Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

2013 Specialized Roubaix Expert - Pricing help needed

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

2013 Specialized Roubaix Expert - Pricing help needed

Old 07-19-15, 07:16 PM
  #1  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
2013 Specialized Roubaix Expert - Pricing help needed

My LBS has a NOS 2013 Roubaix Expert that he's selling for $2500 Canadian...roughly $1950 USD with today's exchange rate. Is that a good deal for a 2013 bike. It's my size, love the colour (black and blue) and fits the bill perfectly for an endurance bike to compliment my TCR Advanced.

What say ye brethren?

I've also been looking at a 2014 Defy Advanced 1 (full Ultegra) for $2300 CAD and a 2015 Defy Advanced Pro 1 for $2650. Not to crazy about the last option due to the disc brakes.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
sw686blue is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 07:25 PM
  #2  
Dunbar
Senior Member
 
Dunbar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,079

Bikes: Roubaix SL4 Expert , Cervelo S2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I own a 2014 with 11sp 105. See if they'll throw in the CG-R seat post. The new ones come with it and it really makes a difference on the very stiff SL4 Roubaix frame.

I think that's a fair price. They were around $3200 new if I recall correctly. The 10sp Ultegra groupset isn't as good as the new 11sp stuff IMO but that can be upgraded in the future for not a lot of money. Bear in mind that the Roubaix is probably due for a refresh next year.
Dunbar is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 07:37 PM
  #3  
knobster
.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,981

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Comp, Soma ES

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I think it's a very good price. I've got a 2013 Comp that I paid a little more than that for a couple months ago. I think these 10 speed bikes aren't selling since 11 speed is out so good deals to be had.
__________________
Demented internet tail wagging imbicile.
knobster is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 07:46 PM
  #4  
rms13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,517
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 274 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I wouldn't spend that kind of money on 10 speed Ultegra. I'd rather have 11 speed 105 and I have had then both
rms13 is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 07:55 PM
  #5  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
What does it take to convert from 10 speed to 11 speed? I know that the chain would need to be switched. FD? RD?

Thanks for your input!
sw686blue is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 08:17 PM
  #6  
TrojanHorse
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Posts: 13,333

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 147 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1103 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 43 Posts
If it's the SL3 model then jump on it. If it's an SL4, don't.
TrojanHorse is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 08:33 PM
  #7  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
It's a SL4 frame. Is there a big difference between the two?
sw686blue is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 08:36 PM
  #8  
Dunbar
Senior Member
 
Dunbar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,079

Bikes: Roubaix SL4 Expert , Cervelo S2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by sw686blue View Post
What does it take to convert from 10 speed to 11 speed? I know that the chain would need to be switched. FD? RD?
The biggest expense is a rear wheel with an 11sp hub. If you don't own one, or plan to upgrade the wheels, you need to factor that into your budget. Then you'll need an entire 11sp groupset plus some kind of bottom bracket adapter (I use the Praxis adapter.) I don't know if there are still crazy cheap deals on 11sp 105 (<$350 for the entire groupset from the UK sites.) My SL4 frame was a warranty replacement had 10sp 105 on it. I installed 11sp 105 on it myself and sold the old stuff for $250 on Craiglist so it ended up being a pretty cheap upgrade.
Dunbar is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 08:48 PM
  #9  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Dunbar View Post
The biggest expense is a rear wheel with an 11sp hub. If you don't own one, or plan to upgrade the wheels, you need to factor that into your budget. Then you'll need an entire 11sp groupset plus some kind of bottom bracket adapter (I use the Praxis adapter.) I don't know if there are still crazy cheap deals on 11sp 105 (<$350 for the entire groupset from the UK sites.) My SL4 frame was a warranty replacement had 10sp 105 on it. I installed 11sp 105 on it myself and sold the old stuff for $250 on Craiglist so it ended up being a pretty cheap upgrade.
Thank you for the detailed response. If that is the case, it's a lot more than what I am prepared to do. I was thinking that $2500 CAD is a good price for this bike seeing that the original price was around $3700 CAD back in 2013. Not sure if he is prepared to sell for less considering its a 2013 model with 10 speed versus the latest 11 speed. I'm positive that the 10 speed is a more than worthy group set.
sw686blue is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 08:56 PM
  #10  
Dunbar
Senior Member
 
Dunbar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,079

Bikes: Roubaix SL4 Expert , Cervelo S2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
It just depends on what your plans are with the wheels. Many people upgrade them pretty quickly. I had a 2013 SL4 Expert loaner for a few weeks during the warranty process and can tell you from experience that the stock wheels aren't great. The rear would rub the brakes when standing and pedaling hard. The new Roubaix's probably aren't much better. Bikes at this price point unfortunately don't come with great stock wheels.
Dunbar is offline  
Old 07-19-15, 09:05 PM
  #11  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
If I were to go with the Roubaix, there are no immediate plans to upgrade the wheels. I would use them and when my wallet permitted it :-) I'd upgrade to something better.
sw686blue is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 05:16 AM
  #12  
Juan Foote
LBKA (formerly punkncat)
 
Juan Foote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jawja
Posts: 3,638

Bikes: Spec Roubaix SL4, GT Traffic 1.0

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1152 Post(s)
Liked 128 Times in 96 Posts
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
If it's the SL3 model then jump on it. If it's an SL4, don't.

You mind following that up with any manner of fact or conjecture as to why? The SL4 is the newer "better" frame, so....

I ride one of these and whether it's 10 or 11 and has a fancy springy seat post, I would jump on that like my high school sweety after prom.
Juan Foote is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 05:57 AM
  #13  
Campag4life
Voice of the Industry
 
Campag4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 12,572
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1187 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by punkncat View Post
You mind following that up with any manner of fact or conjecture as to why? The SL4 is the newer "better" frame, so....

I ride one of these and whether it's 10 or 11 and has a fancy springy seat post, I would jump on that like my high school sweety after prom.
Newer isn't necessarily better. Many and perhaps most that have ridden the SL4 Roubaix believe the rear of the bike is overly harsh. If the SL3 Roubaix was improved upon, I would own its replacement. Reality is, the SL3 Roubaix in my opinion is probably the best endurance bike ever created. Stiffness, handling and geometry are unrivaled...and the bike I own...I ordered the SL3 Pro frameset from Specialized and built with Campy. My guess in a year or so, Specialized will regress the replacement SL5 Roubaix to the stiffness of the SL3...perhaps with some other small tweaks...which will make the bike better fit its endurance label...which should be less than race stiffness for greater comfort. This isn't the first rodeo with making a bike too stiff from Specialized. Spesh responded from the pro peloton with the SL2 Tarmac which is noodly for a race bike by current standards and made the SL3 Tarmac uber stiff. Moved the needle too far the other way. Pro's complained. The SL4 Tarmac resulted which has great vertical compliance and some would argue the best non aero race bike on the planet. That is the way design works. It is iterative. The vision and targets of the designers doesn't always resonate with the demographic of the bike in the hands of owners. All designs are a work in progress.

Last edited by Campag4life; 07-20-15 at 06:00 AM.
Campag4life is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 07:04 AM
  #14  
Juan Foote
LBKA (formerly punkncat)
 
Juan Foote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jawja
Posts: 3,638

Bikes: Spec Roubaix SL4, GT Traffic 1.0

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1152 Post(s)
Liked 128 Times in 96 Posts
Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
....
I appreciate your being Trojan's supporter....your post was more along the lines of what his "should have" been after a comment like that.
Juan Foote is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 09:20 AM
  #15  
TrojanHorse
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Posts: 13,333

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 147 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1103 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by punkncat View Post
I appreciate your being Trojan's supporter....your post was more along the lines of what his "should have" been after a comment like that.
Sorry, didn't realize I had to write an oeuvre to post in this thread.
TrojanHorse is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 09:25 AM
  #16  
knobster
.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,981

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Comp, Soma ES

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by sw686blue View Post
If I were to go with the Roubaix, there are no immediate plans to upgrade the wheels. I would use them and when my wallet permitted it :-) I'd upgrade to something better.
On my Comp it came with DT Swiss 3.0's which aren't great. I immediately upgraded to some NOS wheels that I got off EBay. But like anything 10 speed, the price has come down quite a bit since 11 speed came out. Personally I have no desire or need for 11 speed so I'm happy to take advantage of the lower prices. The Expert model comes with the 4.0 wheels but again, I've not read many glowing reviews of these DT Swiss wheels. They will be good enough but may not be what you're wanting later down the road.
__________________
Demented internet tail wagging imbicile.
knobster is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 10:34 AM
  #17  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
The purpose of this thread was really to get an idea of whether or not $2500 CAD for a 2013 Roubaix Expert is a good deal. I'm sure that Ultegra 11s are better than 10s. As I have stated earlier, even though the 11s are the next generation of Ultegras, the Ultegras 10s have been around for a long time and have served many riders very well. As for the frameset, there will surely be people for and against the SL4.

Some people have stated that it is a good deal and I tend to think that too. For the ones that would pass on this deal, what would you recommend in an endurance bike for that kind of money? There is also the 2014 Defy Advanced 1 (full Ultegra 11s) for $2300 CAD that I can pick up too. Is that more bang for my buck?

Last edited by sw686blue; 07-20-15 at 10:38 AM.
sw686blue is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 10:47 AM
  #18  
Dunbar
Senior Member
 
Dunbar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,079

Bikes: Roubaix SL4 Expert , Cervelo S2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'd look at the Trek Emonda H2 geometry. The one with 11s Shimano 105 is a great deal and it's supposed to have a great ride. The Roubaix SL4 is every bit as stiff as a race bike. I can't even ride mine without the CG-R seat post installed.
Dunbar is offline  
Old 07-20-15, 10:56 AM
  #19  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks for the info regarding the seat post. It's something that I'll keep in mind if I decide to go forward with the Roubaix. My current bike, a TCR Advanced, is very stiff too and I really don't mind it. I like the idea of a more relaxed geometry and hence why I'm looking to get an endurance bike. I'll also set up an appointment to take the Roubaix for a ride before making a purchase.

I really appreciate all the feedback in this thread!
sw686blue is offline  
Old 08-06-15, 08:22 PM
  #20  
sw686blue
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 149
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
Ok, went back to have another look at the 2013 Roubaix and the store upgraded all the components to Ultegra 11 speed. They replaced the 105 cassette for an Ultegra. The Tiagra chain to Ultegra too. They replaced the 2013 crank for a 2015 Ultegra crank. They replaced the DT Axis wheels with Fulcrum Four S.

They also increased the price by $300.

I'm happy that the bike is now full 11 speed Ultegra but the additional $300 is less welcomed! :-(

What do you guys think?
sw686blue is offline  
Old 08-06-15, 09:04 PM
  #21  
Flatbroke
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Central, CA
Posts: 633
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by sw686blue View Post
Ok, went back to have another look at the 2013 Roubaix and the store upgraded all the components to Ultegra 11 speed. They replaced the 105 cassette for an Ultegra. The Tiagra chain to Ultegra too. They replaced the 2013 crank for a 2015 Ultegra crank. They replaced the DT Axis wheels with Fulcrum Four S.

They also increased the price by $300.

I'm happy that the bike is now full 11 speed Ultegra but the additional $300 is less welcomed! :-(

What do you guys think?
I thinks it a good deal. I have a 2015 ultegra group but it has an FSA crank. I would prefer the ultegra crank. It has all the current stuff for over 1000 bucks less. If it its and you like it. Get it
Flatbroke is offline  
Old 08-07-15, 12:54 AM
  #22  
Long Tom
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Go Ducks!
Posts: 1,549
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
SL4 Ultegra Roubaix with CG/R is a great ride. Just sayin'.
Long Tom is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bres dad
Road Cycling
24
02-17-15 09:18 AM
stevenba
Road Cycling
20
04-10-14 10:24 PM
WaldenTwo
Road Cycling
8
01-23-14 02:15 PM
zvez
General Cycling Discussion
4
09-07-13 10:35 AM
ffftroutbum
Road Cycling
2
06-04-13 02:41 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.