Go Back  Bike Forums > The Racer's Forum > "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
Reload this Page >

AB-467 prize compensation: gender equity

"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

AB-467 prize compensation: gender equity

Old 05-16-19, 03:03 PM
  #26  
Ygduf
\_(ツ)_/
 
Ygduf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 10,976

Bikes: aggressive agreement is what I ride.

Mentioned: 108 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 967 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
^^ good post. I didn't read the rest. Lock this thread.
Ygduf is offline  
Likes For Ygduf:
Old 05-17-19, 06:58 AM
  #27  
topflightpro
Senior Member
 
topflightpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,283
Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1236 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
Yep. With races struggling due to costs and shutting down left and right, I'd be in favor of eliminating all (cash) prizes for everything but the elite Men's and Women's races.
In our early season races, we moved from payout each day to making it a series payout, which encourages people to attend both days.

But, we also created trophies. They are homemade and kind of ridiculous, but people want them. I get the impression that they want that trophy more than the cash.
topflightpro is offline  
Likes For topflightpro:
Old 05-17-19, 01:21 PM
  #28  
chicagogal
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 274
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 129 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
We have officially/unofficially adopted an equal price purse policy and have for years. Like above - you can pay 20 deep in the mens and 3 deep in the women's if you want but the pay is equal for the same spots.

People who say things like, "The race has to pay for itself - if there are only x people racing then they shouldn't"- full stop. That's not how races work. anyone who thinks it is should be removed from race promotion immediately and their races boycotted.

Women make up over 50% of the population. They are currently around 15% of licensed racers. That only happens if they have been actively discouraged from racing. This is a very old sexist industry. It's beyond time for it to change.

Bottom line is that no one is watching anyway. Racing is simply a way for people to indulge their own egos. As such if anyone actually spends 5 seconds thinking it shouldn't be made unilaterally equal across genders immediately then they are only thinking so out of sexist spite.

I brought this up on a USA Cycling Masters post somewhere - It's not even remotely representative of our population. The last thing we need is more of them or to listen to their thoughts about what should be done to fix it. I include myself in that.
Well said. Thank you.
chicagogal is offline  
Old 05-23-19, 06:31 PM
  #29  
Doge 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Doge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 9,496

Bikes: 1979 Raleigh Team 753

Mentioned: 144 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2943 Post(s)
Liked 42 Times in 33 Posts
Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
We have officially/unofficially adopted an equal price purse policy and have for years. Like above - you can pay 20 deep in the mens and 3 deep in the women's if you want but the pay is equal for the same spots
The bill says "identical". Paying 3 places may be equal to paying 10 places, it is not identical. The lawyers will decide.



Originally Posted by Psimet2001 View Post
Women make up over 50% of the population. They are currently around 15% of licensed racers. That only happens if they have been actively discouraged from racing. This is a very old sexist industry. It's beyond time for it to change...
Females are a majority in organized sports in SoCal. If you want more in cycling, you take them from another sport. I expect females are involved where they want to be involved, not because of discouragement.

I have tried really hard to recruit and get and keep females in cycling. The female athletes I know don't do it because they want to do something else. It think that rather simple explanation is the right one.


To the bill's overall sports effect...My daughter's team was playing for $20K from Nike, males were playing for $0. There are more females affected in SoCal than males. That is skewed by soccer, and volleyball and gym.

This bill reaches to the $500 mark. It also refers to non $ prize money. Most those SoCal females are going for that college athletic assistance. Again, the lawyers will decide. I expect USACycling Road female categories to get deader than it is, dragging all categories with it with this bill.
Doge is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Duane Behrens
Bicycle Mechanics
16
03-08-14 08:15 PM
RVD72
Folding Bikes
12
12-09-11 01:35 PM
ilkerk
Road Cycling
5
10-25-09 09:33 PM
Homebrew01
Road Cycling
5
09-14-09 08:31 AM
beaverstuff
Classic & Vintage
10
11-19-05 03:35 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.