Look KEO Pedals Creaking Fix - Finally
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Look KEO Pedals Creaking Fix - Finally
With the purchase of a new bike I wanted some light weight, minimal, sleek pedals so bought two pairs of Look KEOs, one Carbon and one regular blade. Bought Look based on decades of experience with Look DELTA pedals, but wanted something decades newer and lighter. Put on the Looks and on the first hill they started creaking like there was something terribly wrong with my bottom bracket. I have been after a solution for months and have searched the interwebs and read dozens of guesses and tries but they all failed, until now.
The one I found which completely eliminated the annoying noise from both pedals was candle wax. Melt a candle down so you can load up a Q-tip and then lightly coat all the cleat mating surfaces on the pedal- under the nose, the metal foot plate and under where the cleat clips in the back. I also hit the nose of the cleat just for insurance. According to the person’s post I read, just repeat every month or whenever it starts. The wax doesn’t attract dirt like grease or oil.
I beats me why Look tolerated this design and the resulting noise. I know some will say Buy ‘Shimano or buy this or that, but those of us who already made the investment, this is the answer without spending more.
Bonus footage: Clipping into the KETOS was always a PITA compared to the DELTAS/. One savy guy put very thin lock washers (the star type) which raised only the nose of the cleat about 1 mm. Tried it and bam, no more issues clipping in.
Will report back if there are any issues.
The one I found which completely eliminated the annoying noise from both pedals was candle wax. Melt a candle down so you can load up a Q-tip and then lightly coat all the cleat mating surfaces on the pedal- under the nose, the metal foot plate and under where the cleat clips in the back. I also hit the nose of the cleat just for insurance. According to the person’s post I read, just repeat every month or whenever it starts. The wax doesn’t attract dirt like grease or oil.
I beats me why Look tolerated this design and the resulting noise. I know some will say Buy ‘Shimano or buy this or that, but those of us who already made the investment, this is the answer without spending more.
Bonus footage: Clipping into the KETOS was always a PITA compared to the DELTAS/. One savy guy put very thin lock washers (the star type) which raised only the nose of the cleat about 1 mm. Tried it and bam, no more issues clipping in.
Will report back if there are any issues.
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Which cleats did you install?
The ones that come with new pedals have nylon/teflon that touch the cleats. They also sell the "grips" that don't have the nylon/teflon.
A few weeks ago I had the carbon leaf spring snap on my Look Carbon Blades. Since I had over 28,000 miles on them I decided to buy new one instead of rebuild the old ones. They came with cleats that have the nylon/teflon surface.... it clicked and creaked whenever I applied torque to them. I replaced those cleats with the "Grips" and they are silent.
Here's a topic I started about my experience: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...nd-squeak.html
The ones that come with new pedals have nylon/teflon that touch the cleats. They also sell the "grips" that don't have the nylon/teflon.
A few weeks ago I had the carbon leaf spring snap on my Look Carbon Blades. Since I had over 28,000 miles on them I decided to buy new one instead of rebuild the old ones. They came with cleats that have the nylon/teflon surface.... it clicked and creaked whenever I applied torque to them. I replaced those cleats with the "Grips" and they are silent.
Here's a topic I started about my experience: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...nd-squeak.html
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Which cleats did you install?
The ones that come with new pedals have nylon/teflon that touch the cleats. They also sell the "grips" that don't have the nylon/teflon.
A few weeks ago I had the carbon leaf spring snap on my Look Carbon Blades. Since I had over 28,000 miles on them I decided to buy new one instead of rebuild the old ones. They came with cleats that have the nylon/teflon surface.... it clicked and creaked whenever I applied torque to them. I replaced those cleats with the "Grips" and they are silent.
Here's a topic I started about my experience: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...nd-squeak.html
The ones that come with new pedals have nylon/teflon that touch the cleats. They also sell the "grips" that don't have the nylon/teflon.
A few weeks ago I had the carbon leaf spring snap on my Look Carbon Blades. Since I had over 28,000 miles on them I decided to buy new one instead of rebuild the old ones. They came with cleats that have the nylon/teflon surface.... it clicked and creaked whenever I applied torque to them. I replaced those cleats with the "Grips" and they are silent.
Here's a topic I started about my experience: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...nd-squeak.html
This afternoon I did 30 miles and climbed 1600’ with nary a sound other than the drivetrain and tires on pavement. I was thrilled and even bagged a second place in a KOM on a hill climb.
What really blows me away is that with all our hi-tech lubricants, old fashioned medieval candle wax did it.
See bonus footage note in my original post if you have an issues clipping in. I will check out your thread.
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Did you try candle wax on the mating surfaces? I did take my KEOs completely apart and lubed the bearings so I would image you could do the same with your pedals. Requires a vice, a rag so the vice doesn’t mar the pedal, and channel locks or an appropriately sized wrench.
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Yup, I've used wax on my clipless pedals/cleats for a few years. Works fine, only needs to be reapplied every few months at most.
And between spoke crossings that creaked on my one wheelset with black enameled/painted/coated spokes. For that I use leftover scented candle wax because it's soft so I can pinch it up between my fingers and moosh it between the spoke crossings.
And between spoke crossings that creaked on my one wheelset with black enameled/painted/coated spokes. For that I use leftover scented candle wax because it's soft so I can pinch it up between my fingers and moosh it between the spoke crossings.
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Yup, I've used wax on my clipless pedals/cleats for a few years. Works fine, only needs to be reapplied every few months at most.
And between spoke crossings that creaked on my one wheelset with black enameled/painted/coated spokes. For that I use leftover scented candle wax because it's soft so I can pinch it up between my fingers and moosh it between the spoke crossings.
And between spoke crossings that creaked on my one wheelset with black enameled/painted/coated spokes. For that I use leftover scented candle wax because it's soft so I can pinch it up between my fingers and moosh it between the spoke crossings.
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I was just kidding about your pedals 👍
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I've had 3 pairs of Look Keo pedals, and only one of them squeaked. It was annoying, no doubt. They were cheaper Keo Blades. My older more carbon blades (with a much narrower blade) never squeaked. Nor do my Favero pedals. [I've also had 3 pairs of Delta pedals, and none of them squeaked either.]
What carbon blade tension are you squeaky guys using? I think maybe the higher tension blades might squeak less. I also use the gray grip cleats.
What carbon blade tension are you squeaky guys using? I think maybe the higher tension blades might squeak less. I also use the gray grip cleats.
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When purchased, I got the grip type as well as the nylon/teflon variety. Both squeaked/creaked unmercifully. I first used the grips and they creaked, so hoping for a solution, switched over to the non-grip bi-material cleats and no love. I have a real thing about noises and will spend way too many hours getting them resolved. The funny thing is that before the wax miracle, I put my old DELTA silent pedals back on and clipped in using the KETO nylon/teflon cleats and they creaked as bad as the KETOS. At that point I was 100% positive the noise came from the cleat/pedal interface.
This afternoon I did 30 miles and climbed 1600’ with nary a sound other than the drivetrain and tires on pavement. I was thrilled and even bagged a second place in a KOM on a hill climb.
What really blows me away is that with all our hi-tech lubricants, old fashioned medieval candle wax did it.
See bonus footage note in my original post if you have an issues clipping in. I will check out your thread.
This afternoon I did 30 miles and climbed 1600’ with nary a sound other than the drivetrain and tires on pavement. I was thrilled and even bagged a second place in a KOM on a hill climb.
What really blows me away is that with all our hi-tech lubricants, old fashioned medieval candle wax did it.
See bonus footage note in my original post if you have an issues clipping in. I will check out your thread.
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Update: Did a 50 miler today and the miracle fix was an illusion. They started to creak again on climbs. HOWEVER, I really need to torque down the tension on the pedals because after waxing, my shoes swivel all over. Am also losing power since I am also working to keep my feet straight. Will see and report back.
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did you use two coats of wax this time? Now rsbob, dont con me!!
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Wax on, wax off? Maybe I need a better grade of wax, like my cross country ski wax, which is a thought.
I will NOT give up on my con. Yet
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