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Old 04-11-24, 09:11 AM
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Fizik Arione R1 weight is off



I just bought an used Arione R1 off Facebook marketplace. Everything looks fine, it came with its box and papers, but it's weight is off, it is 179g but it should be 163. Is it normal?

Ps: my scale is correct since I weighed my iPhone and it was correct.
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Really? Rarely, at least in the bike world, will anyone find items of any kind that exactly match the stated/listed weight. 16 grams is minuscule, not noticeable on a bike. It could even be your scale is off.
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Really? Rarely, at least in the bike world, will anyone find items of any kind that exactly match the stated/listed weight. 16 grams is minuscule, not noticeable on a bike. It could even be your scale is off.
Probably represents the difference in density/formulation of the saddle's base material between the saddle they originally weighed and later production runs.

The OP might get more-useful opinions at the weightweenies.com site.
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After around 50k miles on my near-identical Arione, I chafed off a good ounce from it.
Give it time...you'll get there.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Probably represents the difference in density/formulation of the saddle's base material between the saddle they originally weighed and later production runs.

The OP might get more-useful opinions at the weightweenies.com site.
thanks, I’ll check it out
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There was a time when bike weight could be trimmed with a drill and a hacksaw.

Fortunately time has passed and there is a more significant weight issue to address that presents itself on the kitchen table.

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Easy - 16g of thread have rubbed off of the previous owner’s shorts onto the saddle
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Really?? Common fact that molds and dies wear, pre molded material mix varies the density somewhat with each batch, woven fibers vary some as well as their woven "tightness". It's called manufacturing tolerance. At one time rim and tire companies would say that actual weights could vary by 10% from listed ones.

If having to have the listed (likely an average over a production run) weight is a high priority, I suggest buying a number of these seats, weigh them and return the ones you won't accept. Andy (I sure hope this was a trolling post because if not the OP showed a faith in the promotional listings that isn't likely to hold water)
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From the picture it appears that the rails have been wrapped ??

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Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
Really?? Common fact that molds and dies wear, pre molded material mix varies the density somewhat with each batch, woven fibers vary some as well as their woven "tightness". It's called manufacturing tolerance. At one time rim and tire companies would say that actual weights could vary by 10% from listed ones.

If having to have the listed (likely an average over a production run) weight is a high priority, I suggest buying a number of these seats, weigh them and return the ones you won't accept. Andy (I sure hope this was a trolling post because if not the OP showed a faith in the promotional listings that isn't likely to hold water)
No trolling, I was just wondering if something like this was normal or I had been ripped off with some kind of fake
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How is this a mechanical issue? Are you looking for advice on how b to shave off 16 grams,?
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
How is this a mechanical issue? Are you looking for advice on how b to shave off 16 grams,?
no I was just trying to understand if this is something usual to happen, since I thought it was unusual. Nothing wrong with 16 grams more
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What about post #9 in this thread ?
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Could be a build-up of chamois cream and other body waste from previous owner. Not something I want to think about. This miniscule difference in claimed weight is really nothing and nothing to be concerned about. Pretty common from tires/tubes to frames and various other parts. A (superlightweight) 12lb bike is 5443 grams, does 16g really make a difference?

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Originally Posted by Barry2
What about post #9 in this thread ?
Who knows? Still not a mechanical problem, except fine tuning expectations to reality. IMO saddles are about comfort, not precise weight specs.
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trash them on FB and maybe they will send you a new one !

not worth worrying about in my opinion

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It’s fake!
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It is amazing the things that people get upset over even if minorly. You said there were 85 peanuts in this jar and I only counted 79...LOL

It is a manufactured thing it will vary in weight everything in the world will very in weight unless each item is being weighed out to be 1 pound or whatever it will have variances I cannot imagine something not having variances I could say if it was waaaaaaaay off like to the point of ridiculousness like it was a pound heavier.
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Originally Posted by Friedrich


I just bought an used Arione R1 off Facebook marketplace. Everything looks fine, it came with its box and papers, but it's weight is off, it is 179g but it should be 163. Is it normal?

Ps: my scale is correct since I weighed my iPhone and it was correct.
Doing a simple Google Search for it you get it to be 175gr which is quite close to yours.
It also comes in two sizes and from the Fizik website:
Regular size:
- Weight: 163 gr
- Dimensions: 300x126 mm

Large size:
- Weight: 181 gr
- Dimensions: 300x140 mm

Could it be yours being a Large one?
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Originally Posted by papaki72
Doing a simple Google Search for it you get it to be 175gr which is quite close to yours.
It also comes in two sizes and from the Fizik website:
Regular size:
- Weight: 163 gr
- Dimensions: 300x126 mm

Large size:
- Weight: 181 gr
- Dimensions: 300x140 mm

Could it be yours being a Large one?
no, it’s a regular one
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Originally Posted by Friedrich
no, it’s a regular one
You shouldn't worry. Fizik has been really rating it a lot lower than it actually is. Almost in any tests it is reported heavier than Fizik says it is. Actually it seems like Fizik reports all of its saddles being lighter than they are.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Who knows? Still not a mechanical problem, except fine tuning expectations to reality. IMO saddles are about comfort, not precise weight specs.
Which subforum should he have posted in about a non-specific bike component?

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It is amazing the things that people get upset over even if minorly. You said there were 85 peanuts in this jar and I only counted 79...LOL

It is a manufactured thing it will vary in weight everything in the world will very in weight unless each item is being weighed out to be 1 pound or whatever it will have variances I cannot imagine something not having variances I could say if it was waaaaaaaay off like to the point of ridiculousness like it was a pound heavier.
No one is upset. The OP said he's just trying to discern a fake - which is becoming a huge problem.
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Which subforum should he have posted in about a non-specific bike component?



No one is upset. The OP said he's just trying to discern a fake - which is becoming a huge problem.
I would have, if I had to post, put it in general cycling.

It is a slight problem...really only a problem if you don't buy from authorized dealers and continue feeding the fake and knockoff markets. Obviously not talking used here but first purchase stuff. For used you want to be careful but minor weight variation is not really anything especially considering we have a sample size of one.
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For the metric impaired (like me), 16 grams is 0.564383 ounces.
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