gives going downhill.

pdlamb

I've been riding 9 speed with a triple crank for ... 19 years now, IIRC (my memory isn't quite that good).

I've been thinking about buying one more, really nice, bike with a 3x9 drive train for a couple years. This may be the impetus I need to pick up the phone and place the order!

GamblerGORD53

DeFAILeurs are more reliable?? LOL hahahahahah
Some stories on CGOAB >> One BIG guy on a custom LHT, went thru 4 hubs> broken pawl springs, and 2 or 3 rims in 6,500 miles. A guy had a broken hanger/ derailler/ spokes in the middle B.C., needed a 300 mile truck ride. A guy got caught in a slush storm and had the use of ONE gear, the rest iced up. LOL . A guy took a cheaper MTB bike to the Himalayas and broke 4 spokes the first couple days.
Myself, I went to the MEC LBS for a visit. The older EXPERIENCED mech was working on a new not cheap defailleur. It was jumping from 5 to 6. He adjusted, took the chain apart, took the hanger off TWICE, and still it wouldn't work. I got tired watching after 20 minutes.
My SA XL-RD 5w has all my speed and distance records. LOL

My Rohloff14 has 15,600 troublefree miles, with 8,100 on tour at 120 lbs + me at 175. It gets BETTER with age, for how long I have to see, in 5 or 10 years likely. I took spares and oil, but not necessary for 4,000 miles. Tools and spares are a weight penalty besides the hub. But efficiency and no idiotic double shifting makes up for it, IMO. I do choose pushing over riding under 4 mph. I have yet to replace or adjust my shifter cables. I might have a bad shift every 1000 miles. I shift 4 gears at once basically every hill. Crashing and baggage handlers have NO possibility of stopping a Rohloff14, I have done both. I'm not sure why my 1/8" chains don't last 3,000 miles, even with a chaincase.
Defailleurs?? Pffft I sold my last one 2 years ago, NEVER again.