At what temp does a water bottle freeze up?
11-20-17, 09:57 AM
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One, it may not work as well as you'd want it too. The bottle will freeze from the outside in. The mouth piece may still freeze shut.
Two, carrying a bottle upside down is could be problematic with a snap on cap. Pulling it out of the cage could catch the cap and pull it off. I suspect that a cold ride would get colder if you are drenched in water
Three, you could turn the cage upside down to avoid catching the lid but that make access harder and the bottle would be rather prone to being ejected.
A Camelbak has lots of advantages over a plain water bottle. I just wish that they make winter packs for cyclists. This one is close but it's missing some features.
A couple of years ago, I found this insulation sleeve for my Camelbak Blowfish. It works really well down to about 10°F. It works better if you blow the water back into the pack and/or drink more often.
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so I couldn't even test it out.
11-20-17, 02:39 PM
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Keep your second bottle in your middle jersey pocket, under your jacket.
+1 on upside down bottles
+1 on Gatorade, etc as anti-freeze
+1 on insulated bottles
+1 on starting with hot water
+1 on upside down bottles
+1 on Gatorade, etc as anti-freeze
+1 on insulated bottles
+1 on starting with hot water
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Good answers so far. Just throwing out there that sunlight will affect things too. If it's a sunny 20 degrees freezing will take longer than a cloudy day at the same temperature. I don't think anyone mentioned that.
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I was originally thinking of making something out of old wool socks, but Neoprene (like the one pictured) is a good idea. I bet I could easily cut and sew one of those cheap $4 neoprene laptop cases from Amazon...
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There is another advantage to that, which you might not think about at first. I have some fabric surrounding my own cages, not for insulation but just to hold stuff when I'm not carrying water! Keys, beanie, rain jacket, whatever, even a phone, and nothing has ever bounced out.
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There are some provisos to worry about using this method.
One, it may not work as well as you'd want it too. The bottle will freeze from the outside in. The mouth piece may still freeze shut.
Two, carrying a bottle upside down is could be problematic with a snap on cap. Pulling it out of the cage could catch the cap and pull it off. I suspect that a cold ride would get colder if you are drenched in water
Three, you could turn the cage upside down to avoid catching the lid but that make access harder and the bottle would be rather prone to being ejected.
A Camelbak has lots of advantages over a plain water bottle. I just wish that they make winter packs for cyclists. This one is close but it's missing some features.
A couple of years ago, I found this insulation sleeve for my Camelbak Blowfish. It works really well down to about 10°F. It works better if you blow the water back into the pack and/or drink more often.
One, it may not work as well as you'd want it too. The bottle will freeze from the outside in. The mouth piece may still freeze shut.
Two, carrying a bottle upside down is could be problematic with a snap on cap. Pulling it out of the cage could catch the cap and pull it off. I suspect that a cold ride would get colder if you are drenched in water
Three, you could turn the cage upside down to avoid catching the lid but that make access harder and the bottle would be rather prone to being ejected.
A Camelbak has lots of advantages over a plain water bottle. I just wish that they make winter packs for cyclists. This one is close but it's missing some features.
A couple of years ago, I found this insulation sleeve for my Camelbak Blowfish. It works really well down to about 10°F. It works better if you blow the water back into the pack and/or drink more often.
Camelbaks are nice until the hose freezes. The best option is to get a small camelback pack (or the Revelate Wampak) and keep it under your jacket as close to the base layer as you can. You will usually have to route the hose over the shoulder. Blowing back will help a lot. But you will still run into hose freezing issues. Not all the time, but it will happen.
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I'm also somewhat confused about how the "upside down trick" in a frame pack. Frame packs I've owned wouldn't allow for the bottle to be kept in any kind of orientation. The bottle would just bounce around in the bag.
Camelbaks are nice until the hose freezes. The best option is to get a small camelback pack (or the Revelate Wampak) and keep it under your jacket as close to the base layer as you can. You will usually have to route the hose over the shoulder. Blowing back will help a lot. But you will still run into hose freezing issues. Not all the time, but it will happen.
Drinking regularly helps keep the ice down as well.
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found pics of frozen water bottles. from 1/23/16
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additional info - NOT 27 degrees
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At what temp does a water bottle freeze up?
Note that the frozen bottle contains carbonated water, which probably depresses the freezing point, but I think the situation is still a good definition of a cold ride.
was wondering the other night, riding in 30 degrees, at what temp will a regular water bottle freeze up after only 30 minutes of riding? I'm guessing 17 degrees
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