SS Specific Frame or Converted Road Frame with Tensioner?
08-27-20, 08:15 PM
#27
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White industries makes them: ENOWI ? White Industries
They use their own splined track cogs, which I honestly think is a better interface than thread-on.
They use their own splined track cogs, which I honestly think is a better interface than thread-on.
08-27-20, 08:28 PM
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Track frames are great. I have a few. But conversions with horizontal/semi-horizontal dropouts are no harder to set up and usually come with multiple bottle bosses which you don't always find on track bikes. Also road conversion allow a greater flexibility of angles and ride characteristics. I don't find most (steel) conversions to be harder to build up than their track counterparts.
There is a lack of options for rear hubs with the correct road spacing, re-spacing the frame is a risk and possible with steel.
Then depending on what route you took, you have to worry about the chain-line alignment.
Vertical dropouts are most common with road frames, which would a certain adjustment on top of all the former. I could be missing a few other things as I haven't gotten that far personally.
08-27-20, 08:54 PM
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For road frame conversion, I've found chain stay clearance to be the biggest headache.
There is a lack of options for rear hubs with the correct road spacing, re-spacing the frame is a risk and possible with steel.
Then depending on what route you took, you have to worry about the chain-line alignment.
Vertical dropouts are most common with road frames, which would a certain adjustment on top of all the former. I could be missing a few other things as I haven't gotten that far personally.
There is a lack of options for rear hubs with the correct road spacing, re-spacing the frame is a risk and possible with steel.
Then depending on what route you took, you have to worry about the chain-line alignment.
Vertical dropouts are most common with road frames, which would a certain adjustment on top of all the former. I could be missing a few other things as I haven't gotten that far personally.
I have a 120mm hub on a 126mm spaced frame. Have been using track hub with spacers for hundreds of miles, no issues at all.
08-27-20, 09:19 PM
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A real plus if you can find it is a bike with horizontal dropouts, ie the dropouts used before vertical dropouts became the standard. Makes pulling wheels out faster and easier. Also allows for fenders and no hassle wheel removal with the fenders on.
Now finding a frame with horizontal dropouts that is light and aero - well, good luck. I feel strongly enough about it that I had a titanium frame built with dropouts I spec'd. (Not aero but stiff and reasonably light.) I've been riding fix gears 40 years and have zero interest in ever owning a bike with track ends for road use. I now use flip-flop wheels and flip them often. (4 times last ride.)
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Now finding a frame with horizontal dropouts that is light and aero - well, good luck. I feel strongly enough about it that I had a titanium frame built with dropouts I spec'd. (Not aero but stiff and reasonably light.) I've been riding fix gears 40 years and have zero interest in ever owning a bike with track ends for road use. I now use flip-flop wheels and flip them often. (4 times last ride.)
Ben
08-27-20, 09:50 PM
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A real plus if you can find it is a bike with horizontal dropouts, ie the dropouts used before vertical dropouts became the standard. Makes pulling wheels out faster and easier. Also allows for fenders and no hassle wheel removal with the fenders on.
Now finding a frame with horizontal dropouts that is light and aero - well, good luck. I feel strongly enough about it that I had a titanium frame built with dropouts I spec'd. (Not aero but stiff and reasonably light.)
Now finding a frame with horizontal dropouts that is light and aero - well, good luck. I feel strongly enough about it that I had a titanium frame built with dropouts I spec'd. (Not aero but stiff and reasonably light.)
Also, anyone know of any triple triangle frames that are still available? All the ones I seem to come across are no longer being made.
08-28-20, 09:43 AM
#32
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Spacers? Two 3 or 5mm spacers per side. Easy peasy. Chainline is fine as track hubs are 42mm anyway. Only if you are reusing the road cranks would you have to play with BB width.
I have a 120mm hub on a 126mm spaced frame. Have been using track hub with spacers for hundreds of miles, no issues at all.
I have a 120mm hub on a 126mm spaced frame. Have been using track hub with spacers for hundreds of miles, no issues at all.
Cranks I'm aware a large option of 144bcd (track specific/common size) would not fit most road frame chain stay. Now I'm limited in the options of crankset to choose from. OP looking to build custom would mean having the most range of options is ideal rather than limiting off the bat to a small amount of crankset/hub type which would work.
My original post only mentioned my opinion which track is simpler to build up. I believe the average person doesn't have the tools at disposal/component knowledge to convert to road specific. It would save considerable amount of time and patience researching what would work. Or money if they take it to a professional/source tools/trial and error with cranksets/bb.
08-31-20, 01:59 PM
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https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...ame-raw-flamed
You can reach out to Scrodzilla here to ask him for information on it. The one I saw had the "raw" look and you may or may not find that appealing.
08-31-20, 02:45 PM
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Check out retro-gression.com to see a triple-triangle frame.
https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...ame-raw-flamed
You can reach out to Scrodzilla here to ask him for information on it. The one I saw had the "raw" look and you may or may not find that appealing.
https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...ame-raw-flamed
You can reach out to Scrodzilla here to ask him for information on it. The one I saw had the "raw" look and you may or may not find that appealing.
08-31-20, 02:50 PM
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Also, I've been on the fence about track frame vs. road frame, but I happened to get on CL a few hours ago and found a 2015 Cannondale Super Six Evo carbon frame setup for Di2. So I literally just got back from picking that up for $240. Prob won't go full weight weenie on it, since I can't afford to, but it's certainly a nice light starting point.
