noodle soup

I'm aware of that, but wondered why you decided to do so.

noodle soup

This is true, but there are far better ways to drop weight.

Timo

Weight wasn't the main reason: those early Shimano STI front shifters were hard to fine-tune. Riders used a down tube shifter on their climbing bikes to avoid chain rub on the front derailleur.

jtaylor996

cycledogg

Not.

kbarch

I'm tired of Enve, and never cared much for mostly black bikes, or C'dales, but as such bikes go, I find this one mildly attractive. Not hot, but not not, either. Wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating crackers, as they say

ckindt

Did you wash the dishes and take the trash out?

Sidney Porter

Is this hot for a 12 year old in 6th grade?

noodle soup

Not hot, but mostly because of the setup of the saddle and bars(the handlebar setup issue could be just due to the photograph).

noodle soup

The placement of the levers is a little off(too high), but I would have loved that bike when I was 12.

noodle soup

Tired of ENVE? Please explain.

Sidney Porter

The levers are too high. But that is where he was most comfortable on the hoods. He also picked the splash. Kids....

jtaylor996

Yeah, pic is taken from below the bike. Handlebars are pretty up there, though. The bars and saddle are the result of a retul ($$$) bike fit just a couple of weeks ago. I'm not going to mess that up just to take a picture, though. The intent is to lower the bars more and more as my flexibility improves... but it's just not there yet, and I ride this bike too much to leave it set up for looks.

In fact now that I put the shorter quarq cranks on there I should be OK'd for raising the saddle up another 5mm in a few weeks. It's lower than optimal for knee extension/flexion, but if you optimize for that my tracking goes to crap. So this for now while I learn a different stroke technique, shorter cranks, 10mm longer stem, and then after I get used to (and loosen up my hamstrings) then we can go up to the proper seat hight.

jtaylor996

I hate the black bikes, too. But I think matte black makes a great base for color. I started with black ENVE decals, and it was just too black for me, then I went green, and they didn't match the frame, and now I've settled on white, and I like that a bunch.

noodle soup

I was talking about the nose down angle of the saddle. That usually leads to pressure on the hands, and numbness in the groin. The bars also look rotated up to compensate for the slope of the saddle. Both could just be due to the photo. I doubt a competent fitter would setup a bike they way it appears from that vantage point. It's probably just the photo.

kbarch

I really don't know much about the stuff except that it seems like all some people have to do is show an Enve decal and folks start drooling like Pavlov's dog. It's tiresome, and I think it's a stupid name. You asked.

Doge

Getting ready for a fast Easter Sunday Como Street ride tomorrow. A few oz under 14#.

noodle soup

it is a stupid name, but they ran into copyright issues under the original name (Edge) so it was was changed slightly.

I can't help you with hating the product though. They make great products, but now I'm also a little tired of they way they are treating companies that buy their tubing.

They gave me some hoops a few years ago, but now the have gotten a bit full of themselves.

jtaylor996

Yeah, it might be slightly nose down, depending on how you measure things. If you measure a line from nose to tail through the middle it'll be flat, but if you measure nose to the side flares it will be slightly nose down. That's the shape of this thing.

We used the geobomized (or however you spell it) saddle pressure mapping. We also tried like 7 saddles before we found this one. We also did the 3D saddle angle mapping on it (part of the retul process). It's 100% confirmed to be setup where it's not putting any extra pressure on the hands. A GOOD fitter is going to use tools to measure every aspect of the setup, and NOT just go by some dumb rule of thumb about the saddle angle.

noodle soup

I simply stated that some things look a little off, but blamed the photo (not the fitter).

BTW, don't judge the fitter's competence until you get some real miles in.

gorn1120

Hot

Bike looks great! I'm still awaiting purchase of a road bike, but I figured I'd still participate.

garysol1 

Don't see a thing I would change..... Hot!

Doge

Participating in Como, you need a road bike. BF, you need a computer.

GuyDebord

@ Evo: A bit Frankensteinish to my likings, Enve stem, 3t seat post, Zipp wheels..... but the worst mistake are the valve caps, why??

Lasrsktr

This was a spare parts build of sorts. Hence the frankenbike appearance. All the matching Enve was moved over to the S-Works and just put what I had in the closet on this To get it rolling again.

And some people (like myself) like having the valve stem caps. The weight is negligible and not having my valves corroded shut from the marine air is a very nice thing.