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Old 03-09-21, 01:14 PM
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1972 Raleigh Professional track bike

A part of the bike estate that scozim didn't photo was this Raleigh. Serial number begins with "G", dating it to 1972. The original owner had obviously used it for road riding with the front brake and more recent clincher rear wheel. I negotiated for the original undrilled fork and Record/AVA wheelset to match. Please forgive the running gear. In my excitement to test ride, I just pulled the first road wheel with a 23 tire to test.

Future plans are full teardown cleaning and to lace a basic silver clincher wheelset for the ocassional road ride, as well as some proper cotton bartape. The PO appears to have been a nearly identical size as me, the fit was nearly spot on after raising the saddle ~2mm.





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Heck of a find. Glad you were able to grab it. I assume that's the replacement fork on there? Cool bottle cage too - never seen one like that.
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
... I assume that's the replacement fork on there? Cool bottle cage too - never seen one like that.
-J

I have a second fork that closer matches the paint, with tall chrome socks and an undrilled crown. This one on it appears to be a slightly different shade of red.
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pretty cool!
it definitely needs some proper high-flange track hubs, though.

For anyone unfamiliar with the original glory (and sex appeal) of this model, here's the catalog page...



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(maybe replace that bar grip with some white cloth tape too)
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Probably my Grail bike right there. Nice.
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Gorgeous. Glad to see that Raleigh obviously put their all into the lugwork on these as opposed to the usual production bikes.

Is that the former owner's name on the stem? Evian?

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I have one that I believe is a 1971. I raced it a bit in the summer of 2014. I hardly ever ride it, but I still love it.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Is that the former owner's name on the stem? Evian?
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The 3ttt Record stems that were sized for 25.4 bars that came on early 70's higher-end Raleighs had that EVIAN stamping. Evian was the UK importer for 3TTT products back in the 70's.
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
The 3ttt Record stems that were sized for 25.4 bars that came on early 70's higher-end Raleighs had that EVIAN stamping. Evian was the UK importer for 3TTT products back in the 70's.
Gotcha. I've had precious little opportunity to see that many 3TTT Records, and the only one I do have didn't have its origins through a Raleigh. Good to know.

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Thought people might like to see the original fork. Took some pics this morning.



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Oh my, yes. That's the ticket.
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Oh man.
Enjoy!
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Very nice, when these arrived at a shop they were fitted with Clement No.3 silk track tires.
They were very scarce. Not available when I needed a track bike.
I considered ordering a Paramount, but they were backordered over a Year!
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
Heck of a find. Glad you were able to grab it. I assume that's the replacement fork on there? Cool bottle cage too - never seen one like that.
-J
It’s a Blackburn, sold in the 80s. Used the same hanger for an item called the rack stand, used to hold reading material while you were on the wind trainer. Dang, those things were loud!
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Oooh, very cool! My '71 is a little more primitive. No bb shell cutout, no fork tangs, still has Carlton decals. Same lugset, but semi-wrap seatstays i/o this full-wrap. Raleigh upped their game a little bit as they rolled into '72.

Mine has a brake-drilled fork crown, so I can ride with a front brake without swapping forks. But having the undisturbed original fork and a close-match drilled one is nicer.

I managed to get 32-584/650b wheels/tires to fit, which makes for a slightly smoother ride for this old sack o' bones. BB height on mine is sky-high, 55mm bb drop, so lowering the height doesn't cause any corner-strike problems. The Grand Bois Cypres Extra Leger tires get close to 34mm wide on the Pacenti Brevet rims, which are 19mm/23mm int/ext width. No crimps in the chainstays, so the wheel has to be all the way back in the ends to get chainstay clearance.

That Blackburn bar-mount cage is pretty neat. I don't remember ever having one, but have distinct memories of tightening that setscrew. Probably on a customer's bike back in the day. The solution I often use these days is the good ol' Minoura MB-1, which is a total pain in the rear end to install, but once installed and set, pretty solid and stable.

Got the '71 as a frameset, and for the first time in a long time I did first build it up pretty close to vintage catalog spec. Found my tolerance level pretty low for all that on a fixed gear for road riding, compared to a vintage road-bike build. So there are now some significant/glaring changes from catalog spec, but it's a bit more fun to ride this way.

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...I managed to get 32-584/650b wheels/tires to fit, which makes for a slightly smoother ride for this old sack o' bones. BB height on mine is sky-high, 55mm bb drop, so lowering the height doesn't cause any corner-strike problems. The Grand Bois Cypres Extra Leger tires get close to 34mm wide on the Pacenti Brevet rims, which are 19mm/23mm int/ext width. No crimps in the chainstays, so the wheel has to be all the way back in the ends to get chainstay clearance....
Got the '71 as a frameset, and for the first time in a long time I did first build it up pretty close to vintage catalog spec. Found my tolerance level pretty low for all that on a fixed gear for road riding, compared to a vintage road-bike build. So there are now some significant/glaring changes from catalog spec, but it's a bit more fun to ride this way.

You and I have similar tastes. I've been wanting to do up a 650b fixed, even went so far as to build a brakeless wheelset.

Interestingly, this one has crimped stays and the BB drop is ~70mm. This past winter I had bought a dirt-cheap set of Maxxis 30mm tubulars that I can't decide whether to glue onto the original rims. I tried my tracklocross wheelset with 30mm clinchers and the fit is really good.

Now the decision is to run an incredibly garish set of yellow deepVs to be able to ride it or glue a set of ugly(giant yellow "Maxxis" written on the sidewall) wide tubulars onto the original wheels.
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Its beautiful. Props to the original owner for not drilling the fork also, that would be a crime.
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I liked the color combo of turquoise and white very much.
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Oh yeah, I didn't notice the stay crimps and less-horizontal chainstay angle before. Add that to the list of changes/updates/improvements from '71 to '72. Dang, how much easier my setup would've been if mine was a '72.

If mine fit 30-622s, given the high bb, I _might_ consider 38-584s. But I'd be well and happy riding it as-is with 30mm 700c tires. 26-622 up front was tight on mine.

I'm not necessarily qualified to advise on questions of taste. I'm libertarian when it comes to component choices, especially for riders. But, but, but....that is a very classy sled.

I'd definitely put whatever is on-hand and fits/works to get it ridden. Yellow, deep-v, almost anything goes. But t'were it mine, I'd want to hold out for some nicer tubs to glue on the original wheels. Veloflex is selling direct from Italy at seemingly attractive prices, folks have gotten quick delivery with no hassle. The Pro Tour maxes out at 28mm, but they'd be plush and pretty. I don't know what's up with Challenge width-wise, other brands, etc. FMB I'm guessing is real pricey?

Then again, I've got an aero brake lever, aero dummy lever, 'cross lever and a zip-tied Austin Powers on mine, none of which is kosher, era-appropriate or particularly classy.

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You and I have similar tastes. I've been wanting to do up a 650b fixed, even went so far as to build a brakeless wheelset.

Interestingly, this one has crimped stays and the BB drop is ~70mm. This past winter I had bought a dirt-cheap set of Maxxis 30mm tubulars that I can't decide whether to glue onto the original rims. I tried my tracklocross wheelset with 30mm clinchers and the fit is really good.

Now the decision is to run an incredibly garish set of yellow deepVs to be able to ride it or glue a set of ugly(giant yellow "Maxxis" written on the sidewall) wide tubulars onto the original wheels.
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Originally Posted by Dylansbob
A part of the bike estate that scozim didn't photo was this Raleigh. Serial number begins with "G", dating it to 1972.
I have one, same frame sized, 26 yrs in my service, most years as my primary 'road' bike. I have fotos but havent met a 10post rule
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You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites and photos after you have made 10 posts or more].on BikeForums and am blocked from uploading.
Have original[26yrs+] cranks, BB, seat-post, saddle, bars, and wheels, etc. Still ride the wheels, but most other components subbed out for better fit & road suitable # A8822
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Always 700c tubulars
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Front end has adapter post, Ti toiray chinese ahead stem
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46cc bars, wanted wide but this was experimental.
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