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Old 09-19-20, 07:02 PM
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drop bars with forward sweep

wondering if anyone has seen 31 bars that sweep forward from the stem to give the rider more extension and allow them to fit a smaller frame with out putting a 200mm stem on it LOL !!!!
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Old 09-19-20, 07:15 PM
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What on earth is the point of this post?
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Old 09-19-20, 07:24 PM
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200mm is more like a tiller. Cornering must suck.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
What on earth is the point of this post?
To make a bike that doesn't fit, fit?
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If you need a 200 mm stem, the bike does not fit you.

If you need a120mm stem with bars that have an extra 80mm reach, the bike still does not fit you.
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Originally Posted by dedhed
To make a bike that doesn't fit, fit?
What the OP is talking about does not make the bike fit any better.
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Old 09-19-20, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
What the OP is talking about does not make the bike fit any better.
In their mind it does or they wouldn't be asking
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Old 09-19-20, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
In their mind it does or they wouldn't be asking
Unless you can read minds, lets wait till they respond. Otherwise you're pissing in the wind.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
If you need a 200 mm stem, the bike does not fit you.

If you need a120mm stem with bars that have an extra 80mm reach, the bike still does not fit you.
So, nobody's bike fits? 110-120 + 80mm reach is pretty standard. What am I missing?
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Those of us who ride in an aero position (back almost flat horizontal) a lot will want these types of bars. Why?
1. when you're hunched down, the forwar sweep will give you extra room to stretch. Yes, extra room to stretch will lessen the strain on your elbows, and it'll allow you to breathe a bit better, and all this will mean you'll be able to hold that flat aero position longer (without using dedicated tri-bike aero bars)
2. then when you're sitting more upright, eg, you're climbing on the tops, or just chillin on your recovery ride, then you can sit upright without needing to stretch out.

I'm using a 120mm stem with a 50cm frame. And when I'm in my most aero position, I feel like I want a 130 stem, but I know that a 130 stem will probably throw the bike's handling a bit off, and a 130 will be a tad too long when I'm sitting more upright riding the tops. In my case, the forward-sweep bar makes a lot of sense.
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Don’t all road bars sweep forward?

So no one rides on the hoods?

...or in the drops?

genejockey pretty much hit it on the head.

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Originally Posted by Toespeas
bars that sweep forward from the stem to give the rider more extension and allow them to fit a smaller frame with out putting a 200mm stem
When you say "sweep forward from the stem," the only thing I can picture is something like this. Please tell me I'm wrong.


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Originally Posted by cubewheels
However, with long enough reach and elbows straight, this can give some riders shoulder pain. You shouldn't have problems bending your elbows a bit if maintaining a fast pace and continuously pedaling (the reason why you would be hunched down horizontal to be aero). Whenever you're pedaling, you must be able to user your core muscles to hold some of your upper body weight.
so what you're saying is that you need to get a bike fit. The bar has nothing to do with a poor bike fit.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
So, nobody's bike fits? 110-120 + 80mm reach is pretty standard. What am I missing?
I said 80mm EXTRA reach. Like the forward sweep the OP is talking about.

So instead of an 80mm reach bar, like you say, a bar would have a 160mm reach.

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Originally Posted by Kapusta
I said 80mm EXTRA reach. Like the forward sweep the OP is talking about.

So instead of an 80mm reach bar, like you say, a bar would have a 160mm reach.
Ah!
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Originally Posted by GlennR
Unless you can read minds, lets wait till they respond. Otherwise you're pissing in the wind.
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"wondering if anyone has seen 31 bars that sweep forward from the stem to give the rider more extension and allow them to fit a smaller frame with out putting a 200mm stem on it LOL !!!!"
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Originally Posted by Toespeas
wondering if anyone has seen 31 bars that sweep forward from the stem to give the rider more extension and allow them to fit a smaller frame with out putting a 200mm stem on it LOL !!!!
So, are you wanting drop bars with a lot of reach? 115mm about the most I’ve seen, especially in 31.8mm. The Rene Herse Bars both have 115mm reach. Nitto B135 has 105mm. Nitto B132 has 122mm but it is also 25.4mm clamp size only, AFAIK. My lowly road bike has HL/Zoom bars with 115mm reach, but they are also 25.4mm clamp size.

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Funn g wide have a reach of 135mm. I use them on my touring/gravel bike. I can pretty much fit my entire hand on the bar before the hoods. I like being able to move a lot. Also the long reach allows for a short stem. Witch is nice for bar bags and front racks.
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I suspect OP is looking for something like randonneur bars except looking for forward, rather than upward, sweep. 80 mm is about two inches too much, and I don't know of anyone who makes a forward sweep bar like that, anyway.

(And of course that leaves the question of why someone wouldn't build a bike with an inch longer head tube in the first place.)
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Originally Posted by Thruhiker
Funn g wide have a reach of 135mm. I use them on my touring/gravel bike. I can pretty much fit my entire hand on the bar before the hoods. I like being able to move a lot. Also the long reach allows for a short stem. Witch is nice for bar bags and front racks.
By the standard C-C measurement for reach specs, those are 110mm. Per their diagram, the 135mm measurement is outer to outer and increased by twice the radius of the bar (actually the front section radius plus clamp section radius) compared to a normal reach spec. Not that 110mm isn’t a decent amount of reach!

https://www.funnmtb.com/wp-content/u...-Handlebar.pdf

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Originally Posted by ofajen
By the standard C-C measurement for reach specs, those are 110mm. Per their diagram, the 135mm measurement is outer to outer and increased by twice the radius of the bar.
https://www.funnmtb.com/wp-content/u...-Handlebar.pdf

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Thanks for the correction on that Otto.
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