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Old 05-07-10, 06:37 AM
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How is it an observation of folks here and not yourself? You're the one who started the thread. Seemed this topic slipped away quite a while ago.
You're pretty spunky for a guy with so many broken bones. How are you feeling by the way?
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Profoundly incorrect.


There were MP3 players before the iPod. Did hardly anybody actually have one? The iPod ushered in the demise of the CD.


You'll see.
Let's make-believe that the iHop is revolutionary, just for poops and grins. When did they announce the release date? Do you have iApple's internal iSchedule? Do you really think that product shipped when iSteve thought it would? You think he didn't stand on some iTable in a conference room and berate some product manager about "how hard can it be to make a bigger iPhone?!?!?"
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Even if it was released in the near future (which won't happen), the prudent thing to do IMO would be to wait 6 months to year after it hits the market, for all the bugs to be fixed, the competitors to adjust their prices, etc.
If I used that approach, I still wouldn't have my Garmin 705.
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Originally Posted by patentcad


That's not much of a challenge WR.
He asked for a revolutionary product, not a repackaging of something a manufacturer already produces.

Edit: WR already said it...
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"how hard can it be to make a bigger iPhone?!?!?"
Calling the iPad 'a bigger iPhone' is like calling an F1 car 'a faster Corvette'. I do find all these pronouncements about the iPad from people that have no experience with the device rather amusing. If you don't think it's a revolutionary product, take one home for a couple of weeks. It is indeed, and this will be revealed to you. At some point.

In the meantime try not to destroy any BB's.
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro
He asked for a revolutionary product, not a repackaging of something a manufacturer already produces.

Edit: WR already said it...
I'd call you all idiots, but we're all on BF, so that would be the pot calling the kettle black.
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Any thread I'm involved with becomes an iPad Pissing Contest at some point.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Let's make-believe that the iHop is revolutionary, just for poops and grins. When did they announce the release date? Do you have iApple's internal iSchedule? Do you really think that product shipped when iSteve thought it would? You think he didn't stand on some iTable in a conference room and berate some product manager about "how hard can it be to make a bigger iPhone?!?!?"
Ok, that just made me laugh....Sorry, iLaugh
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The iPad isn't revolutionary, it's just Apple's version of a lot of what is out there put together.

Revolutionary would be if it vibrated when you watched porn on it. The iBrater.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Calling the iPad 'a bigger iPhone' is like calling an F1 car 'a faster Corvette'. I do find all these pronouncements about the iPad from people that have no experience with the device rather amusing. If you don't think it's a revolutionary product, take one home for a couple of weeks. It is indeed, and this will be revealed to you. At some point.
The fastest Corvette Nurburgring lap is 7:26. The fastest F1 Nurburgring lap is 7:22. One of those cars has air conditioning.

You're still dodging the schedule claim. The iPad can't have ever been vaporware because they chose not to risk it with an early date announcement. It's just a "hey, they'll be in stores Friday."

I'm not denying the iPad's significance. But it's not revolutionary, it's just the offering that all the apple fanbois flock towards, so it sells a bunch. Find me one person who bought an iPad that didn't already have an iPhone. It's an upgrade, without a phone.

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I have Polar CS600 power meters on my bikes. Now that I have gone Di2 internal wiring on my Cervelo SLC-SL, I really want to get rid of the wires so I am waiting for the vector. I hope my wait won't be long.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
The fastest Corvette Nurburgring lap is 7:26. The fastest F1 Nurburgring lap is 7:22. One of those cars has air conditioning.
That's actually rather impossible to believe considering that fact that a recent road test of a $1.5 million Ferrari super car in Road & Track included the car's lap time of a major Italian race track of about 76 seconds, along with the observation that F1 cars routinely turn 56 second lap times on the same course.

Corvettes matching the capability of matching F1 cars is rather unlikely. F1 cars feature 800-900 HP, unmatched aerodynamics and downforce capabilities, and they weigh <1500 lbs.

Do the math. Where do you get this stuff?
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Back on topic; Anybody have any insight on whether Metrigear's current goal of sometime in 2010 is at all likely?
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aaaaand you got into this thread how?
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It occurs to me that since F1 cars haven't raced at the Nurburgrung since the 70's, it's possible they're comparing a modern Corvette super car to a 30+ year old F1 car. That would explain a few things. I've driven the Nurburgrung and I can't even spell it.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
That's actually rather impossible to believe considering that fact that a recent road test of a $1.5 million Ferrari super car in Road & Track included the car's lap time of a major Italian race track of about 76 seconds, along with the observation that F1 cars routinely turn 56 second lap times on the same course.

Corvettes matching the capability of matching F1 cars is rather unlikely. F1 cars feature 800-900 HP, unmatched aerodynamics and downforce capabilities, and they weigh <1500 lbs.

Do the math. Where do you get this stuff?


In addition, any corvette that can do the nurburgring in less than eight seconds doesnt have air conditioning.
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro
He asked for a revolutionary product, not a repackaging of something a manufacturer already produces.

Edit: WR already said it...

I like his glasses at least. Reminds me of ben franklin.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
The fastest Corvette Nurburgring lap is 7:26. The fastest F1 Nurburgring lap is 7:22. One of those cars has air conditioning.
Looks like the best F1 time is 5:58. https://www.roadandtrack.com/racing/h...the_green_hell And it sounds like if an F1 team set out to beat that time, with appropriate tires and gear ratios, they could do better than that.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Find me one person who bought an iPad that didn't already have an iPhone. It's an upgrade, without a phone.
I know several, including myself.

You really don't get it. But your comprehension is not necessary.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Looks like the best F1 time is 5:58. https://www.roadandtrack.com/racing/h...the_green_hell And it sounds like if an F1 team set out to beat that time, with appropriate tires and gear ratios, they could do better than that.
That sounds more like it.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Calling the iPad 'a bigger iPhone' is like calling an F1 car 'a faster Corvette'. I do find all these pronouncements about the iPad from people that have no experience with the device rather amusing. If you don't think it's a revolutionary product, take one home for a couple of weeks. It is indeed, and this will be revealed to you. At some point.

In the meantime try not to destroy any BB's.
Saying that doing something other people have already done ie, the iPod ushered in the death of the CD, means that it's revolutionary, idnicates that you need a dictionary. It doesn't mean "We have a better marketing department and a super loyal base of fans that will buy anything that we produce."

And this Corvette thing is the worst analogy ever, it isn't AT ALL like calling an F1 car a faster Corvette, they are completely different, and that thing IS a big iPod Touch, plain and simple. That is like calling the Corvette ZR-1 a faster Corvette. Which it is.
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