Why did seatpost sizes take so long to begin to standardize?
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Why did seatpost sizes take so long to begin to standardize?
Ripping into a new project, it dawned on me that I finally have two bikes with the same size seatpost for the first time in my life. It seems that the industry has more or less settled on four or five or so "standard" size seatposts, but I am curious why this took so long? Looking through parts websites, there are literally dozens of diameter options available, even individual models of seatposts it isn't unusual to see a dozen or more sizes.
Did this have to do with the tubesets used by the manufacturers? Is it just something that few upgrade, so there was no reason to? It seems that things like stem size, dropout width, handlebar clamp all rapidly standardized decades back, what is unique about the seatpost that it didn't follow that trend?
Did this have to do with the tubesets used by the manufacturers? Is it just something that few upgrade, so there was no reason to? It seems that things like stem size, dropout width, handlebar clamp all rapidly standardized decades back, what is unique about the seatpost that it didn't follow that trend?
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Good question. I have a 70's bike built from 531 with a 26.4mm seat post. It was an absolute nightmare trying to find a half decent seat post for that. I'm not sure what the Brompton is - it doesn't really matter for that - but all the other bikes are 27.2, thank goodness.
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Based on my recent experience getting the correct seatpost for my Bianchi Sprint 76, this same question interests me. I think you've hit on a few reasons already, Probably down to the rapid advance in wall thickness and variations in frame tubing material (different grades of steel used) that they varied the seat post to match whatever seat tube they used at the time. It was probably considered less of a replaceable or upgrade-able part, and more of part of the bike's overall frame spec.
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Because way back, they standardized the outer diameter for lugs, not the inner for seat posts.
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in short, it’s just complicated. There’s no simple answer to the question.
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OD minus 2 X Tube wall thickness, and what remains is the ID, inner diameter ..
Seat posts fit the ID of a tube, after perhaps reaming.. now still things are in flux, oversize seat tubes in low density metals
and carbon composites.. and those that are not even round..
some companies only make seat posts , not because everyone else is standardized, but in few sizes to lower their costs.
then one buys seat post sizing shims to adapt those few sizes of seat posts to a wide variety of seat rube ID ..
I happen to have 4 bikes using a shim sleeve between the seat post and the frame tubing.. it all works well..
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Seat posts fit the ID of a tube, after perhaps reaming.. now still things are in flux, oversize seat tubes in low density metals
and carbon composites.. and those that are not even round..
some companies only make seat posts , not because everyone else is standardized, but in few sizes to lower their costs.
then one buys seat post sizing shims to adapt those few sizes of seat posts to a wide variety of seat rube ID ..
I happen to have 4 bikes using a shim sleeve between the seat post and the frame tubing.. it all works well..
...
Last edited by fietsbob; 12-13-18 at 02:52 PM.
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You consider that standardized? I'd say "standardized" would mean interchangeable between bikes and brands. When I began riding back in the 1980s it seems there were only a few sizes. Now, not only are sizes not standard, neither is the shape of them. One of my bikes has an aero CF seat post that fits only on that model/brand bike. Which really isn't a bad thing, per se. I mean seat posts don't really wear out like bearings, chains, chainrings, or gear cassettes. So, you don't really have to worry about them much. But IMO, I think seatpost sizing has gone the opposite of standardizing.
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not identical
By the way, some confusion Standard tube diameters are fractional *, but expressed in metric equivalencies..
* 1" 1.125" 1.25" and so forth said as 25.4, 28.6, 31.8 .. mm
Metric system being Napoleonic,
the French bike companies tried metric tubes , but lost so much market share they gave in , and went imperial with the rest,
so now those who bought older french bikes cannot fit newer components, because of the sizing disparity...
Even a 'standard' 27.2 seat post will not be spot on as 27.2000 but may be 27.15, 27.14, 27.216, and so forth...
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* 1" 1.125" 1.25" and so forth said as 25.4, 28.6, 31.8 .. mm
Metric system being Napoleonic,
the French bike companies tried metric tubes , but lost so much market share they gave in , and went imperial with the rest,
so now those who bought older french bikes cannot fit newer components, because of the sizing disparity...
Even a 'standard' 27.2 seat post will not be spot on as 27.2000 but may be 27.15, 27.14, 27.216, and so forth...
...
Last edited by fietsbob; 12-13-18 at 02:30 PM.
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I wish everything was just 27.2 and we could all be happy or at least I would. However nothing is really ever quite standard everything is always sort of all over the dang place. Call me old fashioned but I like my headsets ec34/ec34, my bottom brackets BSA threaded and my seatposts 27.2, by cracky! Though really it is mostly just the latter two I can reasonably deal with tapered steerer tubes and integrated bearings and also for the record thru-axles are cool with me but maybe keep the threading all the same?
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I'm not seeing the rapid standardization that you claim occurred decades ago.
What am I missing?
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The posts on the Tandem are 1 1/8 so they can accept a handlebar stem. It doesn't bother me having weird sizes because it makes my parts less desirable to thieves. Half my bolt heads have to be drilled as it is.