I Got a New Bike!
12-08-18, 09:45 AM
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12-08-18, 10:16 AM
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ok, so what you do is great for your situation. It's cool to hear the different setups people use to commute.
declaring an entire setup as useless is what creates disagreement because it isnt useless, its just not ideal for you.
if I had a 15mi bike ride, to a 20min ferry ride, to a 5min bike ride unto work- my back would be a swesty mess with a backpack so that wouldnt be ideal for me. Perhaps it would work for someone who doesn't sweat as much.
options allow more people to commute in the way they like the most. That doesnt mean other ways are useless.
declaring an entire setup as useless is what creates disagreement because it isnt useless, its just not ideal for you.
if I had a 15mi bike ride, to a 20min ferry ride, to a 5min bike ride unto work- my back would be a swesty mess with a backpack so that wouldnt be ideal for me. Perhaps it would work for someone who doesn't sweat as much.
options allow more people to commute in the way they like the most. That doesnt mean other ways are useless.
12-08-18, 10:18 AM
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You're free to count the number of backpacks versus other means of carrying things including panniers. I did catch a briefcase and about 100 backpacks in those 3 minutes.
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12-08-18, 10:35 AM
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Another example with timing
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12-08-18, 01:40 PM
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I'll likely have to put the rack back on in the next few days: I can haul 3x+ as much stuff, easily with.
12-08-18, 02:00 PM
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Why explain
You have no reason to explain anything to anybody, about what and how you ride. If it works for you keep working it.
12-08-18, 03:28 PM
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12-08-18, 04:30 PM
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The best solution is to have multiple bikes...One bike without racks and panniers for commuting and recreational riding and another bike set up for hauling large loads of groceries.
12-08-18, 05:31 PM
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12-08-18, 06:17 PM
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More is better!
I cannot disagree with that statement. I have 4: fast, racy titanium; older steel road that I have sort of hybridyzed (my jump on and ride bike); Gravel/endurance carbon fiber and a commute/errand set up with racks and panniers, heavy duty wheels and wide tires. I use and like riding all of them.
12-08-18, 09:16 PM
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It's 1.76 lbs and yes, the weight is noticeable. Whether it's aluminum or not has no bearing. I didn't expect this to be such a great bike: I bought it strictly as a winter/beater/utility/grocery hauler. Just the weight alone of the rear rack was enough to slow down handling enough to make the bike noticeably less fun to ride. It immediately went from very fun to not fun at all. Putting the bag, panniers, lock and cable and then other stuff I hauled put it into a different category altogether.
I'll likely have to put the rack back on in the next few days: I can haul 3x+ as much stuff, easily with.
I'll likely have to put the rack back on in the next few days: I can haul 3x+ as much stuff, easily with.
the 1.5# was referring to my rack, I didn't know what yours weighs. I personally don't notice a rack slowing down handling, but to each their own.
enjoy it however you want to ride.
12-09-18, 07:59 AM
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Bike-train-bike commute to my satellite office in another state with panniers. Sure beats my messenger bag on my back when it's 90F and/or humid. And I have enough room for dinner fixings should I decide to stop at the market on the way home.
Bike-train-bike commute to my satellite office in another state with panniers. Sure beats my messenger bag on my back when it's 90F and/or humid. And I have enough room for dinner fixings should I decide to stop at the market on the way home.
12-09-18, 11:44 AM
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One of my bikes is a proper workhorse. It carries my kid, and shopping, and occasionally a trailer. Here it is doing the annual tip-run..
But it's not for the BMX track. Or a quick sprint over the pub or to a mate's house. Or for a morning workout. I have other bikes for those.
Experiment. Try different things. Ride different things.
But it's not for the BMX track. Or a quick sprint over the pub or to a mate's house. Or for a morning workout. I have other bikes for those.
Experiment. Try different things. Ride different things.
12-09-18, 11:25 PM
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Is there a 'quick release' rear rack that can carry as much as a standard rack, up to say, 50 lbs (or close to it)? The quick release rack I found only carries 25 lbs max. I wouldn't have a lot of confidence in it.
12-10-18, 01:36 AM
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Note the two cyclists getting on at 470s or 7m50s (it's very rude to wear a backpack on the tube itself, it should be handheld to save space, but on the shoulders it goes once off the tube.)
12-10-18, 01:45 AM
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Some fold...and I disagree anyway, baskets/panniers are something I want on most of my bikes.
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12-10-18, 01:48 AM
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12-10-18, 02:27 AM
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We'll if you don't need free hands, that I can see how it works. But, I'm going up down between 10-20 flights are stairs / escalators and walking about 1mi when I cross London (and it's jammed with people), thus a backpack makes sense as I have shown in the videos. If you don't utilise major urban facilities/areas, I get your argument.
12-10-18, 02:33 AM
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Why, would anyone freak out seeing a naked person? Americans do have this weird acceptance/non acceptance of violence/nudity that's unlike anywhere else in the world.
Even when I lived in Münich, they would be naked people in the city quite often and it's nice that the river still flows through downtown
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...ked-Zones.html
Even when I lived in Münich, they would be naked people in the city quite often and it's nice that the river still flows through downtown
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...ked-Zones.html
12-10-18, 09:12 AM
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Different strokes... I much prefer carrying weight on my bike rather than on my back. Lived in Los Angeles with a family of four in the 1970's, sans car, and commuted to work, school, and shopping on a PX10 with a rear rack. I almost always had a backpack, but usually carried it on the rack. Two grocery sacks (no plastic then) would fit nicely on the rack. More than that would require the panniers. I believe that weight is best carried low on a bike - lower center of gravity. And it only took a few minutes to remove the rack for some fast fun. Although I rarely did so, as it affected handling very, very little. In fact, I'd guess bike performance would be better with a heavy load on a rack than on your back.
12-10-18, 09:26 AM
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12-10-18, 09:48 AM
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12-10-18, 11:40 AM
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I think anyone who lives in an urban area would go backpack. Anyone living in the woods and having a 25 mile RT commute to work in a metro might have an argument for a pannier, but once something needs to be carried by hand or as an uncomfortable backpack it's out for me as that degrades daily life too much.
If you're in a hot, humid climate, a backpack can be a nightmare even on a short ride Also tends to mess up anything breakable or bruisable, so very limited grocery use IME. I've managed to carry eggs in a pannier. I would never do that in a backpack.
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Why, would anyone freak out seeing a naked person? Americans do have this weird acceptance/non acceptance of violence/nudity that's unlike anywhere else in the world.
Even when I lived in Münich, they would be naked people in the city quite often and it's nice that the river still flows through downtown
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...ked-Zones.html
Even when I lived in Münich, they would be naked people in the city quite often and it's nice that the river still flows through downtown
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...ked-Zones.html
OTOH, part of that bad reaction would probably result in an immediate arrest, so I may have to reconsider the order of my list of reasons.