Clipless pedals got to me today!
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Clipless pedals got to me today!
Well everyone said it would happen so I'm not surprised. I certainly was embarrassed thought falling over at a stop sign with witnesses.
It happened so fast and I remember falling over while trying to unclip. I've only been riding clipped in since August of 2014 so I'm still learning I guess. Foot just wouldn't come off the pedal. Looking back, there were two cars coming from my left at a tee and I just braked first instead of unclipping and then braking. Once I stopped, it was all "uh-oh......". So I fell on my left knee which is sore and put a tiny scratch on my shifter but that's about it. Man, I hope I never do that again.
It happened so fast and I remember falling over while trying to unclip. I've only been riding clipped in since August of 2014 so I'm still learning I guess. Foot just wouldn't come off the pedal. Looking back, there were two cars coming from my left at a tee and I just braked first instead of unclipping and then braking. Once I stopped, it was all "uh-oh......". So I fell on my left knee which is sore and put a tiny scratch on my shifter but that's about it. Man, I hope I never do that again.
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I still remember the first time I fell over because I forgot to loosen my toe clips and straps (this was B.C. . . . . before clipless). Welcome to the club! I don't know where in Louisiana you're located but mine happened in New Orleans oddly enough.
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The secret? Realize you just made a fool of yourself. Rotate your elbow and knee out so they hit first but keep your arm and leg relaxed. If you stay relaxed and hit in 4 or 5 places, none will hit hard and you will be fine. Unclip, get up, dust yourself off and act like that was all planned.
45 years of riding toeclips, straps and cleat; pulling the straps tight teaches you a few tricks!
Edit: I did this in 1975 on the U of M campus, Ann Arbor at class change in front of 50(?) students.
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45 years of riding toeclips, straps and cleat; pulling the straps tight teaches you a few tricks!
Edit: I did this in 1975 on the U of M campus, Ann Arbor at class change in front of 50(?) students.
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I did it at a stop sign last summer with a car behind me. Picked myself up, waited for the light to turn and started on my way. Never even looked back at them.
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Regardless of HOW experienced you are, the "foot just wouldn't come off the pedal" situation WILL happen (repeatedly). If you're lucky enough not to fall into traffic, and most are, then the few-bumps-and-bruises result is most likely. OTOH, if you fall into the traffic lane, you're possibly dead. So for me, it's a risk/benefit analysis - If I use clips, I have a credible likelihood of being killed. If not, I lose a non-measurable amount of efficiency. For me, this is a clear, clear choice. Show me a clipped cyclist who hasn't fallen and I'll show you a liar. Or, perhaps more accurately, "there are two types of clipped cyclists - those who have fallen and those who will."
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Being well over 50, falling over on hard surface is something best avoided, therefore I've the spring in the cleats set weak, (I'm not worried about them coming off on a sprint, as I don't) & when I think there is a traffic light situation, or small town etc, the left foot is out then just riding on the top, so it can go down very quick if needed. Yes I've fell over as well only twice: once in the drive when I 1st tried them out, then another time when I changed down too quick on a hill & threw the chain off, it happens very quickly, as mentioned above do it in traffic & you might be dead, I learnt very quickly. Some friends of mine use them on their mountain bikes ??? to me that's a really bad idea.
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I've fallen a few times both with clips and clipless. Only once did the ouchie take any real healing time. Another time in front of a group of (non-cyclists) people.... all of whom wanted to help the old guy that someone suggested had pasted-out (from the heat). I think... I prefer the ouchies.
I need to practice that maneuver... maybe in the backyard on a warm day.
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Being well over 50, falling over on hard surface is something best avoided, therefore I've the spring in the cleats set weak, (I'm not worried about them coming off on a sprint, as I don't) & when I think there is a traffic light situation, or small town etc, the left foot is out then just riding on the top, so it can go down very quick if needed. Yes I've fell over as well only twice: once in the drive when I 1st tried them out, then another time when I changed down too quick on a hill & threw the chain off, it happens very quickly, as mentioned above do it in traffic & you might be dead, I learnt very quickly. Some friends of mine use them on their mountain bikes ??? to me that's a really bad idea.
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Good to hear you are fine with just minor scrapes
Like most situations when panic sets in the worst often happens
Once a I saw a new clipless user trying to clip in when crossing a busy intersection, he paniced as there were many cars waiting to make a right turn and took a really bad spill into coming traffic, he wasn't as lucky and needed several stitches. Unfortunately he gave up on clipless after that.
After I fell the first time, I blamed the pedals, either the spring was too tight or too much float. It look a while before I felt comfortable again but now I tend to keep my pedals and cleats well tuned, cause in the back of my head it was the equipment and not me.
As for mt biking, if I don't fall at least once, I didn't ride hard enough. Came close to riding off a narrow bridge with clips last year and now my balance is shot to the point where I need to unclip and tip toe across. Even with platforms its tough, need to constantly remind myself not to look down...
Like most situations when panic sets in the worst often happens
Once a I saw a new clipless user trying to clip in when crossing a busy intersection, he paniced as there were many cars waiting to make a right turn and took a really bad spill into coming traffic, he wasn't as lucky and needed several stitches. Unfortunately he gave up on clipless after that.
After I fell the first time, I blamed the pedals, either the spring was too tight or too much float. It look a while before I felt comfortable again but now I tend to keep my pedals and cleats well tuned, cause in the back of my head it was the equipment and not me.
As for mt biking, if I don't fall at least once, I didn't ride hard enough. Came close to riding off a narrow bridge with clips last year and now my balance is shot to the point where I need to unclip and tip toe across. Even with platforms its tough, need to constantly remind myself not to look down...
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It happens. I usually happens to me when I'm talking with someone. Which guarantees a witness.
I use clipless on all of my bikes, it feels strange to ride and not be clipped in.
Practice unclipping both feet. That way when you have a problem and your dominant foot gets stuck, it's not so strange to unclip your off-side foot. Just remember to lean the right way.
I use clipless on all of my bikes, it feels strange to ride and not be clipped in.
Practice unclipping both feet. That way when you have a problem and your dominant foot gets stuck, it's not so strange to unclip your off-side foot. Just remember to lean the right way.
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I have had more spills with platform pedals because I hit a bump and it knocked my feet off the pedals! I had a couple when I started clipless but not in the last two years. I have riding for about 5 years now. I love clipless. I hate to ride anything else now.
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I am not quite sure where I fit in here. At 61, am I well over 50 or badly over 50? Last spill was last summer when I came to a stop sign I didn't know was there in the wrong gear on a steep hill. No witness, no bruises, so all was well. I did adhere to my advice above.
As far as traffic goes: Every time I have fallen in traffic it is because the traffic was stopped. And I have yet to fall without attracting lots of attention! I suppose there is a situation that could turn out badly, but it is pretty far down on my list of bike accident worries.
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As far as traffic goes: Every time I have fallen in traffic it is because the traffic was stopped. And I have yet to fall without attracting lots of attention! I suppose there is a situation that could turn out badly, but it is pretty far down on my list of bike accident worries.
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Thanks for all the comments. At least I'm in good company who can sympathize with this situation. My clipless pedals are Mavic Elites. LBS said they were set at the lowest setting for ease of operation. I'm going to verify that. Even though this happened, I still made my ride that day but boy my knee felt bad about 5 minutes after I got home.
I like the feel of being clipped in when riding. I don't ride in the city but always on back roads. I would think that riding in the city clipped in would be altogether a different scenario for me. I don't know if I would want to do that.
This will make me much more aware of being clipped in and hopefully a "good learning experience". I'm 63 but not a klutz so I should be able to continue on.
I like the feel of being clipped in when riding. I don't ride in the city but always on back roads. I would think that riding in the city clipped in would be altogether a different scenario for me. I don't know if I would want to do that.
This will make me much more aware of being clipped in and hopefully a "good learning experience". I'm 63 but not a klutz so I should be able to continue on.
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Don't ya just hate when that happens?
I too keep mine pretty loose so that in an "emergency" I can usually get out of them simply by yanking my foot up, but once you get tilted over more than a few degrees, yer goin' down! Never had any problem with them coming unclipped unintentionally. I too unclip and flip the pedals over to the platform side in heavy traffic, pedestrians or any other dodgy situation - especially when passing that group on the multi-use path with the two little kids on big wheels, a dog on a leash and a couple of strollers!!
All that said, I agree with FarHorizon - there are two kinds of riders riding clipped in...
I too keep mine pretty loose so that in an "emergency" I can usually get out of them simply by yanking my foot up, but once you get tilted over more than a few degrees, yer goin' down! Never had any problem with them coming unclipped unintentionally. I too unclip and flip the pedals over to the platform side in heavy traffic, pedestrians or any other dodgy situation - especially when passing that group on the multi-use path with the two little kids on big wheels, a dog on a leash and a couple of strollers!!
All that said, I agree with FarHorizon - there are two kinds of riders riding clipped in...
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Well everyone said it would happen so I'm not surprised. I certainly was embarrassed thought falling over at a stop sign with witnesses.
It happened so fast and I remember falling over while trying to unclip. I've only been riding clipped in since August of 2014 so I'm still learning I guess. Foot just wouldn't come off the pedal. Looking back, there were two cars coming from my left at a tee and I just braked first instead of unclipping and then braking. Once I stopped, it was all "uh-oh......". So I fell on my left knee which is sore and put a tiny scratch on my shifter but that's about it. Man, I hope I never do that again.
It happened so fast and I remember falling over while trying to unclip. I've only been riding clipped in since August of 2014 so I'm still learning I guess. Foot just wouldn't come off the pedal. Looking back, there were two cars coming from my left at a tee and I just braked first instead of unclipping and then braking. Once I stopped, it was all "uh-oh......". So I fell on my left knee which is sore and put a tiny scratch on my shifter but that's about it. Man, I hope I never do that again.
Do stupid stuff get hurt bad.
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mid 1970s, Some shipmates and I are on liberty and lost in San Francisco, standing on a corner trying to figure out how to get to Fisherman's Wharf. I spot a guy 'Really Movin' on a "Ten Speed" and decide to wave him down, (who better to know the streets than a 'Serious Biker', and back in the Day an adult on a "Ten Speed" pretty much had to be one) I guess I surprised him, as he came to a somewhat 'Hurried' stop. Then he surprised the hell out of Us by Just Falling Over on his side. Being 'ELITE' and 'HIGHLY TRAINED' Warrior's, we IMMEDIATELY LEAP into totally Stunned, Silent IMMOBILITY, while he is laying in the middle of the Street trying to catch his breath! Turns out he was 'Strapped In' to the pedals, which caused the improv'd impersonation of Arte Johnson's 'Yellow Raincoat' character.
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Regardless of HOW experienced you are, the "foot just wouldn't come off the pedal" situation WILL happen (repeatedly). If you're lucky enough not to fall into traffic, and most are, then the few-bumps-and-bruises result is most likely. OTOH, if you fall into the traffic lane, you're possibly dead. So for me, it's a risk/benefit analysis - If I use clips, I have a credible likelihood of being killed. If not, I lose a non-measurable amount of efficiency. For me, this is a clear, clear choice. Show me a clipped cyclist who hasn't fallen and I'll show you a liar. Or, perhaps more accurately, "there are two types of clipped cyclists - those who have fallen and those who will."
This from Wiki: A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.
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Someone needs to take over for Stapfam and Digital Gee to award each new Club Tombay member their certificate and be the arbiter of questionable falls that come across. Points for coming forward voluntarily to let everyone know about their admittance into the lofty environs of "The Club".
Jan, same here, the self fulfilling prophecy part seems apropos for these. I am sure my time will come, but even last Friday's spectacular over the bar face plane wasn't related to the clipless pedals. just one extremely fast and unpredictable dog. Mine goes back to 1971 in the toe clip and strap days, like yours. I can't blame an inanimate object for things I did myself.
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Jan, same here, the self fulfilling prophecy part seems apropos for these. I am sure my time will come, but even last Friday's spectacular over the bar face plane wasn't related to the clipless pedals. just one extremely fast and unpredictable dog. Mine goes back to 1971 in the toe clip and strap days, like yours. I can't blame an inanimate object for things I did myself.
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I encouraged two friends last summer to try clipped pedals. The first fell the first day using them and promptly removed them and sold the pedals and shoes.
The second had his Tombay after about a month of riding with them. I was riding with him at the time of his first tombay - it was hillarious. He stopped beside a steep embankment and rolled over in slow motion sliding down the embankment on his back with the bike on top of him.
Really, Bill, today? I hope that you're talking about the dog incident and not since then! Edit: Just read your most recent post. Phew. The dog incident was enough.
My most recent Tombay was a couple years ago turning left at a traffic light - the vehicle in front of me didn't move when I thought it would and before you know it ... thankfully the driver behind me was attentive. I agree, just get up and keep going like it happens all the time.
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mid 1970s, Some shipmates and I are on liberty and lost in San Francisco, standing on a corner trying to figure out how to get to Fisherman's Wharf. I spot a guy 'Really Movin' on a "Ten Speed" and decide to wave him down, (who better to know the streets than a 'Serious Biker', and back in the Day an adult on a "Ten Speed" pretty much had to be one) I guess I surprised him, as he came to a somewhat 'Hurried' stop. Then he surprised the hell out of Us by Just Falling Over on his side. Being 'ELITE' and 'HIGHLY TRAINED' Warrior's, we IMMEDIATELY LEAP into totally Stunned, Silent IMMOBILITY, while he is laying in the middle of the Street trying to catch his breath! Turns out he was 'Strapped In' to the pedals, which caused the improv'd impersonation of Arte Johnson's 'Yellow Raincoat' character.
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One of my first outings clipless I stopped at my house at the end of my run and as I turned Strava off on my phone I fell over. After a delay still lying on the kerb I started to laugh as no one had seen me , only for a white van driver across the road to roll down his window and say " at least you can laugh about it"