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Old 03-18-19, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tcs
Oooooh, love to hear the song dogs at night! Along with the Milky Way hanging in an inky black sky, it's part of the spiritual recharge I get when camping.
You mean like the Thin Lizzy song? 😁😉
I've heard coyotes calling more times than I can count now, but the first time or two, it's a little unnerving. Wolves, on the other hand, don't sound very scary, but are supposed to be way more dangerous.
BTW, I'm still touring in Arizona, near Prescott now, so the coyote are pretty common. 😲
I hope they don't have a thing for corned beef, a lady gave me a huge baggy-ful of leftovers today. 😁😉
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The Coyote's Bicycle: The Untold Story of Seven Thousand Bicycles and the Rise of a B

For readers of Jon Krakauer and Susan Orlean, The Coyote's Bicycle brings to life a never-before-told phenomenon at our southern border, and the human drama of those who would cross.

It wasn’t surprising when the first abandoned bicycles were found along the dirt roads and farmland just across the border from Tijuana, but before long they were arriving in droves. The bikes went from curiosity, to nuisance, to phenomenon. But until they caught the eye of journalist Kimball Taylor, only a small cadre of human smugglers—coyotes—and migrants could say how or why they’d gotten there. This is the story of 7,000 bikes that made an incredible journey and one young man from Oaxaca who arrived at the border with nothing, built a small empire, and then vanished.

Taylor follows the trail of the border bikes through some of society’s most powerful institutions, and, with the help of an unlikely source, he reconstructs the rise of one of Tijuana’s most innovative coyotes. Touching on immigration and globalization, as well as the history of the US/Mexico border, The Coyote’s Bicycle is at once an immersive investigation of an outrageous occurrence and a true-crime, rags-to-riches story.

https://www.amazon.com/Coyotes-Bicyc.../dp/1978650426


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Originally Posted by chrisx
For readers of Jon Krakauer and Susan Orlean, The Coyote's Bicycle brings to life a never-before-told phenomenon at our southern border, and the human drama of those who would cross.

It wasn’t surprising when the first abandoned bicycles were found along the dirt roads and farmland just across the border from Tijuana, but before long they were arriving in droves. The bikes went from curiosity, to nuisance, to phenomenon. But until they caught the eye of journalist Kimball Taylor, only a small cadre of human smugglers—coyotes—and migrants could say how or why they’d gotten there. This is the story of 7,000 bikes that made an incredible journey and one young man from Oaxaca who arrived at the border with nothing, built a small empire, and then vanished.

Taylor follows the trail of the border bikes through some of society’s most powerful institutions, and, with the help of an unlikely source, he reconstructs the rise of one of Tijuana’s most innovative coyotes. Touching on immigration and globalization, as well as the history of the US/Mexico border, The Coyote’s Bicycle is at once an immersive investigation of an outrageous occurrence and a true-crime, rags-to-riches story.

https://www.amazon.com/Coyotes-Bicyc.../dp/1978650426


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So thats what your doing down on the southern border, with all your crossings and your bicycles. Better get it all done beofre the wall is built!
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Originally Posted by willibrord
So thats what your doing down on the southern border, with all your crossings and your bicycles. Better get it all done beofre the wall is built!
bad guess.

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Originally Posted by chrisx
bad guess.

Very cool, can you educate us on the meaning? I'm originally from Pennsylvania, and know right next to nothing about Mexican or Native American culture. I do have a small collection of turquoise jewelry going now, as it's my birthstone. Most recent purchase was a huge belt buckle, made with Mexican silver, and having 3 huge turquoise stones. Unfortunately, one stone is damaged, but that's why I could afford it, lol. 😁😉
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Originally Posted by stardognine

Very cool, can you educate us on the meaning? I'm originally from Pennsylvania, and know right next to nothing about Mexican or Native American culture. I do have a small collection of turquoise jewelry going now, as it's my birthstone. Most recent purchase was a huge belt buckle, made with Mexican silver, and having 3 huge turquoise stones. Unfortunately, one stone is damaged, but that's why I could afford it, lol. 😁😉
Its not Mexican, its Egyptian. It's the Eye of Horus.

The Eye of Horus, also known as wadjet, wedjat or udjat, is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection, royal power, and good health. The Eye of Horus is similar to the Eye of Ra, which belongs to a different god, Ra, but represents many of the same concepts.
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Originally Posted by skookum
its Egyptian. )
The Eye of Horus and the Eye of Ra: Not the Same ? Michael Fassbender

The Eye of Horus and the Eye of Ra: Not the Same

The Eye of Ra and the Eye of Horus are literally as different as the sun and moon. They pertain to deities with similarities in their iconography and a certain overlap in their roles and attributes, but

In Mexico, coyote has a different meaning.

Cruzar la frontera de México con un coyote por 700 dólares

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Originally Posted by skookum
Its not Mexican, its Egyptian. It's the Eye of Horus.

Wikipedia

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But if I googled everything I didn't understand, I'd never have time to ride my bike. 😁
Somehow, Egypt seems to not fit the thread topic. 🤔
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Originally Posted by stardognine

. 😁
Somehow, Egypt seems to not fit the thread topic. 🤔
Nope. But it is a cool image.
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Old 03-19-19, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by willibrord
So thats what your doing down on the southern border, with all your crossings and your bicycles. Better get it all done before the wall is built!
A. I won't live that long.

B. I would just tote a ladder and some wire snips.
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Old 03-19-19, 11:27 AM
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Not to worry, they only use ACME.
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I saw a coyote on my ride tonight. It was a pretty big size, like a German Shepherd. Thankfully it was more scared of me than I was of it. I yelled and he ran off.

This was, incidentally, in the residential Overton Park neighborhood on the west side of Fort Worth, right in town.
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The local (Detroit) news had a news segment yesterday with video of a mature, healthy looking coyote in a Detroit neighborhood. Rattled residents called the police, the police call DNR types who drove up, then drove off suggesting "so?" Nice looking animal, hope it's left alone. Folks were advised to keep an eye on their pets.
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg
The local (Detroit) news had a news segment yesterday with video of a mature, healthy looking coyote in a Detroit neighborhood. Rattled residents called the police, the police call DNR types who drove up, then drove off suggesting "so?" Nice looking animal, hope it's left alone. Folks were advised to keep an eye on their pets.
As I noted somewhere above, there have been thousands living in Cook County, IL (which includes Chicago) for years. Many live within the city itself.
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Middle coyote weighed 48 lbs..a big yote.
In North Carolina open season year round on hunting coyotes...we are over run with yotes. They kill young fawns, mature deer, cats, sheep, goats, chickens, small and medium sized dogs and larger older dogs. They are caggy stealthy hunters and hunt all the time when not in their dens nursing pups.
The lost dog or cat signs posted on telephone poles for the most part are likely coyote kills. Coyotes will hunt hedge rows of a field for cover and concealment. They run deer in packs. They fear humans more than humans fear them. The issue is they are cross breeding with wild dogs and reproducing a “coy dog” which is a much larger coyote. Not good.
Coyote hunting is interesting and very strategic.

Like most politicians, they eat will their own and are cannibals.
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Michigan also permits year-round coyote hunting. Naturally only in areas where hunting is permitted. Even night hunting is permitted with certain weapons restrictions.
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To be honest, I never thought the were very dangerous. I hear them often on my commute (in the morning) and I see them once-in-a-while but they are always running away or watching from a distance.

That being said, a little while ago, at the start of my early morning commute (still dark out) I was chased by a pack of coyotes. It felt like I was being "hunted".

Not sure if that was the case though.

It did scare me... Even wrote about it in a post on my newbie blog.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_attack
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Interesting reading, thanks. I must admit, my few personal encounters have been with lone, less than well fed looking coyote that were very timid in their behavior. Had I encountered, say three, well fed looking examples like the latest one videoed in Beverly Hills (Mich.) and they seemed to stand their ground, focused on me, I would likely be very concerned.
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That's why on my rides I carry this

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Originally Posted by Happy Feet
That's why on my rides I carry this

What might it be ?, all I see is a top tube bag, a computer, an aero bar and something else that isn’t clear in the photo.
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What might it be ?, all I see is a top tube bag, a computer, an aero bar and something else that isn’t clear in the photo.
Sorry,
Bear spray. Besides good wildlife safety habits, it's the best non lethal legal deterrent. Good for coyotes, bear, cougar, dogs, muggers and jackalopes

Technically, you aren't legally allowed to carry it for people as it then becomes a weapon but I think one could make a strong argument for self defense if you primarily carried it for animals but needed to use it to stop an unexpected assault as long as it wasn't an argument/pissing match considering the other options (gun knife) are often illegal to carry or lethal.
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I slept near Paulden, Arizona ((a bit North of Chino Valley), last night, and the coyotes were really raising heck. I yelled at them to stop, but they wouldn't listen. 🙄😁
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Sorry,
Bear spray. Besides good wildlife safety habits, it's the best non lethal legal deterrent. Good for coyotes, bear, cougar, dogs, muggers and jackalopes

Technically, you aren't legally allowed to carry it for people as it then becomes a weapon but I think one could make a strong argument for self defense if you primarily carried it for animals but needed to use it to stop an unexpected assault as long as it wasn't an argument/pissing match considering the other options (gun knife) are often illegal to carry or lethal.
I carry mine on my person most of the time, in case I get separated from the bike.
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