who has the right of way?
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Sure, I think I get you and agree. I used a word that doesn't apply. I'm not a bad cyclist. Maybe I'm just a bad writer.
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For Europe - if there is a road, you needn't look where it leads to (a parking lot, or a motorway), you needn't look if it's wider than the road you're on, you just need to look whether it has a yield/stop sign, or not. If it doesn't, the law requires you to give right of way to the vehicle on your right.
Parking lots, roundabouts etc. have yield signs, if not - it's the right hand rule.
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For Europe - if there is a road, you needn't look where it leads to (a parking lot, or a motorway), you needn't look if it's wider than the road you're on, you just need to look whether it has a yield/stop sign, or not. If it doesn't, the law requires you to give right of way to the vehicle on your right.
In North America, in my experience, most roads have some sort of signage. So if the street I am on has no stop sign, I assume the crossing street does. I don't go out of my way looking for it.
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In practice, sometimes, drivers on the main road have also a sign giving them right of way, but not always. Our law states that in situations where (this is a bit tongue in cheek) lower speed and caution from drivers on the main road is required, a sign giving them right of way is deliberately omitted, forcing them to slow down and check the signs on the road they are crossing.
I don't know about laws in the USA, but in Europe, if you don't have a right of way sign, you need to check the street you are crossing. If it doesn't have a stop/yield sign, you need to give the vehicles on your right the right of way.
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In WA this is correct UNLESS one of the roads is classified as an arterial. (which is something you just have to know, there are no signs for that). Arterials have the right of way.
It's not clear to me if both the roads in this T are even roads at all (vs lanes in a parking lot).
It's not clear to me if both the roads in this T are even roads at all (vs lanes in a parking lot).
edit: But I despise how virtually no neighborhood intersections have a stop or yield sign out here.
If your laws differ, I have no argument there.
For Europe - if there is a road, you needn't look where it leads to (a parking lot, or a motorway), you needn't look if it's wider than the road you're on, you just need to look whether it has a yield/stop sign, or not. If it doesn't, the law requires you to give right of way to the vehicle on your right.
Parking lots, roundabouts etc. have yield signs, if not - it's the right hand rule.
For Europe - if there is a road, you needn't look where it leads to (a parking lot, or a motorway), you needn't look if it's wider than the road you're on, you just need to look whether it has a yield/stop sign, or not. If it doesn't, the law requires you to give right of way to the vehicle on your right.
Parking lots, roundabouts etc. have yield signs, if not - it's the right hand rule.
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Not convinced about the nordic countries, but won't bother looking up their laws and reading them. As for Hungary, Germany, Italy, Croatia - all (have to) bother with signs. Being on a bigger road doesn't give one right of way there without a sign.
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- Traffic from right hand has right of way (unless signs or lights). You must yield to traffic from any road to your right, except from separate areas such as parking lots, market square, pedestrian zone, and petrol stations.
- Traffic on roads with the standard "Yellow Diamond" sign has the right of way. This is widely used for main roads. Traffic from connecting roads will then see the give-way (yield) or stop sign.
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Driving_in_Norway
But California vehicle codes agree with the Clallam sheriff.
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