Gitane Interclub early 70s
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About the brakes, this may be obvious but I'll type it anyway. The front cable should go behind the bar so that it fits into the hanger running straight down instead of at an angle. I'm surprised the shop you bought it from didn't know that. But then, maybe they've never seen a traditional centerpull brake!
About the lever position, I've always positioned the levers more or less "correctly" but never by measuring them. In the old days before I started hearing things like "you're supposed to do it like this" I did it by what seemed right by eye. It's somewhat arbitrary anyway. Different levers are different lengths with different bends, bars are different, etc. Whats seems comfortable can depend on the reach and the TT length and the bar angle. So the exact position of the brake on the slowly curving bar doesn't seem worth the worry.
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It's nice as an original specimen I guess- the Gitane Super Corsa I got in '71 came with a plastic saddle like that that had some kind of inscription etched in- wasn't so bad, but I switched to Unicanitor as soon as they were available in my world shortly after- with a leather cover over the plastic-
I later somehow got a plastic one in some race that looked just like your original- It had that little too much slope to it somehow, and I had it on a beater first and then Dad had it on his first built up bike after- we agreed it was the WORST saddle ever- called it "the butt breaker"- even at 19 years or so, it was a guaranteed sore pain in the A.
"If it was me"- those irritating words, I know- I'd want to lighten up everything I could- alloy seat post, alloy crankset, side pull brakes- and lose those hangers- make room for a nifty little clean allen seat binder
probably some brakes in modern gold anno- something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AGE-GOLD...item3a7ebc18cf
Not sure they'd fit though- just never liked either center pull or Mafac.
anyway not to discourage- that's just my eternal racing obbsession with weight and knowing what works
it's a clean vintage look otherwise- you should be proud
I might think about clear coating it- the decals are like mine were, and they are a bit sensitive and scratch easily.
I later somehow got a plastic one in some race that looked just like your original- It had that little too much slope to it somehow, and I had it on a beater first and then Dad had it on his first built up bike after- we agreed it was the WORST saddle ever- called it "the butt breaker"- even at 19 years or so, it was a guaranteed sore pain in the A.
"If it was me"- those irritating words, I know- I'd want to lighten up everything I could- alloy seat post, alloy crankset, side pull brakes- and lose those hangers- make room for a nifty little clean allen seat binder
probably some brakes in modern gold anno- something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AGE-GOLD...item3a7ebc18cf
Not sure they'd fit though- just never liked either center pull or Mafac.
anyway not to discourage- that's just my eternal racing obbsession with weight and knowing what works
it's a clean vintage look otherwise- you should be proud
I might think about clear coating it- the decals are like mine were, and they are a bit sensitive and scratch easily.
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Nice looking bike, I liked the Interclub Gitanes when we had a dealer here in the early 70's. That saddle looks like the same one my 72 Bottecchia Special came with new. Harpon describes the feeling it gave this 15 y.o. kid a new outlook on pain perfectly.
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"If I were you" again
I'd maybe get in some extra decals while I could- and not a bad price-
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1-set-of...item2a26491702
I'd maybe get in some extra decals while I could- and not a bad price-
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1-set-of...item2a26491702
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Beautiful example of a fine bike. Those running around Erie was why I was building sew-up wheels for Raleigh Super Courses. They cost the same back then, $150.00
Definitely keep it original, or as original as you can. I can definitely see the worthwhile-ness of building up a second set of 700C clincher wheels for more urban riding. If you match the hubs, you can swap out without any retuning in the derailleurs. I remember those bikes coming with Simplex Prestige as standard, but we're talking the bike boom. Manufacturers were slapping bloody well anything on to their frames just to get more, more, more bikes out the door.
Also, you've got a minor miracle there: A 40 year old Gitane with a complete paint job. Rank that up there with a Jesuit pope.
Definitely keep it original, or as original as you can. I can definitely see the worthwhile-ness of building up a second set of 700C clincher wheels for more urban riding. If you match the hubs, you can swap out without any retuning in the derailleurs. I remember those bikes coming with Simplex Prestige as standard, but we're talking the bike boom. Manufacturers were slapping bloody well anything on to their frames just to get more, more, more bikes out the door.
Also, you've got a minor miracle there: A 40 year old Gitane with a complete paint job. Rank that up there with a Jesuit pope.
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I took it for a longer test ride today, but after about 5 miles the fixed cup started to work loose. I had to shorten the ride to 13 miles and finger tighten the cup a couple of times on the way home. Barring this problem, the Interclub rode very nicely.
The Gitane is not likely to be commuter. I like the tubular wheels, the paint job and the brooks saddle too much to subject it the rough and tumble world of urban riding. I have 6 bikes, this one is my vintage ride, I plan to keep it as is.
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I bought it on ebay from a shop in Nebraska. They said in the description that all they did was replace the cables, put on new bar tape and give it a tune up. Sounds believable to me. They probably got it as a trade in, did some cheap cosmetic work on it, gave it a basic tune up and flipped it. I didn't pay a ton for it and it was packed professionally.
I don't mind giving it a little tlc. I bought it as a novelty; to mess with a cottered crank, center pull brakes and help expand my mechanical skills on a vintage bike. Although I will admit I'm not crazy about the idea of filing cotters to fit the crank. This Gitane is a project and time machine for me.
I don't mind giving it a little tlc. I bought it as a novelty; to mess with a cottered crank, center pull brakes and help expand my mechanical skills on a vintage bike. Although I will admit I'm not crazy about the idea of filing cotters to fit the crank. This Gitane is a project and time machine for me.
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I've filed a few cotters through the years. (Never as a bike shop employee though.) The hard part is maintaining the proper angle. Or at least the same angle on each side. I guess if I had a proper machine shop it would be easy, but without one I run about 50% success rate. It helps if you start with the proper size! Measure them before buying/ordering, not just the diameter but the amount of machining on the flat surface.
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What an incredible find! After a 1971 Varsity, I got a 1972 Interclub the same color green. Mine had an alloy Sugino Mxi crank, and steel clinchers. My plstic saddle(which I didn't mind at all) was ensripted "Frecca de Orr"...
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Ok, I hope nobody wants to throw rocks at me, but ...
I did some modifications to my Interclub. When I went for a ride a couple of weeks ago the left cottered crank arm started to loosen by the end of the ride so I decided two strikes and its out. I banged off the left arm with one blow with a hammer and punch when I came home. The right took three hits but came off with a slight mushrooming of the cotter. I would have stayed with the cottered if it had been trouble free.
I have a lust for the stronglight 93 so I decided to throw down for the stronglight crank puller instead of the cotter press. The chainrings on the Stronglight 93 (52/42) are better for me and my hilly rides than the old school 50/45 half step. The stronglight is period correct and let's not kid ourselves, that cottered crank was a boat anchor!
I installed a VO 113 bb which was a perfect fit. My Suntour Spirt fd's fixing bolt snapped when I was readjusting it to accommodate the 52 big ring. Fortunately the Spirt is readily available on ebay nos and dirt cheap.
I trimmed the brake cables down and added a water bottle cage. I had to file the tabs on the cage a little bit to fit the mounts, but I needed a mount.
Here are a couple of hub shots as requested
I need to add a retro bag as the finishing touch.
I can't wait to take the Gitane out for a ride this Sunday! I was talking to a coworker about this bike and she asked me if I had named it. I had to think about it for a few days, but I have decided to name it Louise after Louise Robert, Miss Corse 2012.
I did some modifications to my Interclub. When I went for a ride a couple of weeks ago the left cottered crank arm started to loosen by the end of the ride so I decided two strikes and its out. I banged off the left arm with one blow with a hammer and punch when I came home. The right took three hits but came off with a slight mushrooming of the cotter. I would have stayed with the cottered if it had been trouble free.
I have a lust for the stronglight 93 so I decided to throw down for the stronglight crank puller instead of the cotter press. The chainrings on the Stronglight 93 (52/42) are better for me and my hilly rides than the old school 50/45 half step. The stronglight is period correct and let's not kid ourselves, that cottered crank was a boat anchor!
I installed a VO 113 bb which was a perfect fit. My Suntour Spirt fd's fixing bolt snapped when I was readjusting it to accommodate the 52 big ring. Fortunately the Spirt is readily available on ebay nos and dirt cheap.
I trimmed the brake cables down and added a water bottle cage. I had to file the tabs on the cage a little bit to fit the mounts, but I needed a mount.
Here are a couple of hub shots as requested
I need to add a retro bag as the finishing touch.
I can't wait to take the Gitane out for a ride this Sunday! I was talking to a coworker about this bike and she asked me if I had named it. I had to think about it for a few days, but I have decided to name it Louise after Louise Robert, Miss Corse 2012.
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I bought it on ebay from a shop in Nebraska. They said in the description that all they did was replace the cables, put on new bar tape and give it a tune up. Sounds believable to me. They probably got it as a trade in, did some cheap cosmetic work on it, gave it a basic tune up and flipped it. I didn't pay a ton for it and it was packed professionally.
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Thanks guys! I'm pretty excited about the new look.
I bought the Gitane from Re-Cycle a Bike Shop in Omaha. As I wrote earlier, they packed it very professionally and when I unpacked the Gitane it was as if it was brand new (in a KHS box). I think the crank and bottom bracket issues were caused by riding the bike for 200 miles. I wish I had checked the tightness of the fixed cup when I received the bike. I wasn't aware of French bikes propensity for loosening.
The bb threads and cups were immaculate when I took it apart, although I did pit the spindle slightly when the fixed cup loosened on me a month ago. Otherwise it looked new from the factory. This bike was definitely not ridden a lot before it went in storage.
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My plastic saddle does say Frecca d'Or on the side too.
I bought the Gitane from Re-Cycle a Bike Shop in Omaha. As I wrote earlier, they packed it very professionally and when I unpacked the Gitane it was as if it was brand new (in a KHS box). I think the crank and bottom bracket issues were caused by riding the bike for 200 miles. I wish I had checked the tightness of the fixed cup when I received the bike. I wasn't aware of French bikes propensity for loosening.
The bb threads and cups were immaculate when I took it apart, although I did pit the spindle slightly when the fixed cup loosened on me a month ago. Otherwise it looked new from the factory. This bike was definitely not ridden a lot before it went in storage.
@ Bassgap
My plastic saddle does say Frecca d'Or on the side too.
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The Interclub looks fantastic, I'll stand in front of you to take any rocks that get thrown your way, let 'em fly if they dare. Your few changes are very well thought out and executed. You're doing a service to the C&V community in keeping the Interclub this nice and enjoying its ride and history. Please keep us updated in it as you can. I just cannot get over the paint's quality after this long.
My old LBS, back in the early 70's, Escambia Schwinn, carried Gitane and Bottecchia, I got my Botty there in 1972, certainly wish I had kept it, was the first shop here to bring in the European bikes. it was during the boom in the early 70's. I miss that place and the family that owned it, very much.
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My old LBS, back in the early 70's, Escambia Schwinn, carried Gitane and Bottecchia, I got my Botty there in 1972, certainly wish I had kept it, was the first shop here to bring in the European bikes. it was during the boom in the early 70's. I miss that place and the family that owned it, very much.
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JJS, that's a style-laden bike, for sure. The crank and BB upgrade is the sort any PO (or myself) might have done. So now are going to park your spiffy red eye-talian-style bikes?
Everybody knows that red bikes are faster, blue bikes are more comfortable. I'm not sure where green bikes fit into the spectrum, but it sure looks nice.
Everybody knows that red bikes are faster, blue bikes are more comfortable. I'm not sure where green bikes fit into the spectrum, but it sure looks nice.
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I predict a 2nd roadie with tubulars is likely in your future (almost too much fun/trouble for just 1 bike), try a better set of tires than the 3/$50. I run Continental Sprinters which can be 'affordable'.
And since you name your bikes, make it an English gentleman to accompany your French Louise.
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The Stronglight 93 is a perfect upgrade.
And, when you need it, you can even find a 38t ring for it!
Great bike!
And, when you need it, you can even find a 38t ring for it!
Great bike!
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1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
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