kburks1230

I just picked up an 86’ Schwinn Paramount in Fireball Red, 57cm frame. It has a Campagnolo Triompe crankset, Record clincher wheels, Victory shifters/FD/RD & Victory Brakes.

The frame is in excellent condition and everything else is clean and ready to ride.

I would love some rough valuations.

Colnago Mixte

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trailangel

What about that lock around the top tube?

StarBiker

$5?

ramzilla

Mid 80's PDG Paramounts generally fetch about 1/2 what ones with a better pedigree get. Where was this Paramount made?

kburks1230

Its a Waterford frame. The bike was built by a Scwinn dealer in south FL that no longer exists.

Barrettscv 

$300 to $400. What tubing was used? Columbus SL or SLX?

ramzilla

With a Waterford frame it could be worth around $1000. Deduct a few hundred for it's current condition. So, maybe $700 - $800 as is.

DMC707

Nice find�� In your other thread you indicated you paid $300 for it------ you got a real solid deal, The frameset looks like it will clean up nice

I think if you cleaned it up a bit and serviced the bearings, replaced the cables, -- you could double your money ---- or better yet, do all of that and keep and ride a classic with the pride of knowing you restored a neglected old classic to former glory and got a decent entry price point to boot

I think $600 or so really is close to the ceiling with a Victory/Triomphe parts selection (the differences between those 2 groups are trivial to me)

The parts are definitely worth keeping on as a rider, - anything (well, almost anything) Campagnolo made is beautiful, rugged and worth keeping around, and its unfair to call Victory a "mid range" group , but the max $$ value typically comes with the SR group and for this bike , C-Record or a mid-late 80's Chorus group --- however the price to compile all of those parts to retrofit it would put you out of the value zone in a hurry

zukahn1 

I would say around $600 with most of the value being in the frame set in it's current condition with sightly mixed lesser Campy components. It is a really nice frame but it's hard to get more than $500-600 for a 80's road bike with condition or mixed components in most markets.

Chombi1 

Please seriously consider not using/wrapping that cable lock around your bike's frame. The finish on the bike lasted many years in great condition. No sense in nowe subjecting it to things that can scratch it up badly....

wrk101

This.....

Getting that price may take ebay. Sold a 1986 frame and fork for $675 on fleece bay earlier this year.

Although Triomphe is lower end, anything Campy brings good money.

+10 Ditch that cable before you damage TT.

kburks1230

Thanks from everyone for the input! I took that lock off as soon as I got her home last week. It's a lot nicer cleaned up than I had expected. I plan to keep the bike and ride her around town as my comfort road bike set up with a less aggressive posture than my other bike. To someone who asked it's Columbus tubing. I just posted another thread trying to figure out what tools i'm going to need to tear down the crankset and hubs. I'm totally new to the bike world but I've done a lot of similar mechanical work on other projects. I'm starting from scratch and there are a lot of terms and tools I've never heard of!

TugaDude

Park Tools website is a good resource as well as videos on Youtube. And lots of nice folks here can help.

kburks1230

Guys,

The bike is really cleaning up nicely. Im just waiting for my new Pasela gumwall tires and my used Brooks saddle to arrive. Ive got the shifters and brakes working super smooth. Here are some progress pics.

coolkat

Looks awesome! Nice job on the cleanup!

StarBiker

I bet the seller was happy. Nice bike, but I am guessing the prices quoted are Ebay, or California prices.

kburks1230

The LBS offered me $450 for it before I cleaned it up.

StarBiker

Great. I don't know where you are located. I am sure the seller was happy to move it, and get the money instead of screwing around with the supposed value of the bike.
Again, Ebay, or CA. Where else? And I am not talking about $400, I am talking about $600+.

I had an employee at an LBS (Race Pace) say he would pay $400 for my old Trek 660. Another employee of the same shop has continually complemented me on the bike.
Still CL was a pretty easy place to flip bikes, and now it's not.

leoner

The lower end Campy stuff might bring down the selling price. If you are looking to sell it, might do better selling the frame separate from the parts.

jamesdak 

That did clean up well. These are very good rides although mine seems to flex a little in the rear when I really romp on it. Very comfortable though and I'm sure you can go all day on one of these.

Scooper

If it's a 57cm '86 model year frameset, the tubing is SLX. That year, SLX was used on smaller frames with SL/SP mix (SL top tube and seat tube; SP down tube) on 60cm and larger frames.

I have a 61cm '87 with SL/SP, and it's a great riding bike.

Narhay

You'll want to regrease the headset, bottom bracket and hubs.

Nice bike.

DMC707

Looks like a performance oriented gearing range on that freewheel ---- Nice

That's actually one of the things I play with on most of my bikes to better accommodate ---- its a lot easier for me to stay seated and spin up a climb than to get out of the saddle. I try to find 13-28 freewheels for most things , but everybody's legs and lungs are different , so that one may be perfect for you and the terrain you ride

ramzilla

$1000. BAM! Dat's it. dat's all ... done deal.