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Old 07-28-07, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by texsunvdub
I have a Heidemann Werke bike from the early 60's that was bought from a VW dealership. It's a folding bike that will fit under the hood of a Beetle



if anybody is interested i am open to offers. I sold my beetle so i don't display it anymore
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That's pretty cool! We used to have a VW car show that would come to town each year up in CT. Tons of beetles were there, but none with a bike like that. It looks like a great idea too- fits right in a little spot in your car so you can drive and then deploy it as you need it. Two forms of transportation in one is convenient for sure.

I own a VW Golf and dig old VWs and Porsches for sure. I do wish I had a Beetle to tinker with sometimes.
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Cool looking folder. I had a '63 VW Bug, It was a delight to drive, and it got lots of attention. The VW Shows were tons of fun! The folding bike would have looked great in the display, but would also been fun to ride around the show!!! ! I sold my bug about 4 years ago. Sometimes I would like to have it back!

I have a Raleigh Twenty, it is a fun bike to ride around on! Maybe it could use some company! I sent you an email!

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I did a search on ebay for german bicycle, and there are lots of german bicycle army troops in WW1 and WW2. Maybe those collectors have all the bikes!

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My aunt had a Fischer. I don't know if they still manufacture bikes or not. But when I used to ride bike about 17 years ago, the MTB's were in full fashion.
But bikes were really more used for commuting and running erands than for leasure.
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i own an old kokhof super sport from 60's-70's
i have tried researching this bicycle but god help me i cant find out anything about this bike, it's a great bike, i little on the heavy side but it rides great. twelve speed with a simplex de-railer.
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Old 02-01-09, 04:45 PM
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Corrotec Hydro-Carbon, top end road bike. Bought the frame cheaply on e-bay about four years ago, then visited Germany that summer and found a bike shop in Essen and another in Leipzig that were stuffed with new ones! Really nice ride, but not yet C&V (or steel!, but I need to ride a plastic or ally bike every now and again to remind me how good steel really feels!) It's snowing outside so I'll see if I have a photo on this computer....
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These are all I could find, mine's the frame on the right - now built up with full Campag, sorry no up to date or drive side photos - rides well, especially up hills.
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East germanys "Diamant" is not equal to belgian Diamant!

Link to german bicycles today:
https://www.bike-fitline.com/fahrradh...eutschland.htm

Link to old and new Companys

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrradhersteller
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there were and are some rather small german bicycle builders like leto, rickert, kotter, schmidt sport, hami short for hans mittendorf, wechsel, stollenwerk, hertel, pyttel, krabo, gesta, technobull, lüders, hans lutz, nöll, norwid, herkelmann, jaeckel, enik, bauer, altinger, patria, rufa-sport, lauer, buschkamp, gudereit....
and there were some rather big manufacturers like schauff, corratec, kettler, kalkhoff....
but neither of those were very prominent, although some of those mentioned made very good frames...
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Can anybody tell me more about this bike? I saw it on craigslist, the owner claimed it was a German brand named otto klein.

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I've got the humble remains of a "Jaguar" 10 speed in the basement. Not really fancy. Kinda looks like it was made by robots from Yugoslavia. it had plastic simplex deraillers and cottered cranks. When I tried to flip it on CL I got one of those nasty "RE:your stupid Jaguar is a piece of crap" postings (what provokes people to do that?). He then included a link to a really obscure site that told all about how bad they were (He must have spent some time looking). The best reply I could come up with was "what do you care, it's got horizontal dropouts".



BTW, it's up for grabs.
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Old 02-01-09, 08:27 PM
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...the germans

Hi,
I have a "Albuch Kotter" they use to sell frames from Romani /Pistrada under her label. Albuch Kotter started as "Kotter" only and before that they run under "Kondor". I used to ride as well an "Enik" bicycle, this company offered low-end & high-end road cycles last one known as "S4". My is a low end "karstadtstyle" r.i.p.
As well I know steel manufactors "Polrad" (hyperlink lead you to a list, just scroll down you will find nice german vintage steel bikes) & "Büchner" "Lüders" in Berlin
"Scheral" & "Altinger" in Munich
"Bushkamp" "Jaekel" in Bielefeld
"PYTTEL" ! in Raststatt
"Walter" in Offenburg
"Marshall Framework" in Möhnsee
"Hanz Lutz"
"Köthke"
"Mifa"
"Bauer"
"Stölpel"
"Agresti" in Rodgau
"Paupitz"
"RUFA - Rudolf Faust"
"Nöll"
"Rickert"
"Lindemeier"
"Wechsel"

"Mittendorf"
"Krautscheit Krabo" in Bochum
"Gesta"
"Rixie"
"Rabeneick"
"Lauer" in Altenkirchen
"Patria"
"Generator Radsport"...




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Staiger is apparently an old line German brand. I have seen one older single speed Staiger in the window of a closed store in Mansfield, OH back around 2000. At the time I would have guessed it to be from the early 60's based on the style. I have a relatively new one that is a trekking bike from around 2003.

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I had a Rickert track bike back in the 70's. Very nice construction. Wish I still had it.

Also had a Rixie with fenders and lighting. Sold that one to my neighbor at a garage sale we had a few years ago. I think I might see if he still has it and try to buy it back. Never seen him ride it.
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I see German bikes show up periodically on Craigslist, but they're usually more the Dutch-bicycle type, single speed, etc. One thing that works against them is that they're uncommon here, so people assume they're "rare" and want more money for them, even if they're common as dirt in Germany.

My dad was in Germany from 1952-1964 or so. He rode a single speed. I forget the brand, but he said at the time he bought it, used, the local company that made it was already out of business.
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I see German bikes show up periodically on Craigslist, but they're usually more the Dutch-bicycle type, single speed, etc. One thing that works against them is that they're uncommon here, so people assume they're "rare" and want more money for them, even if they're common as dirt in Germany.

My dad was in Germany from 1952-1964 or so. He rode a single speed. I forget the brand, but he said at the time he bought it, used, the local company that made it was already out of business.

yeah but its not that simple...just cause they are german road cycles they are not common as dirt here. For christ sake! A customer is a customer is a customer wh*re.
So, by the time germans where on a hype about road cycling they preferred foreign cycles (italian mostly, sure). The market here was dominatet by italian/french stalion. Most hand crafted german frames are rare and where high price even then. Most people choose the foreign trademarks then the german for no objektive reason. Guess it was different if we talk about 30-50's. They where just some big companies around which had the ability to produce or let produce frames for the big market.
German frame builder supported strong teams and so on but they had no chance to get a sureplus in the common peoples mind like italian brands did. That was one reason for some companies give road frames a italian touch by the name, just like Brügelman did with "Barelli" or Radsport "Lenzen" ---> "Lenzini". In the fifties has "Grunow" produced frames by the name "Pagelli"

So that an old Rickert is pricy is not because that not many make it abroad it's because they are rare even here.


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Gudereit made road bikes with classic features and decent gruppos. Perhaps they´re still around.
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https://www.gudereit.de/ see for yourself...This is whats left of the bigger german bike producers which where known to produce decent steel road/track cycles...Oh Kotter is closed since ~2000 but actually it was a romani

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My uncle talked about bicycles many years ago...to him there is no such thing as a German cycle.
All the German bicycles were imported from Holland (he still lives in Haarlem and think WWII) and yes he was joking

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by the way does "faggin" sounds strange in some sense to you englisch motherlanguage americans or native tongues ?

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sure about the BMW? Cause those things where mostly produced for advertisment where expensive and you wont find lots of people riding those brands. Its sort of a gimmick for yuppies like the porsche cycles and other car related crap of this time...


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Originally Posted by no*dice
sure about the BMW? Cause those things where mostly produced for advertisment where expensive and you wont find lots of people riding those brands. Its sort of a gimmick for yuppies like the porsche cycles and other car related crap of this time...


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Maybe, but that demountable rear triangle is a really neat touch!
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BMW didn`t produce that low-budget bike, it is a Montague.
https://www.montagueco.com/
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after the Montague, BMW actually used their own development resources for bicycles. There was a MTB-line with a front suspension based on their motorcycle design

and a racing bike
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