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Old 02-21-21, 08:30 PM
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Campy is certainly the bees knees. My Italian roadie is Campy Rec 8sp, though I happily ride Shimano Di2 and 8sp STI on other bikes. A huge gap if we compare Campy Record hubs from the early 90's to Shimano 600 or Dura Ace of that era.
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Old 02-21-21, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferrouscious View Post
A lot to unpack here.
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2. Most of the hubs sold these days use end caps. Your RSX hub is 20, 30 years old. You can remove spacers from Campagnolo hubs from the same era. Oh, and a Shimano R7000 hub? No spacers to remove there.
3. 8 speed hubs, no matter the brand, have always been 130mm. That includes Shimano.
The whole point is that Shimano made plenty of 126mm HG cassette hubs (1055, 6400, A410, A550 and probably a few more I am forgetting) back in that non-end-cap era, which allows you to run modern 7-10 speed cassettes on your classic bike. Furthermore you can easily change these hubs back and forth between their 126mm and 130mm configurations. Back in that era Campy only had freewheel hubs. When they started using cassette hubs, they started with the dead-end 8v freehub. PLUS Shimano made and still makes 7 speed freewheels, which can be shifted by their 7 speed brifters (ST-A410, ST 3300 and Tourney which is still being produced today). So that gives you a decent array of options for your 126mm drop-out classic bike with freewheel hubs.

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5. Run a Shimano crank instead.
That's how it starts. You start using Shimano cranks and before you know it you're a Shimano fanboy
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Old 02-22-21, 04:31 AM
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Look, all this talk of Campy and Shimano is just so much hot air. Velosteel is where its at. Anything else and you just end up yet another guy in a cycling suit...



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Old 02-22-21, 07:45 AM
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Campagnolo make the wheels for Ferrari, Porsche and probably Alfa
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Campagnolo can’t be compared to Ferrari.

Even Ferrari is coming out with a 4x4 SUV, but OR is still a segment of the market that Campagnolo continues to ignore... 25 years later.

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Old 02-22-21, 10:54 AM
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Why should everyone ride the same components. I say let everyone ride what they want. Let there be high end and low end makers. Itís what the individual wants to spend and enjoy riding with. Everyoneís taste is different. Campy can not make components for every type of biking They are by nature a small company. They just came out with Ekar gravel set. They made Off road but they got out of the market.
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Old 02-22-21, 12:44 PM
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Why are Campagnolo drivetrains not more common? price? from the few bikes I have worked on with Campy, that stuff shifts like a dream.
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Old 02-22-21, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk de Chablis View Post
Campagnolo make the wheels for Ferrari, Porsche and probably Alfa
Some of the best looking wheels ever:
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246 GTS Dino with a few tasteful upgrades. Not mine, but I wish it was!
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Old 02-22-21, 05:44 PM
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Why are Campagnolo drivetrains not more common? price? from the few bikes I have worked on with Campy, that stuff shifts like a dream.
They donít do OEM for the mass bike brands. Like Shimano. The average person just doesnít search out other brands. When they walk in a bike shop and all the bike have Shimano gear on them. Bike shops just want to sell bikes. They donít want to go thru the whole why this and that talk. As they can lose a sale that way.
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Old 02-22-21, 07:21 PM
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Ed,
I doubt it is about the "why this and that talk" I suspect it is way above the pay grade of the bike shop and why bikes get the inexpensive parts deal on the bike as it comes from the manufacturer/seller. I am a golf equipment professional and I get that talk every time a customer comes in to see me. In my case it is about a custom fit for the golf player, and in the bike world it is the same about the best fit for the rider. The parts going on a bike make it work better for some riders and that is part of the fit. JMHO, Smiles, MH
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Old 02-23-21, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
Why are Campagnolo drivetrains not more common? price? from the few bikes I have worked on with Campy, that stuff shifts like a dream.
Price and availability, before the early 00's Campag (at least in the UK) was just as cheap, if not cheaper than Shimano, and you could get it anywhere, then for whatever reason, they chose not to compete at the low-mid end of the market (at the same time, they went big into wheels with their Fulcrum brand!) and prices went up, availability became poor, and Shimano just got better, and more importantly, a lot cheaper.

Lack of compatibility with Shimano/SRAM till 11 speed didn't help, and the re-buildability isn't an issue, if you have a part that needs major service/spares, chances are it will be cheaper to replace with new, or the spares aren't available; (and yes I have had recent Campag part I have had to scrap as no spares were available)
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Old 02-23-21, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wiser View Post
They are by nature a small company
The cycle side of Campag is just a small part of the business, Campagnolo started to manufacture magnesium parts such as wheels for sports cars like Alfa, Ferrari, Lambo and Maserati and built chassis for NASA satellites.

Everyone percives Shimano as cheap because the market is flooded with OE product and wouldn't pay full RRP for it, looking at Ultegra STI's vs Chorus Ergo's there is $5 diference, and the Chorus has carbon blades on the 11spd (as Shimano is still 11spd) 12spd Chorus is cheaper than Ultegra
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
Why are Campagnolo drivetrains not more common? price? from the few bikes I have worked on with Campy, that stuff shifts like a dream.
My 2c: Their distribution network is bad. Spares are hard to get, even in Europe. Supply can be erratic. As great as their stuff is, as a dealer you get fed up when you cannot properly serve your customers.
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Old 02-23-21, 09:33 AM
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I'm going to make one more comment then stay out of this soon to be heated thread. Equating Campy to Ferrari is quite unfair to Campy. Both are expensive but that's all they have in common. Campy is at least reliable and durable. Ferraris are neither.
But they did have that wonderful fued with Carroll Shelby back in the 60ís !
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So after over 3,300 posts to this forum you had no intention or expectation that this would turn into the usual Brand X is great the rest are not? Using Ferrari as a comparison really!
Brand most likely to burst into flames.
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But they did have that wonderful fued with Carroll Shelby back in the 60ís !
The feud was with FoMoCo.
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Old 02-23-21, 03:13 PM
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The cycle side of Campag is just a small part of the business, Campagnolo started to manufacture magnesium parts such as wheels for sports cars like Alfa, Ferrari, Lambo and Maserati and built chassis for NASA satellites.

Everyone percives Shimano as cheap because the market is flooded with OE product and wouldn't pay full RRP for it, looking at Ultegra STI's vs Chorus Ergo's there is $5 diference, and the Chorus has carbon blades on the 11spd (as Shimano is still 11spd) 12spd Chorus is cheaper than Ultegra

...because, y'know, more speeds is better. All argument should stop at this point.
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+1 -- My old Pinarello Montello is full Campy C-Record group replete with Delta brakes. Campy really is a joy to work with. They just go on by themselves (over-haul easily), adjust easily, last a long time and seem to get better with age a character. My Pinarello is going on 34 years young!
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Recently did a Chorus 12sp build with hydraulics. The brake setup involved trimming pre-filled hoses and it was easy and drama free, unlike Shimano trim, fill, and bleed. I had to do no filling and no bleeding; very nice. The quality was impressive and the feel of the shifters made my GRX800s feel like toys.

I did have a hard time locating long lengths of "The Maximum Smoothness" cable housing though; and the price, wow!
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
Brand most likely to burst into flames.
I reckon that goes to Pontiac
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