Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Cool footage from this year's Paris-Roubaix

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Cool footage from this year's Paris-Roubaix

Old 04-16-19, 12:56 PM
  #1  
Oldguyonoldbike
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Oldguyonoldbike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 625

Bikes: Colnago Tecnos, Ciöcc Exige, Black Mountain Cycles Road

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Cool footage from this year's Paris-Roubaix

Rider's-eye-view of just how tough this race is:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...ix-2019-420149
Oldguyonoldbike is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 01:39 PM
  #2  
rollagain
Lopsided biped
 
rollagain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 437

Bikes: 2017 Day 6 Cyclone (the Buick); 2015 Simcoe Deluxe (the Xebec); Street Strider 3i (the not-a-bike)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 182 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I tried the link but it asked me to sign up for something, so ... here's another.


Evidently, cycle racing would be horrifically boring if it didn't have crashes.

Riders ride on the grass to avoid having to use the cobblestone pavement ... makes me wonder if they could go faster on a softer-riding bike, using the road.

Also wonder what this race would be like without the extensive support, such as entire spare bikes. A totally unsupported race could be interesting; I imagine the attrition would be pretty high.
rollagain is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 02:27 PM
  #3  
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 41,398

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 188 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6839 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 218 Times in 181 Posts
the official website shows they taped their fingers before starting, and untaped them in the Roubaix showers..
fietsbob is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 02:31 PM
  #4  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 22,889

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r

Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3039 Post(s)
Liked 124 Times in 101 Posts
brutal
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 03:09 PM
  #5  
TimothyH
- Soli Deo Gloria -
 
TimothyH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,175

Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix

Mentioned: 222 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6477 Post(s)
Liked 379 Times in 243 Posts
Looks like a normal Saturday gravel ride to me.

Except we try not to crash as much.


-Tim-
TimothyH is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 03:22 PM
  #6  
Tombaatar
Senior Member
 
Tombaatar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 203

Bikes: 2017 Specialized Sequoia 88 Diamondback Apex, 89 Trek 400, 85 Specialized Rock Hopper

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I like to think that each one of them are making a guttural "uhhhhhhhh" sound as they ride over the cobbles. That's what I would do.
Tombaatar is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 08:07 PM
  #7  
Slightspeed
Senior Member
 
Slightspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,570

Bikes: 1961 Legnano Gran Premio, 1964 Legnano Roma Olympiade, 1973 Raleigh Super Course, 1978 Raleigh Super Course, 1978 Peugeot PR10, 2002 Specialized Allez, 2007 Specialized Roubaix, 2013 Culprit Croz Blade

Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 494 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 78 Times in 57 Posts
I tried to watch last night's highlight show on NBC Sports. There was some hockey game on, which ran long, talking heads droned on, then the Paris Roubaix started. It was on my DVR, but ran out 6.9 km from the finish. I had to find another shorter highlight on YouTube, to see the finish. Hockey? Really? For a sport to be a real sport, it has to have wheels on it, like uh ... Paris Roubaix. For live races, like TDF, NASCAR or F1, I set the DVR for + 1 hour to allow for yellow flags, rain delay, etc. For a highlight show, I expect 2 hours to be two hours, not 20 minutes of hockey, talking heads, then all but 6.9 km of the race. End of rant. 😡

Last edited by Slightspeed; 04-16-19 at 08:11 PM.
Slightspeed is offline  
Old 04-16-19, 09:57 PM
  #8  
one4smoke
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Nashville, TN.
Posts: 1,504

Bikes: 2016 Specialized Roubaix SL4 - 2015 Giant Roam 2 Disc

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 410 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times in 25 Posts
Originally Posted by Slightspeed View Post
I tried to watch last night's highlight show on NBC Sports. There was some hockey game on, which ran long, talking heads droned on, then the Paris Roubaix started. It was on my DVR, but ran out 6.9 km from the finish. I had to find another shorter highlight on YouTube, to see the finish. Hockey? Really? For a sport to be a real sport, it has to have wheels on it, like uh ... Paris Roubaix. For live races, like TDF, NASCAR or F1, I set the DVR for + 1 hour to allow for yellow flags, rain delay, etc. For a highlight show, I expect 2 hours to be two hours, not 20 minutes of hockey, talking heads, then all but 6.9 km of the race. End of rant. ��
I'm with ya on that! I wanted to watch a little of it before turning in, and had to wait until the damn hockey concluded. It finally came on, so I watched a bit, then set the DVR to get the rest. Went to finish watching it today and off it went 6.9 to go. I'll be a sunuva....

If something runs long, the TV geniuses at least need to fix it where the DVR records what it's supposed to. No, I don't know how they can do that, and I don't care. Just do it.
one4smoke is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 07:24 AM
  #9  
burnthesheep
Newbie racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 902

Bikes: Propel, red is faster

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 409 Post(s)
Liked 77 Times in 51 Posts
For some of the "heavier" riders around 75kg.......they were showing power data in the range of 320w NP for 6 hours plus. Geeeeeez.
burnthesheep is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 09:55 AM
  #10  
Rick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 351
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 153 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 31 Times in 26 Posts
The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
Rick is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 12:04 PM
  #11  
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 38,042

Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1824 Post(s)
Liked 151 Times in 93 Posts
Originally Posted by Rick View Post
The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
How do you feel about feedzones?
caloso is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 12:09 PM
  #12  
Aubergine 
Bad example
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Seattle and Reims
Posts: 2,930
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 771 Post(s)
Liked 17 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by Rick View Post
The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
Well, the race is about the endurance of the humans, not the bikes.
__________________
Keeping Seattle’s bike shops in business since 1978
Aubergine is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 12:14 PM
  #13  
eja_ bottecchia
Senior Member
 
eja_ bottecchia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 5,300
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 736 Post(s)
Liked 92 Times in 70 Posts
Originally Posted by rollagain View Post
I tried the link but it asked me to sign up for something, so ... here's another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cfIjaCZ9NM

Evidently, cycle racing would be horrifically boring if it didn't have crashes.

Riders ride on the grass to avoid having to use the cobblestone pavement ... makes me wonder if they could go faster on a softer-riding bike, using the road.

Also wonder what this race would be like without the extensive support, such as entire spare bikes. A totally unsupported race could be interesting; I imagine the attrition would be pretty high.
In the early days that’s exactly how it was...high DNF rates.

I have a friend who lives in France and he has done the amateur Paris - Roubaix ride; he has also done Tourmalet and Ventoux. He says that hands down P-R is the toughest race. Those cobblestones are vicious.
eja_ bottecchia is offline  
Old 04-17-19, 03:16 PM
  #14  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by burnthesheep View Post
For some of the "heavier" riders around 75kg.......they were showing power data in the range of 320w NP for 6 hours plus. Geeeeeez.
Yeah, no kidding!
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 05:42 AM
  #15  
OldTryGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: SW Fl.
Posts: 4,397

Bikes: 1981 Custom Touring Paramount, 1983 Road Paramount, 2013 Giant Propel Advanced SL3, 2018 Specialized Red Roubaix Expert mech., 2002 Magna 7sp hybrid, 1976 Bassett Racing 45sp Cruiser

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 657 Post(s)
Liked 36 Times in 29 Posts
Originally Posted by Rick View Post
The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
Agree

Originally Posted by caloso View Post
How do you feel about feedzones?
Of course they are needed.

Originally Posted by Aubergine View Post
Well, the race is about the endurance of the humans, not the bikes.

The RACE is about MAN AND MACHINE

Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
In the early days that’s exactly how it was...high DNF rates.

I have a friend who lives in France and he has done the amateur Paris - Roubaix ride; he has also done Tourmalet and Ventoux. He says that hands down P-R is the toughest race. Those cobblestones are vicious.
WAY COOL. The Cross Florida Ride has a short OLD FLORIDA ROAD SECTION that is like Paris-Roubaix. IT IS FUN.
OldTryGuy is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 06:36 AM
  #16  
burnthesheep
Newbie racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 902

Bikes: Propel, red is faster

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 409 Post(s)
Liked 77 Times in 51 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
Yeah, no kidding!
For an idea of how unreal that is, I'm your local Cat 4/5 pack fodder and dabble in time trial and running.

I know that's their NP and not actual average, so it's inflated for the surges, but if you put a gun to my head I could probably only toss 320 for about 8 minutes before I pop. Maybe 20min by the end of the year.

Dudes doing that much for like 1/4 of an entire 24 hour day.

I get that they ride like 25 hours a week, but still.
burnthesheep is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 10:47 AM
  #17  
superdex
staring at the mountains
 
superdex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parker, CO
Posts: 4,283

Bikes: Fairdale Goodship, Spesh Crux

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 277 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 15 Posts
Originally Posted by Slightspeed View Post
I tried to watch last night's highlight show on NBC Sports. There was some hockey game on, which ran long, talking heads droned on, then the Paris Roubaix started. It was on my DVR, but ran out 6.9 km from the finish. I had to find another shorter highlight on YouTube, to see the finish. Hockey? Really? For a sport to be a real sport, it has to have wheels on it, like uh ... Paris Roubaix. For live races, like TDF, NASCAR or F1, I set the DVR for + 1 hour to allow for yellow flags, rain delay, etc. For a highlight show, I expect 2 hours to be two hours, not 20 minutes of hockey, talking heads, then all but 6.9 km of the race. End of rant. 😡
First of all, it's NHL playoffs. ain't NOTHING like playoff hockey. So what's a guy to do to get both fixes? NBC sports gold. On sale right now for $20. You get the rest of their coverage until Le Tour, when it renews for like $50. Totally worth it.

https://www.nbcsports.com/gold/cycli...packages_tiles
superdex is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 11:03 AM
  #18  
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit/AA
Posts: 8,139

Bikes: 2016 Novara Mazama

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3590 Post(s)
Liked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by Tombaatar View Post
I like to think that each one of them are making a guttural "uhhhhhhhh" sound as they ride over the cobbles. That's what I would do.
+1

Originally Posted by Rick View Post
The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
+2. Like car racing, it is one thing to replace "consumable" type items, it is another thing completely to swap out the entire vehicle for another. Bike breaks in an irreparable failure? Oh well, DNF for you. Build a better bike next time.

Originally Posted by superdex View Post
First of all, it's NHL playoffs. ain't NOTHING like playoff hockey. So what's a guy to do to get both fixes? NBC sports gold. On sale right now for $20. You get the rest of their coverage until Le Tour, when it renews for like $50. Totally worth it.

https://www.nbcsports.com/gold/cycli...packages_tiles
Sarcasm?

Originally Posted by Aubergine View Post
Well, the race is about the endurance of the humans, not the bikes.
Well then why not give them all identical bikes and eliminate feedzones?
jefnvk is offline  
Old 04-18-19, 02:52 PM
  #19  
superdex
staring at the mountains
 
superdex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parker, CO
Posts: 4,283

Bikes: Fairdale Goodship, Spesh Crux

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 277 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 15 Posts
Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
+1


+2. Like car racing, it is one thing to replace "consumable" type items, it is another thing completely to swap out the entire vehicle for another. Bike breaks in an irreparable failure? Oh well, DNF for you. Build a better bike next time.
sounds like the PBP threads are more your speed. Horses for courses. Cheers!
superdex is offline  
Old 04-19-19, 10:55 AM
  #20  
rydabent
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lincoln Ne
Posts: 7,523

Bikes: RANS Stratus TerraTrike Tour II

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1323 Post(s)
Liked 21 Times in 18 Posts
If you are not racing, why not carry everything you think you will need to keep you from walking home?
rydabent is offline  
Old 04-20-19, 01:51 AM
  #21  
ExPatTyke
Senior Member
 
ExPatTyke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, UK
Posts: 236

Bikes: Gitane Course, Peugeot Premiere, Peugeot ANC Halfords Team Replica, Peugeot Festina Team Replica, Motobecane Grand Sport, Raleigh Pro Race, Raleigh Stratos, Barrucuda Azzurri, Harlem Altitude, Ideal Race Pro, BSA

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I was lucky enough to ride the Paris Roubaix Challenge last Saturday. I rode an old Peugeot, so I put up a full post in the C&V section if anyone wants to read it.

The thing about riding the pave is that it is unlike anything else. I'd ridden a few strips of cobbles and unmade road locally as preparation but they were nothing like the pave. The cobbles on the pave are large and very uneven, and the surface of the pave is rutted with frequent potholes and dips; the drop from the crown to the ruts is frequently over a foot on a road that's not much more than 6 foot wide.

The advice is to ride as close to the crown as possible - potholes and projecting stones permitting - while turning the highest gear you can. With the resistance from the cobbles that takes a huge amount of energy, and after 2km of pave the legs are burning.

Watching the pro's on Sunday going over one of the same sections of pave I'd ridden the day before was awesome, and a real eye opener about the level they're on.
ExPatTyke is offline  
Likes For ExPatTyke:
Old 04-20-19, 04:56 AM
  #22  
GrainBrain
Senior Member
 
GrainBrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Central Io-way
Posts: 1,236

Bikes: LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 647 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 35 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
Originally Posted by superdex View Post
First of all, it's NHL playoffs. ain't NOTHING like playoff hockey. So what's a guy to do to get both fixes? NBC sports gold. On sale right now for $20. You get the rest of their coverage until Le Tour, when it renews for like $50. Totally worth it.

https://www.nbcsports.com/gold/cycli...packages_tiles
​Sarcasm?
I dunno if it's sarcasm but I purchased it last year just for all the cycling coverage and it's worth it for me as well. We don't watch TV or Hulu/Netflix/Prime etc. So technically it's affordable.

They had dual streams for the Tour, both Eurovision and NBCSN so I preferred Eurovision's commentary. They have a ton of UCI racing including mtb and cross. You can watch live or replay later.

I haven't used it as much as I should but will probably renew again. It's been worth it to me.
GrainBrain is offline  
Old 04-20-19, 05:00 AM
  #23  
GrainBrain
Senior Member
 
GrainBrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Central Io-way
Posts: 1,236

Bikes: LeMond Zurich, Giant Talon 29er

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 647 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 35 Times in 24 Posts
Originally Posted by caloso View Post
How do you feel about feedzones?
Seems like a great spot to attack for a podium finish!
GrainBrain is offline  
Old 04-21-19, 06:58 AM
  #24  
Sy Reene
Advocatus Diaboli
 
Sy Reene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 4,706

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2209 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 33 Times in 31 Posts
Originally Posted by Rick View Post
The footage of support crews with replacement bicycles is a big turn off to me. I believe this endurance race should be without this kind of help.
If such a race had bikes being non-replaceable, it would be interesting to see what the pros would really choose to ride that was more guaranteed to go the distance. I'd also make wheels non replaceable and with a flat, then the rider has to fix/replace his own.
Sy Reene is offline  
Old 04-21-19, 08:34 AM
  #25  
Ironfish653
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 922

Bikes: 1997 Cannondale, 1976 Bridgestone, 1998 Softride

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 305 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 16 Posts
Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
If such a race had bikes being non-replaceable, it would be interesting to see what the pros would really choose to ride that was more guaranteed to go the distance. I'd also make wheels non replaceable and with a flat, then the rider has to fix/replace his own.
Probably nothing dramatically different than what they’re riding now.
You think that everyone is counting on having a mechanical during the race? They’re setting up the bikes to be as fast as possible, but still go the distance.
They’re not going to ride 25lb steel frames and 36h wheels with airless tires to be ‘bomb proof;’ If carbon and 28’s made it to the finish without breaking, then it was enough, not that they got lucky.

Even with support cars, it’s a pretty significant penalty to have to stop and change wheels, and then go ‘full hero mode’ to pull yourself back up to the end of the line, especially if it’s late in the race.
Ironfish653 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.