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Old 05-21-19, 01:28 PM
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Used E-bikes worth ?

Hi.What do u think about used e bikes? I worry about batteries after buy it. Should i buy a new one? Do u think that it s risky? Im planning to work for uber eats and etc.

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Old 05-21-19, 01:34 PM
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IMO, since the battery is the most expensive component, it's extremely risky (maybe dangerous depending on the source of the battery) to purchase a used e-bike unless you know something of its history (or know how to test it). Some very knowledgeable individuals on endless sphere suggest assuming the battery is toast when negotiating.
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Old 05-21-19, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2old View Post
IMO, since the battery is the most expensive component, it's extremely risky (maybe dangerous depending on the source of the battery) to purchase a used e-bike unless you know something of its history (or know how to test it). Some very knowledgeable individuals on endless sphere suggest assuming the battery is toast when negotiating.
Thanks for the answer. I also wonder e bike or scooter? What are the differenties u think?
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Old 05-21-19, 02:29 PM
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A dead scooter, the customer goes hungry. A dead ebike, he might not get hot food, but you can still pedal to his address.
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I see previously expensive E-Bikes sold for pennies on the dollar with missing or dead batteries.

Perhaps check:

Battery type:
  • Lead Acid
  • NiCad
  • NiMH
  • Lithium
  • Etc.

Charger and type?

Interface?

Can you purchase replacement batteries and components?

Do you wish to hack something together on your own?

Hardware tool batteries?

I just purchased a little electric chainsaw & lawnmower. 40V, 4 AH modular battery packs. It looks like some E-Bike Batteries have similar voltages, but higher AH rating. Nonetheless, a lot will depend on your actual needs.

Keep in mind.

Serial connections ==> More volts
Parallel connections ==> More Amps or AH.
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Old 05-21-19, 03:36 PM
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BA: In California, Class 1, 2 & 3 ebikes (basically 20 mph PAS, 20 mph throttle, and 28 mph PAS, respectively) are not considered motorized vehicles, require neither license nor insurance and (as noted above) can be ridden without the motor. AFAIK, none of these considerations apply to escooters.
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Old 05-21-19, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
I see previously expensive E-Bikes sold for pennies on the dollar with missing or dead batteries.

Perhaps check:

Battery type:
  • Lead Acid
  • NiCad
  • NiMH
  • Lithium
  • Etc.

Charger and type?

Interface?

Can you purchase replacement batteries and components?

Do you wish to hack something together on your own?

Hardware tool batteries?

I just purchased a little electric chainsaw & lawnmower. 40V, 4 AH modular battery packs. It looks like some E-Bike Batteries have similar voltages, but higher AH rating. Nonetheless, a lot will depend on your actual needs.

Keep in mind.

Serial connections ==> More volts
Parallel connections ==> More Amps or AH.
Thanks for answer. Today I walked around and visited some e-bike stores. They adviced me these bikes what do u think?

https://www.trekbikes.com/ca/en_CA/b...verve/p/17470/

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/ca/quick-eplus

https://www.amegoev.com/amego-amego-infinite.html

Actually i m looking for delivery. So I can up to 90 km in a day. I didnt visit any scooter e bike store yet.
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Old 05-22-19, 04:44 AM
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Hi you should consider the type of foods and drinks you will be delivering and the condition the order will be in when you get to the destination.
I know if I ordered let says a big mac value meal with a large coke and a chocolate shake from Uber Eats and you showed up on a eBike I would be pissed because my order in my opinion would be wrecked. I am pretty sure no fast food drinks would survive a trip on a ebike.

This being said if you found a way to make or buy a shock absorbing basket with separate hot cold sections and could deliver these food items as intended you are going to want a ebike that you can work on at home and not worry about warranties or propitiatory software and or service manuals that may not be available to the general public.

My only experience with ebikes has been with 2 A2B Alva+ bikes I purchased new from my local bike store they cost alot of money yet the warranty was a joke, The shop that sold and serviced these bikes had no clue no service manual and everything that was needed to repair these bikes over time was provided as used parts that came off of donor bikes that had to be shipped in from around the USA and sometimes overseas.

I found out that with A2B and perhaps other manufactures they make a run of each model bike and perhaps some spare parts get made but they may not make every single consumable part you may need either under warranty or even as a customer pay item.

A few examples my wifes A2B hit a bump and the magnetic connector that holds the power cable to the battery jolted loose for a split second then reconnected the battery went into protection mode rendering it useless. There was nothing I could do or the service center could do to get this brand new battery working again. they were going to have to have it sent overseas to be reset since the factory was the only place that had the equipment to do this job. instead the sent us after 3 weeks a used scratched up battery with who knows how many hours and charging cycles on it.
After I refused that battery it took another 3 weeks to get another battery that was supposed to be new but I had no way of knowing for sure since the box was opened when they handed it to me.

Then after all this another hard bump could have caused the problem all over again.

The A2Bs had large hub mounted motors with short spokes, because of the large motor the angle of the spokes were at a unnatural angle which caused the spokes to brake often and the wheel would get out of round very quickly.

You would think a consumable item like spokes would be plentiful for a bike under warranty, no the spokes they they put in my bike were all used off of a donor bike and already weakened from use.

My point is if you can get away with a eBike for deliveries which I doubt you can you will want a ebike that you built with plenty of spare parts available and on board with you while riding.
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Old 05-22-19, 07:21 AM
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You can't go wrong with Trek or Giant. IMO. However 90 km a day means four hours in the saddle and probably needing to recharge your battery somewhere in between (although that range is possible on lower assist levels). You might be a candidate for a scooter even (dare I say) an ICE model.
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I agree, 90km is ambitious.

The Amego lists "The 624 Wh lithium battery provides upto 105 KM per charge on level 1 assistance." I.E. low power. But, perhaps that is what you need.

Some of the batteries are easily removable. I think the Bosch can be easily removed, and you could swap in a spare (which, of course, isn't cheap).

You've got a few choices. > $2000 or $3000, all new tech.

< $1000. Old tech. Perhaps needing some work. Needing new battery. Are the parts available? Modern Lithium battery? How much tinkering do you wish to do?

When you add the battery, prices will go up quickly.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
I agree, 90km is ambitious.

The Amego lists "The 624 Wh lithium battery provides upto 105 KM per charge on level 1 assistance." I.E. low power. But, perhaps that is what you need.

Some of the batteries are easily removable. I think the Bosch can be easily removed, and you could swap in a spare (which, of course, isn't cheap).

You've got a few choices. > $2000 or $3000, all new tech.

< $1000. Old tech. Perhaps needing some work. Needing new battery. Are the parts available? Modern Lithium battery? How much tinkering do you wish to do?

When you add the battery, prices will go up quickly.
I will get extra battery %100. Just i wonder why e bikes price so different.. i mean both brands models batteries same. One of describe says its only 50km range ones 140km.. price difference almost 1k-1.5k.

U can check giant and amego. U will see what i tell u.
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Old 05-23-19, 03:09 PM
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GenZe makes scooters for food delivery, the factory is in Ann Arbor Michigan. They also make e-bikes which they sell under the Peugeot brand. I had a factory tour and the scooter looked like a very well thought out setup for food delivery. They offer them with warming ovens on the back, and a rack mounted charger so the pizza store can have a row of batteries ready to swap as needed. Probably way more investment than you'd even earn back, driving for Uber Eats, though. The Peugeot e-bikes were basic and not the latest tech, but they looked solid and you'd have backing from a large company - GenZe is part of Mahindra, which is huge. When I was there last year they were putting together a large order of ebikes for Costco. So they are out there.

A search for "genze" brings them right up...
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Old 05-23-19, 04:18 PM
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Depending on your actual needs, there are also a number of electric cargo bikes. Long tail, long nose, or trike based.

They can be very expensive, but could really work well for a small delivery company.
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Old 05-29-19, 01:59 AM
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Why you are thinking that used by e-bike is worth?
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Old 07-17-19, 09:31 PM
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Try searching on eBay.
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Old 07-19-19, 12:56 AM
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Check weight, some are freaking heavy bikes itself not to mention battery weight...
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