Just how big is the Miyata Cult?
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Agreed. I also think that '85/'86 was the high point of desirable Miyatas. Before index shifting (since I'm a friction-barcon fan), before through-toptube cable routing (weak as evidenced in cracking around that hole, and why have an opening on the top of the tube to let rainwater into your frame???), and Miyata's triple-butted CrMo tubing goodness.
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1984 Miyata 1000
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1984 Miyata 1000 Grand Touring
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The letter that begins the serial number indicates the year of Miyata manufacture. My ‘79 912 starts with “H” same for all Miyatas made that year. So “M” would indicate a 1984 manufacture.
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The Pro, Team and 912 used triple-butted splined tubing before it worked its way down the line. Not sure when splined tubing was introduced in those models since the vintage Miyata catalog site still appears to be down... I believe the 712 went splined in '87 (along with that blasted through-toptube cable routing, and possibly index shifting...) Again, that makes me glad I have an '86 710!
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I just landed this gorgeous 1989 Miyata 312. This has to be the cleanest bike I have found so far. Like new condition. The 312 has the STB tubing, but only the downtube is splined on the 312 according to the catalog.
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The Pro, Team and 912 used triple-butted splined tubing before it worked its way down the line. Not sure when splined tubing was introduced in those models since the vintage Miyata catalog site still appears to be down... I believe the 712 went splined in '87 (along with that blasted through-toptube cable routing, and possibly index shifting...) Again, that makes me glad I have an '86 710!
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Here’s a pretty solid deal on one near Toledo Ohio
https://toledo.craigslist.org/spo/d/...682590835.html
60cm, big but not huge.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/spo/d/...682590835.html
60cm, big but not huge.
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Here’s a pretty solid deal on one near Toledo Ohio
https://toledo.craigslist.org/spo/d/...682590835.html
60cm, big but not huge.
https://toledo.craigslist.org/spo/d/...682590835.html
60cm, big but not huge.
I wish that one was closer to me! Here is an odd ad and a rather crazy price, but it is for a Miyata I never knew about, CT3000. https://muncie.craigslist.org/bik/d/...656832951.html
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its big
agreed-- I collect Miyatas in addition to high-end Italian racing frames. They make excellent builders.
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I wish that one was closer to me! Here is an odd ad and a rather crazy price, but it is for a Miyata I never knew about, CT3000. https://muncie.craigslist.org/bik/d/...656832951.html
Its freakishly smooth. Mine still has 19mm tires on it, and still it just gliiides. That carbon must just damp out any vibration or chatter. It’s a cool frame. Glued and screwed but the literature talks about insulating the carbon fiber from both the aluminum tubes and lugs, to prevent electrolysis corrosion. I’ve had zero problems with mine.
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Look what I found today! This may be the most fun bike I have added to my collection yet. 1989 Triple-Cross with a Scott AT-4 Pro to double down on the BioPace crank's 90's rhythm.
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There is some romanticism involved around certain vintage things that have evoked prolonged lore I've noticed. I wouldn't turn away a Miyata 1000 when it comes calling but I would choose a modern high quality touring bike over it given the choice.
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Yeah, but those Triple Crosses sell for like $200-250. While the sky's the limit for those damned 1000's. I figure there's no way they could ever live up to the hype, though I'm sure they're "pretty nice" and all.
If I can get the same bike or almost the same bike for $200, I might be tempted to try one out.
If I can get the same bike or almost the same bike for $200, I might be tempted to try one out.
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I have the same Triple-Cross, and it's a fantastic ride. Pretty sure the brakes are upgraded on that one.
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How would the modern bike be better?
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I think the famous grand tourers of the early to mid 80s placed the premium on lightweight tubing that was strong enough to be used as a tourer. Based on my owning a 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP, a 1985 Trek 620, a 1985 Trek 720 and a 1990 Miyata 10000LT- the Miyata is a much more "stout" bike. With that extra weight, it's also a much more "stable" and "grounded" bike- it doesn't have the "give" that the other lighter bikes have. It's a different ride- I think it would be a much more reassuring with a load going downhill.
I think "touring" bikes of today (like the Surly LHT) have more in common with a circa 1990 Miyata 1000LT than a 1985 Trek 720. I think the newer bike is going to have more room and clearance for wider tires. However, generally speaking- the modern bikes are more spartan and less majestic than the bikes of the 80s and early 90s.
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How would a modern bike be better?
Ummm, I am going to stay far away from going down that road in this thread. I would be all over a Miyata 1000 if it were my size and local, make no mistake.
Ummm, I am going to stay far away from going down that road in this thread. I would be all over a Miyata 1000 if it were my size and local, make no mistake.