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Honest opinion piece on disc brakes

Old 02-14-21, 10:48 PM
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Tennis shoe wedged in rear seat stays on tire. Good for a couple of reserved watts.
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Old 02-14-21, 11:00 PM
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Disc brakes prove god isn't dead.
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Old 02-14-21, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blakcloud View Post
I am with German_Chris on this one, I wouldn't purchase a bike that wasn't disk brake or thru axles and I will also add to that list electronic shifting.
I'll do electronic shifting when the upcharge for it isn't outrageous, its been around long enough to prove its reliability and functionality. But I'm not willing to pay the extra 1500 for the convenience of a button and the need to regularly plug it in. An extra 500 I'll consider since electronics doesn't really cost that much and the mechanical design is already there they're gonna have to bring it down more.

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Tennis shoe wedged in rear seat stays on tire. Good for a couple of reserved watts.
Here's the real solution, save weight due to no brakes, cables or levers, more aero with all those items gone, and breaking your ankle builds character. Also not as much fun as stuffing your foot in between the tire and fork for an extra fast stop but still safer.
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Old 02-14-21, 11:41 PM
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Don't like modern stuff? Cool, just buy old stuff then. There will be years of supply for rim brakes. Heck, you still can buy 27" tires.

No need to start a thread on this evil modern electronic Internet.
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Old 02-15-21, 12:10 AM
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It's not honest opinion piece because the general market was shifting to disc brakes faster than the pros were.
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Old 02-15-21, 01:26 AM
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Caliper brakes aren't much better than rod brakes. IMO.
Drum brakes are NOT obsolete either. Idiots just won't buy them. LOL.
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Old 02-15-21, 04:58 AM
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The subject of disc brakes should be a sticky.
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Sticky of the brakes will only add friction amongst the members.
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Old 02-15-21, 09:02 AM
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I don’t have a bike with disc brakes, but an easy way to get an honest opinion is to reverse the sequence.

If disc brakes had been the norm for decades and the “industry” decided to introduce rim brakes would anyone be able to defend using rim brakes.

Can you imagine the response from the suggestion of using the rim as a braking surface? Having to buy a new bike with rim brake caliper mounts because none of the existing bikes had any way to mount them. And having to replace a rim one day from brake wear?

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Old 02-15-21, 09:13 AM
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I believe disc brakes do brake better. I'm curious though why exactly it took so long for the bike industry to actually convince shoppers of this fact, only coming to almost fully replacing rim brakes within their road lineups in last 3-4 years?

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Old 02-15-21, 09:14 AM
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Sticky of the brakes will only add friction amongst the members.
At least they’d have their own circle****.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I believe disc brakes do brake better. I'm curious though why exactly it took so long for the bike industry to actually convince shoppers of this fact, only coming to almost fully replacing rim brakes within their road lineups in last 3-4 years?

from 1975
I can remember seeing a pair of home market Japanese bikes fitted with discs in 1973. They were not new bikes, owners had purchased them some time previously. Owners had visited a few bike shops, no one would work on them. We tried contacting Shimano and, as always with Shimano, they provided nothing helpful.

Note that 1975 advertising claims are identical to current advertising claims.
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Discussing disc brakes is child’s play.

The real discussion is eliminating the antiquated chain-derailleur system.

...but I like wearing out my drivetrain and getting grease all over my hands.

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Old 02-15-21, 09:56 AM
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I do like the "volume knob" on that disk brake caliper. Looks like they appropriated it from a car radio!
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Old 02-15-21, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I believe disc brakes do brake better. I'm curious though why exactly it took so long for the bike industry to actually convince shoppers of this fact, only coming to almost fully replacing rim brakes within their road lineups in last 3-4 years?
Increased weight was a factor along with the need to revise front fork construction to deal with the torque applied by the brake acting on one side only.

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Old 02-15-21, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
Discussing disc brakes is child’s play.

The real discussion is eliminating the antiquated chain-derailleur system.

...but I like wearing out my drivetrain and getting grease all over my hands.

John
Eliminating the derailleur is easy.

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Old 02-15-21, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
The subject of disc brakes should be a sticky.
Or maybe a subforum. Like chain lube.
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Old 02-15-21, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
Or maybe a subforum. Like chain lube.

Chain lube would be the opposite of a sticky. Perhaps a "slick".
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Old 02-15-21, 11:42 AM
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Chain lube would be the opposite of a sticky. Perhaps a "slick".
Call it a “slicky”.
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I would say that Hydraulic Disc is the game changer. anything with a cable is not in the same class.
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A lot of people thought the airplane was just a folly, and the automobile was a fairweather conveyance for the rich. Many troglodytes are resistant to change because they lack the reasoning skills to see a different path, to accept the validity of another way of doing things, or the intellect to consider it. Most luddites are the same.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
The subject of disc brakes should be a sticky.
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I switched my moutain bike to disc (cable) in the rear when I broke the last frame. I could change the front but really like the wheel with the Ringle hub I’ve built up 15 years ago. Anyway the rear rim brake never worked well. The disc was a good improvement.

My road bike is rim brake carbon wheels. Work well. Better than the aluminum wheels. Next bike I want disc all around. My issue is I take the wheels off for hauling I the trunk. Cable disc stay open and I can get them back on easy. I’m afraid hydraulic will close up and using a wedge will be a pain. How much trouble do others have?
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Old 02-15-21, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
I don’t have a bike with disc brakes, but an easy way to get an honest opinion is to reverse the sequence.

If disc brakes had been the norm for decades and the “industry” decided to introduce rim brakes would anyone be able to defend using rim brakes.

Can you imagine the response from the suggestion of using the rim as a braking surface? Having to buy a new bike with rim brake caliper mounts because none of the existing bikes had any way to mount them. And having to replace a rim one day from brake wear?

John
This may be the most compelling argument I've seen, so far.
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Old 02-15-21, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster View Post
A lot of people thought the airplane was just a folly, and the automobile was a fairweather conveyance for the rich. Many troglodytes are resistant to change because they lack the reasoning skills to see a different path, to accept the validity of another way of doing things, or the intellect to consider it. Most luddites are the same.
Actually it’s not a difference in taste or preference or even a lack of intelligence. I’m willfully avoiding newer bike technologies just to be naughty.

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