Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
Reload this Page >

Helping a friend dissolve his collection

Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

Helping a friend dissolve his collection

Old 05-25-19, 06:49 PM
  #1  
prairiepedaler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Jolly 'ol Winnipeg
Posts: 623

Bikes: BRC Explorer 43lb'er, Raleigh Elkhorn, Cannondale SM600, LeeWorld Mountain Sport Frame, Maruishi MT18 Frame

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Helping a friend dissolve his collection

Hello BF members. Kind of a serious thread here but I thought someone may have been in the same sort of situation before. An older friend is getting rid of all his bike stuff not because he wants to but because he must due to health reasons. I volunteered to help him with the process but I knew it would take a long time to get rid of it all. None of the stuff is listed anywhere yet, we're still trying to compile it all.

The question is: have you (the editorial "you") ever been in this situation and how did you go about handling it? Thanks - advice and input welcome.
prairiepedaler is offline  
Old 05-25-19, 07:46 PM
  #2  
bargainguy
Senior Member
 
bargainguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Trekland
Posts: 1,737
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts
I'd split the stuff into three groups: keep / sell / donate.

I'd start with items to be donated. Arrange for pickup or drop off yourself.

Now we have two groups - keep and sell. If he has any items that he'd like to keep, say to pass on to a family member, this is a good time to say so.

Otherwise everything else gets sold. Market is a bit soft right now, but that wouldn't keep me from liquidating as best I could.

Good luck, and let us know how it plays out.
bargainguy is online now  
Old 05-25-19, 07:57 PM
  #3  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 15,117

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3607 Post(s)
Liked 62 Times in 55 Posts
I'm sorry your friend has to get rid of his bike stuff. Selling a lot of stuff isn't easy especially if you live in an area without a strong craigslist.
bikemig is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 06:17 AM
  #4  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 25,623

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 93 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1260 Post(s)
Liked 38 Times in 29 Posts
Well it is awful he needs to sell his stuff but I hope he can at least still ride.

I've been through this twice, once because I need the money after the government deprived me of my livelihood after.... well lets not get into that. And the other to downsize and raise money to move. If you not doing to raise cash to pay the rent it isn't as frustrating as selling to downsize. It does however take a lot of time and effort to scann ebay and craigslist and see what people are asking for stuff (Some of which isn't sold often like a RIGI) and ebay for completed listings.

For parts it was simple enough I started with NOS stuff that I was likely to never use and them moved to odd bits like a blue Galli cranksent that would likely never get used because it was only 170. Bikes were last in or least used first out.
__________________
Bianchis '87 Sport SX, '90 Proto, '90 Campione del Fausto Giamondi Specialisma Italiano Mundo, '91 Boarala 'cross, '93 Project 3, '86 Volpe, '97 Ti Megatube, , '90 something Vento 603,

Others but still loved,; '80 RIGI, '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '09 Motobecane SOLD, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 07:47 AM
  #5  
TakingMyTime
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Los Alamitos, Calif.
Posts: 1,294

Bikes: Trek 7.4 FX, 5200 & 7700

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 307 Post(s)
Liked 25 Times in 17 Posts
Whenever I hear a story like this it really breaks my heart. My biggest concern would be that you get a fair price for the items you are selling. Obviously if you need the money soon you're not going to be holding out for the top price, but there's no reason to ignore the market and/or find out later that you sold a $500 frame for $25. Just take your time and find out what the market is like in your area and then price accordingly. Just remember, sentiment does not alter value to the buyer. Set a fair price and good luck.
TakingMyTime is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 09:21 AM
  #6  
Dean51 
Senior Member
 
Dean51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Olympic Peninsula, WA
Posts: 387

Bikes: '82 YKonno Allez, ~'80 Ron Cooper, '87 Ciocc Designer 84, '77 Schwinn Volare, '86 Tommasini Racing, Ciocc Mockba 80, '98 S-Works Hardtail Mtn., Nishiki Int'l Singlespeed

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 133 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
I found myself in a similar situation a few years ago.....friend & neighbor with a substantial collection of vintage gear was nearing his end. He asked me if I would be interested in buying the entire lot, as he had neither the time or energy to do it himself. I initially said no. 'Reason being he knew what he had, he valued it like platinum plated gold, and I knew I couldn't / wouldn't offer him anything near what he was expecting.

Instead, I offered to make a complete inventory and do my best to establish a fair market price. I told him there was nearly no chance I could offer him what he had in mind, but my end product could help him work more effectively with another buyer.

There were 7 complete bikes...including two Ron Coopers and two Y Kono built Allezs., Heaps of parts, including 80's era Campy NR/SR bits (much of it NIB), Suntour NWN freewheels in just a about every combination imaginable. Lots of high quality tools. Books. On and on....you get the picture. I spent a lot of time researching completed eBay sales to price the parts and tools. I made an appointment with a shop ~70 miles away to get advice on the complete bikes. It took heaps of time, but I was retired and anything to do with vintage road bikes was high on my list of things to do.

I presented my completed work and he pressed me several times to make an offer. In the end, I offered him fifty cents on the dollar, with enough space between us that he could not take a swing at me. He responded with "Dean, I EXPECTED A LOT MORE!" I explained my reasoning which was basically the Pro's Closet model.... something like you box everything up, pay to ship it to Colorado, they sell on eBay and keep ~30%. Then there are eBay and PayPal fees. If I recall correctly, you pay to have any unsold items returned if you want them back. He thought about it for 15 seconds and said "your offer will be just fine, thank you." I was stunned. You could have knocked me down with a feather.

Some may think I took advantage of the situation. I don't. I put a heap of time into the project. I offered to help him sell smaller lots on eBay and get the better bikes on consignment. He said no, he just wanted it gone in one lot so his wife would not have to deal with it when he passed. After the deal was done and his health was still reasonably good, he confided to my wife how happy he was that his bikes and bits were now with me.....he did not know anyone else who would treasure them as he had.

I kept three of the complete bikes. They are regular riders and I think of him fondly while I'm mashing their pedals.

Dean
__________________
Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die

Last edited by Dean51; 05-26-19 at 10:05 AM.
Dean51 is offline  
Likes For Dean51:
Old 05-26-19, 09:41 AM
  #7  
Bikerider007 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: AZ
Posts: 2,377

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 432 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Selling takes experience and patience if you want top dollar. And Ebay. Plus you have to value your time.

Find a median and try and bulk sale if possible. Dealing with multiple buyers who may or may not come through will get old.
__________________
Bikerider007 is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 10:27 AM
  #8  
KonAaron Snake 
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
 
KonAaron Snake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 16,803

Bikes: Two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
The answer depends on the bikes, size of collection, the timing, and your friend’s needs. Are they higher end? Mid? Lower? How much time do you have to get rid of them? How much time do you have to invest sell? Do they represent a significant asset to your friend?

Options range from eBay sales with excellent photos up to dropping them for scrap -
and it all depends on time and value.

The reality is that if you have to sell a collection fast, .50 on the dollar is a best case scenario...and I’d call that generous.
KonAaron Snake is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 12:35 PM
  #9  
thinktubes 
Fast+Bulbous
 
thinktubes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Across the street from Chicago
Posts: 4,479

Bikes: Battaglin Cromor, Ciocc Designer 84, Schwinn Superior 1981

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 322 Post(s)
Liked 21 Times in 11 Posts
Having recently gone through liquidating all the large or $$$ items from my father's estate, I would recommend Ebay over Craigslist.

Ebay gives you more eyes and buyers have to pay upfront and there isn't any haggling.

the no-shows and lowballers got old really fast for anything I listed on CL.

I came out slightly ahead using Ebay, even after the fees.

Best of all, I was able to sell everything inside of a month.

Sorry to hear about your friend, I hope this is helpful.
thinktubes is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 01:07 PM
  #10  
jdawginsc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 137

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, ?Rossin Performance EL

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Ebay everything you can. Bundle "stuff" in small to medium lots and the decent stuff a la carte.
jdawginsc is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 01:53 PM
  #11  
jlaw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 624

Bikes: 2015 Spec. AWOL Elite, 2007 Spec. Roubaix Elite, 2003 Spec. Big Hit 2, 1998 VooDoo Zobop, 1985 Trek 410, 1984 Trek 620

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 216 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 35 Times in 21 Posts
Originally Posted by prairiepedaler View Post
Hello BF members. Kind of a serious thread here but I thought someone may have been in the same sort of situation before. An older friend is getting rid of all his bike stuff not because he wants to but because he must due to health reasons. I volunteered to help him with the process but I knew it would take a long time to get rid of it all. None of the stuff is listed anywhere yet, we're still trying to compile it all.

The question is: have you (the editorial "you") ever been in this situation and how did you go about handling it? Thanks - advice and input welcome.
Before you bother with ebay you may want to offer items for sale on BF.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/

or, for non-C&V stuff:

https://www.bikeforums.net/sale/


For C&V valuations:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...th-appraisals/
jlaw is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 02:04 PM
  #12  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 15,117

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3607 Post(s)
Liked 62 Times in 55 Posts
Originally Posted by jlaw View Post
Before you bother with ebay you may want to offer items for sale on BF.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/

or, for non-C&V stuff:

https://www.bikeforums.net/sale/


For C&V valuations:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...th-appraisals/

This is not a bad place to sell older stuff. The for sale forum is active. Prices won't be as high as eBay but you don't have the fees and some of the hassles.
bikemig is offline  
Old 05-26-19, 04:33 PM
  #13  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,014

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 67 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 648 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 32 Posts
Yes, some people grossly overvalue their items. Maybe they "remember" prices from the past, maybe they are just too attached to the item. I'd really want clarity on this project before jumping in. Could end up with a lose/lose situation.


And selling a large pile all at once? You might get 15% of its value, maybe 20%. Convenience has its cost.
wrk101 is offline  
Likes For wrk101:
Old 05-26-19, 04:52 PM
  #14  
jdawginsc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 137

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, ?Rossin Performance EL

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 29 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Yes, some people grossly overvalue their items. Maybe they "remember" prices from the past, maybe they are just too attached to the item. I'd really want clarity on this project before jumping in. Could end up with a lose/lose situation.


And selling a large pile all at once? You might get 15% of its value, maybe 20%. Convenience has its cost.
Sometimes lots of "junk stuff" gets more if you include a few teaser items in them. I agree that individually desirable items should be a long process.
jdawginsc is offline  
Old 05-27-19, 01:58 AM
  #15  
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 9,138

Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, Rocky Mountain Cardiac

Mentioned: 143 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 589 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 27 Times in 25 Posts
I am in the process of setting up a bulk sale right now, hoping to have it done and 100 to 150 bikes shipped on June 7th. I have done these bulk sales several times. Usually the sale includes only low end stuff sold for ten to fifteen dollars each. The deal I am brokering (I do not charge for helping) right now will include everything from the ten bucks a unit quality level to top of the line vintage road bikes. The high enders are sold at fair value, the bulk stuff, not so much.
@prairiepedaler send me a PM and I will get back to you with my phone number. Perhaps I can facilitate a sale for everything at one time.

Some of the hundred+ bikes to go...


__________________
Learn how to find, restore and maintain vintage road bicycles at... MY "TEN SPEEDS"
randyjawa is online now  
Old 05-27-19, 12:21 PM
  #16  
Homebrew01
Super Moderator
 
Homebrew01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Posts: 21,055

Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 797 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by prairiepedaler View Post
Hello BF members. Kind of a serious thread here but I thought someone may have been in the same sort of situation before. An older friend is getting rid of all his bike stuff not because he wants to but because he must due to health reasons. I volunteered to help him with the process but I knew it would take a long time to get rid of it all. None of the stuff is listed anywhere yet, we're still trying to compile it all.

The question is: have you (the editorial "you") ever been in this situation and how did you go about handling it? Thanks - advice and input welcome.
Are you in a metropolitan area ? Or out in the wilderness ?

For lower end bikes not worth shipping, you can still sell on Ebay, and specify "Local Pickup Only".
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.

FYI: http://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Homebrew01 is offline  
Old 05-28-19, 06:48 AM
  #17  
prairiepedaler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Jolly 'ol Winnipeg
Posts: 623

Bikes: BRC Explorer 43lb'er, Raleigh Elkhorn, Cannondale SM600, LeeWorld Mountain Sport Frame, Maruishi MT18 Frame

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thank you very much for the support and suggestions! I'll have to contemplate incorporating some ideas into this situation. My sense is I think I'm going to apply the 80/20 rule to the problem. That is, 20% of the items are bound to be worth the other combined 80% and to concentrate on dispensing that 20. The remaining bulk will probably be equally distributed to 4 of the local Bike Co-Ops. Of that 20%, the small & easily packable will be put online somewhere.
prairiepedaler is offline  
Old 05-28-19, 07:17 AM
  #18  
KonAaron Snake 
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
 
KonAaron Snake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 16,803

Bikes: Two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by jdawginsc View Post
Sometimes lots of "junk stuff" gets more if you include a few teaser items in them. I agree that individually desirable items should be a long process.
Frankly I think this group is mostly a waste of time for sales on complete bikes, wheels, or frames. Tire kicking, time wasting, hemming and hawing. More work than ebay at less return. The folks here are mostly either thrifty, or very patient, and the shipping on larger items kills most deals. A lot of us know how to find that AMAZING can't miss deal, so there's not much interest in paying anything even close to "retail". I'm not being critical - I'm the same way. It's a great place to get rid of lower - mid priced parts though!

Thepaceline is a much better sales forum.
KonAaron Snake is offline  
Old 05-28-19, 07:25 AM
  #19  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 15,117

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3607 Post(s)
Liked 62 Times in 55 Posts
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
Frankly I think this group is mostly a waste of time for sales on complete bikes, wheels, or frames. Tire kicking, time wasting, hemming and hawing. More work than ebay at less return. The folks here are mostly either thrifty, or very patient, and the shipping on larger items kills most deals. A lot of us know how to find that AMAZING can't miss deal, so there's not much interest in paying anything even close to "retail". I'm not being critical - I'm the same way. It's a great place to get rid of lower - mid priced parts though!

Thepaceline is a much better sales forum.
This is a pretty thrifty and savvy group. Stuff that is priced reasonably moves fast though with little hassle.
bikemig is offline  
Likes For bikemig:
Old 05-28-19, 11:21 AM
  #20  
KonAaron Snake 
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
 
KonAaron Snake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 16,803

Bikes: Two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
This is a pretty thrifty and savvy group. Stuff that is priced reasonably moves fast though with little hassle.
This is a pretty thrifty and savvy group. Stuff that is priced at flip value on mid-level stuff moves fast though with little hassle. FIFY

We're saying the same thing...it's like trying to sell retail goods to a wholesaler a lot of the time.
KonAaron Snake is offline  
Old 06-04-19, 04:46 AM
  #21  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,093
Mentioned: 244 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1090 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 14 Posts
To me, the biggest factor is whether $$ is needed. If not, I’d just give everything away. Far less hassle and lots of happy new owners.
nlerner is offline  
Old 06-04-19, 07:22 AM
  #22  
KonAaron Snake 
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
 
KonAaron Snake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 16,803

Bikes: Two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
To me, the biggest factor is whether $$ is needed. If not, Id just give everything away. Far less hassle and lots of happy new owners.
You're putting your life in jeopardy saying such a thing here.
KonAaron Snake is offline  
Old 06-04-19, 07:44 AM
  #23  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,093
Mentioned: 244 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1090 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
You're putting your life in jeopardy saying such a thing here.
Hah! Sorry, should have said, "I'll squeeze every gosh darn cent out of my fleet even if it kills me!"
nlerner is offline  
Likes For nlerner:
Old 06-04-19, 07:55 AM
  #24  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,014

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 67 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 648 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 32 Posts
Originally Posted by prairiepedaler View Post
Thank you very much for the support and suggestions! I'll have to contemplate incorporating some ideas into this situation. My sense is I think I'm going to apply the 80/20 rule to the problem. That is, 20% of the items are bound to be worth the other combined 80% and to concentrate on dispensing that 20. The remaining bulk will probably be equally distributed to 4 of the local Bike Co-Ops. Of that 20%, the small & easily packable will be put online somewhere.

Huge fan of the 80/20 rule. In fact, for vintage bicycles, I have seen a 90/10 rule apply, where 10% of the stuff has 90% of the value. A couple of 10% cuts, and I am typically down to donate time. I am working through a pile of 360 wheels right now. About 36 have the most value, so I will sell them first. Then there might be another 10% (36 more) worth selling. The rest are going to be donated. I've already culled out the bottom half (180) and donated them.

My recollection of the 80/20 rule is that 20% represented 80% of the value. So the remaining 80% value is a small fraction of the top 20%. And the time it takes to market, sell, and ship a low value item is the same as the time to sell a high value item of the same size/shape. Selling a Suntour Honor RD takes just as much time as selling a Campy Super Record RD.

If you are in a larger metro area, a well publicized flash sale/garage sale might be a good move once you sell off the best stuff.
wrk101 is offline  
Likes For wrk101:
Old 06-12-19, 07:57 AM
  #25  
prairiepedaler
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Jolly 'ol Winnipeg
Posts: 623

Bikes: BRC Explorer 43lb'er, Raleigh Elkhorn, Cannondale SM600, LeeWorld Mountain Sport Frame, Maruishi MT18 Frame

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks for all the input given here. What he's decided to do is move as much as he can via a sale in his own backyard. He can close up anytime and go lie down when neccessary. He's found that most people want complete bikes and not parts. Few locals care about french specific bike parts. I suggested he offer u-build bike kits; complete bikes but unbuilt. Much of the decisive work has been performed that way yet assembly requires time and skill (and tools) too.
prairiepedaler is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Trekathlete
Commuting
15
07-17-18 08:46 PM
Docbilly
Bicycle Mechanics
4
06-03-13 09:44 PM
turtlebird
Bicycle Mechanics
2
07-15-08 04:26 PM
brokenrobot
Bicycle Mechanics
3
01-03-08 09:58 AM
Miller2
Road Cycling
2
01-28-07 02:37 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.