Locomotief

A few years ago I bought a bunch of french bikes out of a field. One of them is this Peugeot. I've modified it a little over the years. But I'm curious what age it is. The head badge was used from 1947 until the 1960 I think. I've seen a bunch of bikes online but none with these lugs on them.

Maybe someone has more info.

These are the only pictures on my phone. Bike is in a other city. If needed I can make some more pictures next time I'm there.

francophile 

Crazy guess here, but I'm pretty sure the PH10 was oen of the only models with that specific stripe around the head tube behind the badge. Looks early 50s to me.

If you're feeling adventurous, BikeBoomPeugeot's French catalog section goes back almost a full century: Brochures - France

PS - very cool and tasteful updates here, thanks for sharing.

juvela

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Thank you for posting this find.

Feature cut of headlugs is NERVEX pattern Nr. 45.

Nozzle cut not shown well enough in images provided to identify.

The most common nozzle cut encountered with the Nr. 45 is the Nr. 159.

Additional images will help readers to give more and better information about the bicycle.

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Locomotief

Thanks guys,

I'm totally new to all the frame stuff. I always thought that peugeot had there own lugs they used. I have a two more bikes from the field with similar lugs curious if they have the same type.
Thanks for the link.

bikemig 

I'd like to own that bike just for the awesome headbadge,

gbi

Might be a late 1940s to early 1950s precursor of the PX10.

Please, I would like to see the other frames.

I also would like to find a field like the one mentioned.

Locomotief

It where more than 10 bikes bought them sight unseen but most where beyond saving. The peugeot was one of my favorite bikes. It even has the name tag of the previous owner.

But there's one thing I've been ignoring the last twi years about the bike. It's not my size...

Locomotief

the one in the front was in the field to. I sold the white mixte bicycle. The others are still with me. The purple Peugeot will go to my oldest daughter when she's big enough. I kept one more German bike and a motobecane. And there's a pile of frames in my workshop that need to get scraped.

gbi

Thank you!

juvela

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Thank you for these photos!

What make is the berceau?

It still has its head and downtube transfers but they can no be read from the picture.

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Hope you have or can locate some guidonnets for the last machine.

What is its make?

"I don't think we have fields or vacant lots like this in America."

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gbi

Juvela, probably the closest I could get to this in America would be a field of dreams.

crank_addict

Nice! Interesting and challenge to nail the year of production.

I'm of belief that headbadge was last used in 1958 including the head tube wrap stripe. Yet this bike appears earlier, although one would've expected the MAFAC Dural Forge and not 'Racer' brakes as the experts say they became available in '59 or '60. I'm not in full agreement with the experts who documented MAFAC dateline and one should refer old catalogs.

Its possible the brakes were changed but it sure looks correct and original including knurled rims. My guess its 1957 or '58.

Looking forward to more of it.

John E

You need a direct lever (suicide) shift for the front.

Locomotief

the make of the berceau is still a mystery. No lettering on the bike survived the years outside. I sold the bike two years ago. It was a to big of a project for me.

And the other machine is complete. guidonnets are in the attic.

And I was surprised to find a field of bikes to my old boss moved there and found them. He sent me some pictures of an overgrown pile of bikes and asked me if I wanted them. He even brought them to my place in his vintage citroen HY. there might be some more bikes in a barn of his neighbour. But I've been to busy to go look.

Locomotief

The brakes are not the original ones. I really like the look of the mafac brakes. This where the originals:


Velobase dates them between 1940 and 1950 does that make sense?

Locomotief

Some more pictures off the peugeot in it's current state.


different view off the front off the bike.


the motobecane crank was on it when I got it. Made modern suicide shifter on it. It doesn't make sense but I like the look off it.




a better view off the decals.


I'm not sure what brand the stem is but it's the coolest one I have. The stem and the steering wheel where on the bike.

Locomotief

#juvela seems your spot on about the nervex lugs and number 45 and 159

Locomotief

the make off the last machine. There is some info online but in french. Not my cup off tea.

gbi

That stem is nice! Fork may not be original, steerer tube looks too long.
Lam brakes are probably original.
Frame tubes may be Helium.
Was possibly a 4 or 5 speed originally, no front deraillure.
More likely 1940s than 1950s bike.

francophile 

And where is this barn currently?

It's looking like I need to go back to Lausanne CH again soon for work. I plan on doing some diving in some of the surrounding barns when I get over there, see if I can unearth any goodies!

francophile 

I don't even bother looking up lugs anymore. Talk about a walking Rolodex of lugwork...

And that stem! Ooh la vache! It's the same one big chainring posted about over here!!!!: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...h-stem-id.html

Locomotief

Well spotted #francophile but the old owner came from Lausanne but that's not where I found the bike I'm afraid😉. But checking out barns there never hurts.

Locomotief

And that stem! Ooh la vache! It's the same one big chainring posted about over here!!!!: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...h-stem-id.html[/QUOTE]

So the stem remains a mystery......

Locomotief

I had my doubts about the front fork to. The paint on the fork looks different then the paint on the rest of the bike. I still have the wheels it came with in my workshop. I'll have a look next time I'm there.
and thanks for the estimate #gbi

Before I left my other place today I noticed this:

There's a number on the frame. I did a little check online but it's hard to find any data about the early bikes and there numbers. The 3 on it's back on top of the 2 is a little strange.

francophile 

I really wanted to find out more. We literally stopped at that thread.

It's a small world

I've been traveling to Lausanne, Cheseaux, Crissier, Montreaux and a nearby other places for work purposes during the past 18-20 years. I try to do as much localized hunting as possible while there, but sometimes work is on short deadlines, so it's not always possible. And I'm often leaving little pieces behind with friends and colleagues to store if I can't hand-carry everything

It seems like I've seen a big transition in what people are riding during that period. You don't often see classic steel anywhere. In year 2000, 1 in 50 bikes I would see was some nicer Swiss brand like Cilo or Mondia and some historical French migrants. Now, it's all crap from Taiwan. Sad times! I support they're all hiding in fields and barns