Unscrewing Cassette on a 'non-quick-release' wheel
07-05-14, 01:55 PM
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 32
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Unscrewing Cassette on a 'non-quick-release' wheel
Hi,
I need to replace a few spokes on a rear wheel which still has the traditional axle with nuts on each end, ie without quick release. Not sure as to what those are referred these days.
In order to remove the cassette, do I need to remove the axle, cones etc? My neighbor - who used to have a bike shop - found that really strange when I briefly described it. But the tools I have to remove the cassette (https://www.racespec.co.uk/acatalog/pro_cassett600.jpg) mean there needs to be a hole in the middle.
I assume I just need a different tool if I want to avoid removing the axle
Is there something easy I am not seeing? Or am I right in assuming my neighbor is used to using a different tool.
Thanks a lot,
Ahil
I need to replace a few spokes on a rear wheel which still has the traditional axle with nuts on each end, ie without quick release. Not sure as to what those are referred these days.
In order to remove the cassette, do I need to remove the axle, cones etc? My neighbor - who used to have a bike shop - found that really strange when I briefly described it. But the tools I have to remove the cassette (https://www.racespec.co.uk/acatalog/pro_cassett600.jpg) mean there needs to be a hole in the middle.
I assume I just need a different tool if I want to avoid removing the axle
Is there something easy I am not seeing? Or am I right in assuming my neighbor is used to using a different tool.
Thanks a lot,
Ahil
07-05-14, 02:49 PM
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,688
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1074 Post(s)
Liked 295 Times
in
222 Posts
Usually nutted axle means freewheel, which is another beast entirely when compared with freehubs and cassettes. The freewheel puller I have will happily fit over the axle, while the cassette tool won't reach far enough to unscrew a cassette lockring on a nutted axle.
07-05-14, 02:57 PM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,968
Bikes: '09 Trek 2.1 * '75 Sekine * 2010 Raleigh Talus 8.0 * '90 Giant Mtb * Raleigh M20 * Fuji Nevada mtb
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yes, sounds like freewheel. Check the inner ring for mfg and model then post here, or even a picture. The freewheel tools like like you picture, but a hole not a pin, and will fit over the axel, nuts and all. Actually the freewheel probably has to be removed before the axle can be pulled. We need a litte more info.
__________________
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
07-05-14, 05:16 PM
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1572 Post(s)
Liked 643 Times
in
364 Posts
Yes, sounds like freewheel. Check the inner ring for mfg and model then post here, or even a picture. The freewheel tools like like you picture, but a hole not a pin, and will fit over the axel, nuts and all. Actually the freewheel probably has to be removed before the axle can be pulled. We need a litte more info.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
07-05-14, 06:33 PM
#5
Really Old Senior Member
It's a MOOT Point, since you need a tool without the pin if you don't want to remove the axle.
Doesn't matter if it's a free wheel or cassette.
However, if you have a Uniglide hub you'll need 2 chain whips.
Doesn't matter if it's a free wheel or cassette.
However, if you have a Uniglide hub you'll need 2 chain whips.
07-05-14, 06:35 PM
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca
Posts: 6,681
Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 86 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
whether or not a hub is a freewheel hub or freehub/cassette hub is not dependent in any way on whether or not the axle is hollow. i would determine what kind it is first. a pic might help.
07-05-14, 06:40 PM
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,624
Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1324 Post(s)
Liked 927 Times
in
640 Posts
A picture would let us tell the OP exactly what's needed to remove the gears in back.
Cheers from Miele Man
07-05-14, 10:36 PM
#9
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,835
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 802 Post(s)
Liked 703 Times
in
376 Posts
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
07-05-14, 10:56 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,783
Bikes: Bianchi San Mateo and a few others
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
9 Posts
Assuming the original poster has a freewheel, that FR-1.2 should be exactly what he needs, though.
07-06-14, 02:25 AM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 3,783
Bikes: Bianchi San Mateo and a few others
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times
in
9 Posts
Yep, that's a Shimano freewheel. The Park Tool FR-1.2 Jeff Wills mentioned above would take it off without having to disassemble anything else.
07-06-14, 03:12 AM
#15
Senior Member
Be aware that you are going to have to use some muscle or a cheater bar to undo the freewheel if it has been on there for a while. The freewheel tightens with every pedal stroke as it is ridden. It will be tight.
What I try to do is to ensure the tyre is on the wheel and properly inflated. Then I place the wheel vertically and at right angles to a wall (as though you were wheeling the tyre straight into the wall) to keep it from moving as you apply force to the tool. Preferably, undo the freewheel so the tool is rotating towards the wall.
What I try to do is to ensure the tyre is on the wheel and properly inflated. Then I place the wheel vertically and at right angles to a wall (as though you were wheeling the tyre straight into the wall) to keep it from moving as you apply force to the tool. Preferably, undo the freewheel so the tool is rotating towards the wall.
07-06-14, 10:10 AM
#16
Really Old Senior Member
07-06-14, 02:36 PM
#17
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,835
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 802 Post(s)
Liked 703 Times
in
376 Posts
Six Hyperglide cogs is a giveaway. Also, the large diameter lockring outside the small cog and the 5 brown plus one black cogs are hallmarks of newer Shimano 6-speed freewheels.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
