What is the reason the braking surface of a disc has so many holes?
04-28-19, 03:35 PM
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What is the reason the braking surface of a disc has so many holes?
I notice on the more high end bikes the discs have a ton of holes on them. Is this to save weight or what? Would the cheaper discs with less holes provide more braking power since there´s more friction due to more material rubbing against each other?
04-28-19, 04:53 PM
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Heat management. Disc rotors are rather small and the braking force on such a small surface area generates a lot of heat. The holes increase the surface area of the rotors and let them shed heat better.
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As stated, increased surface area for heat managment.
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Honest question: have you ever heard of google?
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My point is that many questions have already been asked and answered about a thousand times. And I wouldn't go with this response if the OP didn't already have a history of this sort of thing.
We're talking about an OP who recently started a thread asking for advice on how to take a crap in the woods...Apparently he keeps falling into his own s**t:
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...se-forest.html
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On this topic, google works just fine.
My point is that many questions have already been asked and answered about a thousand times. And I wouldn't go with this response if the OP didn't already have a history of this sort of thing.
We're talking about an OP who recently started a thread asking for advice on how to take a crap in the woods...Apparently he keeps falling into his own s**t:
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...se-forest.html
My point is that many questions have already been asked and answered about a thousand times. And I wouldn't go with this response if the OP didn't already have a history of this sort of thing.
We're talking about an OP who recently started a thread asking for advice on how to take a crap in the woods...Apparently he keeps falling into his own s**t:
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...se-forest.html
I have a friend like that, he is a serial-asker (is that even a term?). He is a nice guy, just likes to ask questions, like a little kid.
I just shrug my shoulders and answer him. He is otherwise a good guy.
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I suppose I am intolerant, since I mastered defecation long before acquiring my first personal computer.
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I am 63 yo. The older I get the more tolerant I become. I guess I just want people to be patient and tolerant with me when I finally become a blathering and dithering old fool...
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04-28-19, 07:55 PM
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The obvious answer is because it's made of Swiss cheese!
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One thing that is never discussed on BF: Are disc brakes superior to rim brakes?
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04-29-19, 05:43 AM
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On this topic, google works just fine.
My point is that many questions have already been asked and answered about a thousand times. And I wouldn't go with this response if the OP didn't already have a history of this sort of thing.
We're talking about an OP who recently started a thread asking for advice on how to take a crap in the woods...Apparently he keeps falling into his own s**t:
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...se-forest.html
My point is that many questions have already been asked and answered about a thousand times. And I wouldn't go with this response if the OP didn't already have a history of this sort of thing.
We're talking about an OP who recently started a thread asking for advice on how to take a crap in the woods...Apparently he keeps falling into his own s**t:
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...se-forest.html
Personally I try and make sure I've been to the loo before going out so I don't get caught short and I could never seriously ask something like that in a forum.
One poster did suggest practicing squatting, and whilst personally I never plan on taking a dump in the woods, I may start practicing this in the garden just to see the look on the other halves face when she asks me what I'm doing
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BTW...I really doesn't take much practice. During my last two two-week tours I had to use the woods a total of three times. I wear bibs, so I try to travel with full-zip jerseys. Makes things easier.
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I had a 1978 CB750F, with 2 front discs with no holes. Still needed 4 fingers compared to later versions. Engineers of the time didn't want us to lock the front wheel, I guess.
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One of the OP's questions was is a solid rotor would give better stopping power
The answer is yes. It would create more friction with a solid surface and would give better stopping power.....
...until it got too hot.
The answer is yes. It would create more friction with a solid surface and would give better stopping power.....
...until it got too hot.
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It's not a matter of using the brakes hard. It's a matter of using them.
You might be able to get away with a solid rotor in an ultra flat place where you're barely using them.
But any kind of normal riding where you need to slow a decent down a hill and the drilled rotors will get hot enough that touching them will involve needing burn ointment at the least. No joke. They get pretty hot during normal usage.
You won't make them glow red like you see on the 'brake cam' in NASCAR. But you'll make them dangerously hot to touch with anything other than a steady ride without using the brakes at all.
04-29-19, 08:12 AM
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How thick are bicycle discs?
If we assume that the holes are circular, for the surface area of a drilled disc to be larger than that of a solid disc, the following would need to be true:
surface area of exposed material due to hole > surface area of the material that would be there if there was no hole
2*pi*r*th > 2*pi*r*r
th > r
Is that usually the case? What am I doing wrong?
If we assume that the holes are circular, for the surface area of a drilled disc to be larger than that of a solid disc, the following would need to be true:
surface area of exposed material due to hole > surface area of the material that would be there if there was no hole
2*pi*r*th > 2*pi*r*r
th > r
Is that usually the case? What am I doing wrong?
04-29-19, 08:23 AM
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How do those guys at Moto GP manage to not die while using discs without holes all over them?
Behind the brakes: stopping power in MotoGP? | MotoGP?