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Old 12-14-18, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
Make sense, just like a car disc brake not getting hit with water from behind.
It makes no sense since a car disc does not have a shield to prevent it from getting hit with water from behind.

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I don't see what is so complicated here to understand.
Obviously.

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Your picture of a shield to protect a brake disc from getting hit by water from behind is actually a picture of a brake dust shield. Thank you for proactively destroying your argument.
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I just ordered the Turbospoke for my Bianchi Pista.

Hope it comes by Christmas.
That pista's going to be mighty cold if it takes that long.
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Old 12-14-18, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ogmtb
It makes no sense since a car disc does not have a shield to prevent it from getting hit with water from behind.



Obviously.



Your picture of a shield to protect a brake disc from getting hit by water from behind is actually a picture of a brake dust shield. Thank you for proactively destroying your argument.
Actually, it's not a brake dust shield.

It's formally a brake backing plate (US English) or Splash Shield (UK English) or a Spritzblech Bremsscheibe (Splashsheild Brakedisc) in German.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo...s/74006/page1/

I think you are incorrect and don't know what you're talking about, but this is BF, so it goes with the territory.

https://www.teileshop.de/products/71...emsscheibe.htm
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
my LBS was originally a bar with a dance floor. so the floor boards are fastened with wooden pegs, no nails. as our mech was replacing a spoke & truing my wheel last time, he unplugged the open sign as started pouring shots of pair & limoncello liquors, as he & his elderly Mom shared old time stories ...



& never mind lawn darts, my brother once threw a regular dart into my calf, then pulled it out. no blood even tho it went in pretty far. yeah Mom was not pleased with him, again



No nails is romantic, but that floor is nailed or stapled like every other T&G hardwood one. The plugs may have screws, but more likely decorative.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
No nails is romantic, but that floor is nailed or stapled like every other T&G hardwood one. The plugs may have screws, but more likely decorative.
I'll see if I can take a closer look when he turns his back next time. or I guess that won't help cuz the nails are hidden within the T&G?
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Old 12-14-18, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
Actually, it's not a brake dust shield
Says the guy who posted a photo showing a brake dust shield.

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I think you are incorrect and don't know what you're talking about, but this is BF, so it goes with the territory
Says the guy who thinks it makes sense to put a spoke protector on a front wheel to protect the disc rotor.

Amazing.
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Old 12-14-18, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
I'll see if I can take a closer look when he turns his back next time. or I guess that won't help cuz the nails are hidden within the T&G?


Yeah, the fasteners go in at an angle through the tongues- about every 6".

Those plugs are only at the row ends where the flooring changes direction- not much to hold down a floor made up of a bunch of short pieces.

Would be like a wheel with only two spokes.
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Old 12-14-18, 12:42 PM
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And we need to protect the spokes from the rotor because...????
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Old 12-14-18, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
Those plugs are only at the row ends where the flooring changes direction- not much to hold down a floor made up of a bunch of short pieces
I may have wrongly assumed. he mentioned the dance floor & the pegs but never actually said no nails. then there was the shots & the stories, so my memory got a little blurry around the edges ...
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
I may have wrongly assumed. he mentioned the dance floor & the pegs but never actually said no nails. then there was the shots & the stories, so my memory got a little blurry around the edges ...

Hope the shots didn't make the wheel truing wobbly.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
Hope the shots didn't make the wheel truing wobbly.
naww, he brought out the stuff after he was done with the hard part
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Old 12-14-18, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ogmtb


Says the guy who posted a photo showing a brake dust shield.



Says the guy who thinks it makes sense to put a spoke protector on a front wheel to protect the disc rotor.

Amazing.
The dingus in the original photo labelled it incorrectly.

When you build and race autoX cars get back to me. Otherwise **** off troll.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
The dingus in the original photo labelled it incorrectly.

When you build and race autoX cars get back to me. Otherwise **** off troll.
One doesn't need to have built and raced autoX cars* to understand that it doesn't make sense" just like a car disc brake not getting hit with water from behind" to put a spoke protector on a fork to prevent water from hitting the disc.

1. If it makes sense, why haven't the manufacturers done just that in the decades that disc brakes have been used on bikes?
2. If it makes sense, why haven't riders clamored for a solution to water hitting the disc from the back side?
3. If it makes sense, why don't the manufacturers, or riders, put a spoke protector on both sides of the rear wheel in order to protect the disc from getting hit with water from the back side?

No protector, the brake continued to work just fine despite getting repeatedly from the backside with water and mud:



* My autoX experience is limited to only a handful of events. If found them to be BORING compared to being on a real track and haven't done one in years. You might want to continue your Google searches of car forums to gain a better understanding of what the backing plates are designed to do. When I began to encounter brake fade issues, what I did was add ducts to channel more air, and water, directly to the rotor. It worked great.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
Actually, it's not a brake dust shield.

It's formally a brake backing plate (US English) or STONE GUARD (UK English) or a Spritzblech Bremsscheibe (Splashsheild Brakedisc) in German.
30 years in the motor trade and pretty much everyone here in the UK calls these a stone guard, stops stones getting caught in the brakes you see. Until now, I've never heard them called a splash guard, some are finned to direct air onto the disc (rotor, US English!) to allow cooling and I've occasionally heard them called a brake back plate though. (But technically that's a different thing for drum brakes)

Still totally useless fitted on a bike like that, nice floor though
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Old 12-14-18, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ogmtb
This rolled into the local shop recently. Not sure if it was a mistake at the factory or a super cool mod done by the owner.


Laminate.....

Home Depot, aisle 15
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I was at my LBS today and noticed that they have concrete floors.

Should i be concerned?
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