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Old 03-06-19, 09:17 PM
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Strap tire under seat?

I want to carry a tire under my seat on my next 200km. I researched straps a bit and they all seemed to be designed to carry an extra tube & CO2 carriage. (I want to avoid a DIY solution.)
Is there a product out there specifically for strapping a folding tire under the seat?
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Topeak Tri-Backup Tirebag?
https://www.topeak.com/global/en/pro...backup-tirebag

But honestly, I've seen people do it with just some simple Velcro straps. Not sure why you're adverse to DIY solutions.
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Originally Posted by atwl77 View Post
Topeak Tri-Backup Tirebag?
But honestly, I've seen people do it with just some simple Velcro straps. Not sure why you're adverse to DIY solutions.
Well, maybe I should re-visit the velcro strap idea. What I have found is I over pack for these rides; I just take to much dare stuff. I am trying to simplify. (and maybe getting over concerned with the whole weight concern).
So, the straps my be the solution. I have read a lot of posts indicating many riders don't feel the need to carry a tire for rides of 200k and under. I just dont want to be that poor fella at mile 75, way out in the middle of no where on the cell phone calling for someone to come pick me up.
Amazon has a pack of 10 velcro straps of varying lengths for under $10. I think I try this first.
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Originally Posted by atwl77 View Post
Topeak Tri-Backup Tirebag?
https://www.topeak.com/global/en/pro...backup-tirebag

But honestly, I've seen people do it with just some simple Velcro straps. Not sure why you're adverse to DIY solutions.
Ugly? Always comes to my mind.
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Did it all the time in my days of riding sewups. Just used a toe strap......
Should be fine with a folding tire.
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I would go with the toeclip strap or more likely just use a seat bag big enough to hold a tire along with whatever other stuff I felt like bringing along on a 200k.
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I've seen people use toeclip straps for carrying tires, tubes or clothing behind the saddle. It's kind of old school.

But is it necessary? Personally, I almost never carry a spare tire on a long ride, even doing a 600 km, though I do carry two spare tubes at all times. On the roads I normally travel punctures are extremely rare with the wide 650B tires I use: I have had a total of 2 punctures in the 37 months / 23,400 km (14,500 mi) that I've been riding my Elephant NFE. In 60,000 km (37,000 mi) in the past 7 years I have never had to abandon a ride because of a tire cut. I have only punctured in a brevet once, 16 km (10 mi) from the end of a 400 km event and I could replace the tube in time to still make it to the goal under the time limit. Depending on where you ride and what kind of tires you use YMMV of course.

The only time I took a spare tire with me was when a friend and I rode an abandoned mountain road closed to all traffic. I had been warned about the road conditions there. Many rock slides over the past decade had littered that course with sharp edged gravel and for several kilometers the road resembled a dry river bed more than a proper road. Still, I had no issues there.
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Old 03-07-19, 06:30 AM
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Ok, lets just say I am going on a 20,000km ride across glass filled roads.........the point of the post, was to find a solution to carrying a tire, rather than debate if I should bring one.
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
Ugly? Always comes to my mind.
Ugly indeed, but if I were to carry a spare tire, I'd want to protect it from the elements like I do my spare tube.

I'd put it in the bottom of my handlebar bag, so it wouldn't need the extra weight of straps or pouches.
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Years ago a bit of sand in a tire eventually caused a hole to develop in a tube several hours later. I would suggest you carry the tire in some form of bag to keep dirt from getting on the tire. For bike touring I put my spare tire in a ziplock, that sits in the bottom of a pannier. I also carry my tubes in zip locks for the same reason. Off topic, but I put a little talc in the tube ziplocks along with some tyvek cut from a postal service envelope in event I need a tire boot.
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This might do the trick if you don't already have that space occupied:
https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FTBII
Note that not all tires are the same size folded, so it depends on what tire you're using. (Your spare can be a size smaller than your normal road tire).
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trailangel beat me to it. Great little bag. BITD tubulars were way more flexible and you could get two into one of these bags. Folding clincher and a couple tubes no problem. Two zipped side pockets is always useful. These have been around unchanged for forty years and do the job. The price just got raised but still a deal and solidly built.
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I was unaware you could still buy a tubular tire bag like that. I have one in storage somewhere, several years ago I loaned the bag to a neighbor to carry a spare folding tire in it, 25mm or 28mm. Mine has the REI logo on it.
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Originally Posted by gorillimo View Post
Did it all the time in my days of riding sewups. Just used a toe strap......
Should be fine with a folding tire.
Yes, absolutely the correct way to carry a spare tire.

I'd recommend a quality leather one. Christophe?

At one time I had a bag to carry the sewups in. Perhaps a two sided bag with one side for tools, and one side for the tire. But, I think it still might have been secured with the ubiquitous toe strap.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
Ugly indeed, but if I were to carry a spare tire, I'd want to protect it from the elements like I do my spare tube.

I'd put it in the bottom of my handlebar bag, so it wouldn't need the extra weight of straps or pouches.
If you fold the tire like we did back in the day with sewups. there is very little tire insides ever seeing the elements/ See https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ular-tire.html post #4 . (Thank you DiabloScott.) Toestraps work just fine. (I see that the gurus Sheldon Brown and Jobst Brandt predict a fate worse than death doing that fold. I'd been doing exactly that for 23 years when that was posted.)

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If you fold the tire like we did back in the day with sewups. there is very little tire insides ever seeing the elements/ See https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ular-tire.html post #4 . (Thank you DiabloScott.) Toestraps work just fine. (I see that the gurus Sheldon Brown and Jobst Brandt predict a fate worse than death doing that fold. I'd been doing exactly that for 23 years when that was posted.)

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Yeah, the @DiabloScott tire fold is a thing of beauty. I don't know if you could tuck away all the vulnerable parts of a clincher as well, though. Maybe...
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Yeah, the @DiabloScott tire fold is a thing of beauty. I don't know if you could tuck away all the vulnerable parts of a clincher as well, though. Maybe...
Oh sure. Clinchers fold neater. Try it. It will take you a few tries to get the fold locations right.

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I like to have a bag. I used to carry my spare tubular in a wool sock. Then I got a cannondale bag about the same size which transitioned nicely when I started using only clinchers. Right now I have giant bags on all my rando bikes to stow clothing. I suppose it isn't quite as necessary for summertime 200k's, but there are only a couple of those per year.
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I use an Orlieb large saddle bag. It has a strap on top specifically for that purpose. Having a large bag doesn't mean you have to fill it. OTOH, having a large enough bag might mean you'll bring what you need. I see a lot of those bags around here. The tiny amount of bag weight is a non-issue.
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givin' it a try

I plan to take the bike out tomorrow to see if the tire is stable with these straps.



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I'm in the midst of preparing for my 600k this weekend and was experimenting with a couple of load-out options. Anyway, just posting to show how some tires can actually be optimized a lot for space:



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@atwl77 Your technique looks a lot cleaner than mine. I think i need to re-vist that mess of a folding job
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You can wrap them pretty tight with a few zip ties.
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get a set of velcro straps on Amazon. They come in several lengths and you can try which one or set of them work best for your application. Did this on a 130 mile mountain bike ride and everything stayed put. Personally, I dont consider this DIY.
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