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Old 04-04-19, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Narhay View Post
If you sell a part you remove from the bike, you may add the sale price to your budget. You actually have to find a real buyer for your ****e to gain a few sheckles
Sounds like the 24 Hours of Lemons rules here - good stuff.

Question 1: What if I want to build something in a pile of bikes that cost me over $100, but I have documentation to show that I sold off enough of the lot that my starting price is under $100? Would that suffice?

Just considering the alternatives before jumping into the frying pan here - I just walked into four projects today (in a single lot) that could all fill the bill. I don't think I can swing a fifth, and I'm not really keen on riding the wheel-less Specialized RockHopper that a neighbor gave me (that'd be just way too easy - it's complete save for wheels, and the LBS gave me a pair of wheels that'd work - I'd have all but $5 in replacement spokes into the thing).

Question 2: Is there a side category for overeager mechanics that can enter multiple sub-$100 bikes, and simultaneously disqualify themselves for not riding all the bikes 62 miles?

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Which one(ones) to choose?? I have been looking forward to this challenge for a while.
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posting just so i can keep track of this thread and follow it. good luck everyone
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Sounds like the 24 Hours of Lemons rules here - good stuff.

Question 1: What if I want to build something in a pile of bikes that cost me over $100, but I have documentation to show that I sold off enough of the lot that my starting price is under $100? Would that suffice?

Just considering the alternatives before jumping into the frying pan here - I just walked into four projects today (in a single lot) that could all fill the bill. I don't think I can swing a fifth, and I'm not really keen on riding the wheel-less Specialized RockHopper that a neighbor gave me (that'd be just way too easy - it's complete save for wheels, and the LBS gave me a pair of wheels that'd work - I'd have all but $5 in replacement spokes into the thing).

Question 2: Is there a side category for overeager mechanics that can enter multiple sub-$100 bikes, and simultaneously disqualify themselves for not riding all the bikes 62 miles?

-Kurt
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I like these rules.

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Ive gone through old PMs, and deleted Craigslist ads. Turns out that for my $100 purchase, I sold $130 worth of parts between last November, and March. That number reflects established value of parts sold after shipping costs.

Selling both derailleurs, three chainrings, both hubs, both skewers, the freewheel, shift levers, brake levers, and a rear caliper, left me with a free frameset, stem, bars, and 30 bucks in the pocket.

So, @Narhay last stipulation to work out here. Do I have what is a free bit of clunker material to work with? Or do I have clunker material AND a $30 credit towards the build?
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I have had a hankering, for no logical reason, to find an early 90's hybrid to build up as a bullet proof Commuter; Schwinn CrissCross, Specialized Cross roads,Trek multi track, Nishiki Ambush, Diamond back approach etc.. Steel, (some lugged) 700c wheels, slack angles, etc. Might try to find one for the challenge and then build it up after. I found a MTB in good shape for $80 last year which almost felt like cheating so I need to try something different this time.
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Originally Posted by deux jambes View Post
Ive gone through old PMs, and deleted Craigslist ads. Turns out that for my $100 purchase, I sold $130 worth of parts between last November, and March. That number reflects established value of parts sold after shipping costs.

Selling both derailleurs, three chainrings, both hubs, both skewers, the freewheel, shift levers, brake levers, and a rear caliper, left me with a free frameset, stem, bars, and 30 bucks in the pocket.

So, @Narhay last stipulation to work out here. Do I have what is a free bit of clunker material to work with? Or do I have clunker material AND a $30 credit towards the build?
The idea is you make your $100 go as far as possible. If that means a free bike and another 30 to add to budget then so be it. Just because you are being clever with the budget doesn't require penalization.
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Originally Posted by ryansu View Post
I have had a hankering, for no logical reason, to find an early 90's hybrid to build up as a bullet proof Commuter; Schwinn CrissCross, Specialized Cross roads,Trek multi track, Nishiki Ambush, Diamond back approach etc.. Steel, (some lugged) 700c wheels, slack angles, etc. Might try to find one for the challenge and then build it up after. I found a MTB in good shape for $80 last year which almost felt like cheating so I need to try something different this time.
Do it. All the reasons are logical.
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Do it. All the reasons are logical.
Fascinating.

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I would like to do this , is there a dead line as to when you need to start? How old dose the bike need to be? Thanks
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I would like to do this , is there a dead line as to when you need to start? How old dose the bike need to be? Thanks
It already started.
Still waiting for @Narhay to specify the "exact" ending date/time.
There is no age limit, just a price limit. Read the "rules".
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Update: The Jeunet is still there at the co-op, and I had the wisdom to put a 'save' tag on it. I looked it over and the bike is literally almost 100% steel. The handlebars, the seatpost, the wheels, the cranks, etc. I think the only aluminum bit s were brakes, levers, and maybe (?) chainrings. The bike was in the 'strip' pile, which didn't make any sense. All the parts that could be stripped wouldn't really fit on anything else except an old french bike, which sort of defeats the purpose, and the rest of the parts wouldn't be worth saving anyway.

I was going to ask about purchasing it or working it off, but today wasn't the day. Will wait for the owner to be in a happy mood and go from there
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So, If I remove a rear wheel worth $25, and replace it with one worth $75, that's been in the shed for a few years, can I claim a "cost" of $50 ?
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I ought to able to make something out of this, right?

March a good month for bike stuff. Found a few frames and parts for free, and then a friend asked me to rehab and build up the Bianchi frame in there for him... payment, three other partial bikes he had laying around the house. My candidate for the clubker challenge is this Azuki:

I actually rescued this bike from a junk heap five years ago, fixed it up, and sold it to a (different) friend... who rode it into the ground and then left it to rot in a back yard for four years.

My plan: Keep the drops, remove the rear wheel and drivetrain, add 7x3 indexed shifting in the form of OEM Shimano bar top "butterfly" shifters, and spread the rear triangle to 135 so I can wedge in some mismatched 700c hybrid wheels. I have a nicer frame I plan to cold set so this one will be practice. Then I'm gonna put a rack and a basket on and ride to Mississippi.

Looking at the bike, I think the brake pads might not have enough adjustment to reach 700c rims. So maybe I'll be making some drop bolts. I'll post in progress pictures as I work on it, but I have to clear out a couple other beaters first! I anticipate swift progress in May when I'm done with school.

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As previously stated I was thinking Hybrid for this years challenge and even had a line on a Trek 700 for $75. I went to the local co-op today looking for a seat post and stopped in at the warehouse, just to look, and I spotted this.. and since I have never owned a bike made of the mythical metal I was intrigued



Hey now

I could see it was a Trek but it had a fade paint job I had never seen on a Trek, not that I am expert, and the top tube said Cirrus which was not a model I was familiar with hmmm, and its my size and then I see


and the sticker says



Oh yeah! come to Papa!!

So here we are and after some brake adjustment some air in the tires a little saddle and stem adjust. And the addition of some no name pedals and a bottle cage - I figure 3 bucks for the lot out of my parts bin, I am $78 in and have done a 1 km shake down cruise. Aside from the replacement rear wheel and FW it all appears to be an otherwise Original 1987 Trek Cirrus 520.



Test ride time
Clunker indeed - Pinch me. The SIS Indexing even works!

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What crankset is that, I have been looking for one like that for a while now.
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Took my potential clunker out for a shakedown cruise.
After a two day WD40 soak, it broke down two times in the first 2K.
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Some good stuff in this thread already. A Trek 520, and a Schwinn Cimarron. The Univega buried under Classtime's pile of free bikes is pretty decen too.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Fascinating.

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I did one myself last fall and have about 1,000 miles on it and Im very satisfied. Most people seem to be quite pleased with the conversion.

Edit: had I been thriftier with my conversion, it would have come in under $100 total, I paid $25 for the bike, a 700 Multitrack.
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After some back and forth consideration, and checking in with the famed facilitator of challenged clunkers, Im officially submitting, and committing.

My entry as found, and purchased for exactly $100 last autumn...




A French frame of unknown manufacturer, and its replacement Gitane Interclub fork. Ive removed, and sold all of its components except for what remains as seen here (bars too, still have those though not pictured)...




Actually the steel Regida noise maker rims were donated, but net profit from the sold parts is calculated at $130 resulting in a free frameset, and a budget credit of $30.

Well see how it builds, but Im thinking cheap, quick, and dirty is the way!

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What crankset is that, I have been looking for one like that for a while now.
It's a Sugino Maxy. 54/47 chainrings, the big ring is swaged to the crankarm, and looking closely at it the driveside arm is 165mm and the NDS is 171.
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Originally Posted by deux jambes View Post
After some back and forth consideration, and checking in with the famed facilitator of challenged clunkers, Im officially submitting, and committing.

My entry as found, and purchased for exactly $100 last autumn...




A French frame of unknown manufacturer, and its replacement Gitane Interclub fork. Ive removed, and sold all of its components except for what remains as seen here (bars too, still have those though not pictured)...




Actually the steel Regida noise maker rims were donated, but net profit from the sold parts is calculated at $130 resulting in a free frameset, and a budget credit of $30.

Well see how it builds, but Im thinking cheap, quick, and dirty is the way!
Bon Chance!
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My current go to bike is my UO10.
If I were to put it on craigslist, I'd be surprised if someone gave me a hundred bucks for it.
I also have a Grand Touring frame, that's missing it's drive train because I stole the components
for my Grand Julbilee. I could put it back together with parts off my work bench I'd have a bike that I paid
less than a hundred total, for parts.

But if I used either. it would feel like cheating, because if anyone called them clunkers,
I might hit them.
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Originally Posted by ryansu View Post
As previously stated I was thinking Hybrid for this years challenge and even had a line on a Trek 700 for $75. I went to the local co-op today looking for a seat post and stopped in at the warehouse, just to look, and I spotted this.. and since I have never owned a bike made of the mythical metal I was intrigued



Hey now

I could see it was a Trek but it had a fade paint job I had never seen on a Trek, not that I am expert, and the top tube said Cirrus which was not a model I was familiar with hmmm, and its my size and then I see


and the sticker says



Oh yeah! come to Papa!!

So here we are and after some brake adjustment some air in the tires a little saddle and stem adjust. And the addition of some no name pedals and a bottle cage - I figure 3 bucks for the lot out of my parts bin, I am $78 in and have done a 1 km shake down cruise. Aside from the replacement rear wheel and FW it all appears to be an otherwise Original 1987 Trek Cirrus 520.



Test ride time
Clunker indeed - Pinch me. The SIS Indexing even works!

Im envious! The drop bar hybrid has hidden longings to be a 520 anyway, youve spared yourself much time and money for a superior product!
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