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Old 07-05-18, 01:58 PM
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Miyata 1400


I took the miyata 1400 out for a 4th of july spin
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I just pulled one out of the landfill today. Was a nice bike in it's day.



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I almost nabbed one from Craigslist recently- someone beat me to the punch, sadly!
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
Agreed. I also think that '85/'86 was the high point of desirable Miyatas. Before index shifting (since I'm a friction-barcon fan), before through-toptube cable routing (weak as evidenced in cracking around that hole, and why have an opening on the top of the tube to let rainwater into your frame???), and Miyata's triple-butted CrMo tubing goodness.
I'm quoting this because I think it is the gospel. It's even possible that that year range is the peak for steel road bikes. Although, I don't really know what I'm talking about.
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Originally Posted by Sedgemop
I'm quoting this because I think it is the gospel. It's even possible that that year range is the peak for steel road bikes. Although, I don't really know what I'm talking about.
When did Miyata spline their tubes? That, to me, is their peak.
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1984 Miyata 1000

I recently acquired this beauty in pristine condition. I believe that it’s an early model 1984 because of the front & rear racks and the first model Shimano XT front derailleur pre deer head.

1984 Miyata 1000 Grand Touring
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I recently acquired this beauty in pristine condition. I believe that it’s an early model 1984 because of the front & rear racks and the first model Shimano XT front derailleur pre deer head.

1984 Miyata 1000 Grand Touring

That is certainly a beautiful 1000!

The letter that begins the serial number indicates the year of Miyata manufacture. My ‘79 912 starts with “H” same for all Miyatas made that year. So “M” would indicate a 1984 manufacture.

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Originally Posted by romperrr
When did Miyata spline their tubes? That, to me, is their peak.
The Pro, Team and 912 used triple-butted splined tubing before it worked its way down the line. Not sure when splined tubing was introduced in those models since the vintage Miyata catalog site still appears to be down... I believe the 712 went splined in '87 (along with that blasted through-toptube cable routing, and possibly index shifting...) Again, that makes me glad I have an '86 710!
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I just landed this gorgeous 1989 Miyata 312. This has to be the cleanest bike I have found so far. Like new condition. The 312 has the STB tubing, but only the downtube is splined on the 312 according to the catalog.


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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
The Pro, Team and 912 used triple-butted splined tubing before it worked its way down the line. Not sure when splined tubing was introduced in those models since the vintage Miyata catalog site still appears to be down... I believe the 712 went splined in '87 (along with that blasted through-toptube cable routing, and possibly index shifting...) Again, that makes me glad I have an '86 710!
‘86 was the first year for splined 912, don’t know about the racing models.
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Here’s a pretty solid deal on one near Toledo Ohio

https://toledo.craigslist.org/spo/d/...682590835.html

60cm, big but not huge.
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Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly
Here’s a pretty solid deal on one near Toledo Ohio

https://toledo.craigslist.org/spo/d/...682590835.html

60cm, big but not huge.

I wish that one was closer to me! Here is an odd ad and a rather crazy price, but it is for a Miyata I never knew about, CT3000. https://muncie.craigslist.org/bik/d/...656832951.html
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its big

agreed-- I collect Miyatas in addition to high-end Italian racing frames. They make excellent builders.
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Originally Posted by casanewt
I wish that one was closer to me! Here is an odd ad and a rather crazy price, but it is for a Miyata I never knew about, CT3000. https://muncie.craigslist.org/bik/d/...656832951.html
I have one! It’s a one year model, aluminum fork and stays, carbon wrapped aluminum triangle. It’s lighter than the steel Miyata’s, but heavier than a Cannondale Crit of that era.

Its freakishly smooth. Mine still has 19mm tires on it, and still it just gliiides. That carbon must just damp out any vibration or chatter. It’s a cool frame. Glued and screwed but the literature talks about insulating the carbon fiber from both the aluminum tubes and lugs, to prevent electrolysis corrosion. I’ve had zero problems with mine.
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Look what I found today! This may be the most fun bike I have added to my collection yet. 1989 Triple-Cross with a Scott AT-4 Pro to double down on the BioPace crank's 90's rhythm.




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Nice! How do those compare to the Mitaya touring bikes like the 1000? Geometry looks similar.
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There is some romanticism involved around certain vintage things that have evoked prolonged lore I've noticed. I wouldn't turn away a Miyata 1000 when it comes calling but I would choose a modern high quality touring bike over it given the choice.
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Yeah, but those Triple Crosses sell for like $200-250. While the sky's the limit for those damned 1000's. I figure there's no way they could ever live up to the hype, though I'm sure they're "pretty nice" and all.

If I can get the same bike or almost the same bike for $200, I might be tempted to try one out.
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I have the same Triple-Cross, and it's a fantastic ride. Pretty sure the brakes are upgraded on that one.
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There is some romanticism involved around certain vintage things that have evoked prolonged lore I've noticed. I wouldn't turn away a Miyata 1000 when it comes calling but I would choose a modern high quality touring bike over it given the choice.
How would the modern bike be better?
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Originally Posted by Colnago Mixte
Nice! How do those compare to the Mitaya touring bikes like the 1000? Geometry looks similar.
Similar, but wheelbase is not as long and a few other differences, I'm sure this is where Miyata had the huge advantage of making their own tubing and frames and could build exactly what they wanted. Heathstroke: My New Old Bike 1989 Vintage Touring Steel
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I am pleased to announce I've just joined the cult.
Does anyone know offhand the clamp diameter of these stems? I'm considering keeping it.
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I am pleased to announce I've just joined the cult.
Does anyone know offhand the clamp diameter of these stems? I'm considering keeping it.

Nice! I am really enjoying my Triple-Cross I just found. I installed an older Blackburn rack from my GT Bravado.

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Originally Posted by prairiepedaler
There is some romanticism involved around certain vintage things that have evoked prolonged lore I've noticed. I wouldn't turn away a Miyata 1000 when it comes calling but I would choose a modern high quality touring bike over it given the choice.
Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly


How would the modern bike be better?
I think there's an element of truth to that.

I think the famous grand tourers of the early to mid 80s placed the premium on lightweight tubing that was strong enough to be used as a tourer. Based on my owning a 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP, a 1985 Trek 620, a 1985 Trek 720 and a 1990 Miyata 10000LT- the Miyata is a much more "stout" bike. With that extra weight, it's also a much more "stable" and "grounded" bike- it doesn't have the "give" that the other lighter bikes have. It's a different ride- I think it would be a much more reassuring with a load going downhill.

I think "touring" bikes of today (like the Surly LHT) have more in common with a circa 1990 Miyata 1000LT than a 1985 Trek 720. I think the newer bike is going to have more room and clearance for wider tires. However, generally speaking- the modern bikes are more spartan and less majestic than the bikes of the 80s and early 90s.
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How would a modern bike be better?

Ummm, I am going to stay far away from going down that road in this thread. I would be all over a Miyata 1000 if it were my size and local, make no mistake.
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