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Help With Tubulars
Restoring a '72 PX-10. Wheels are Mavic Montlery. Appear to be Championnat du Monde but the red labels are long gone. There's a small "0372" next to the "Made in France' stamp on the rim.
Rims appear to be 700 x 20mm (W).
First time with tubulars and want to see what all the fuss is about. Plus, I believe the wheels are period correct for the bike.
Can anyone point me to a link regarding how to select and mount the tires? I know I'll need tape and glue but that's the extent of my knowledge here.
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Rims appear to be 700 x 20mm (W).
First time with tubulars and want to see what all the fuss is about. Plus, I believe the wheels are period correct for the bike.
Can anyone point me to a link regarding how to select and mount the tires? I know I'll need tape and glue but that's the extent of my knowledge here.
Thanks.
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Plenty of videos on YouTube and advice here on the forum.
I have been using tubs for decades.
I don't bother preglueng or stretching the tyres (tho that does help) or waiting 24 hrs
Glue on the rim ,pump the tyre a bit , get it on the rim as square as i can. Pressurise fully and ride it. The tyre straightens itself with rolling weight and tyre pressure.
I brush the glue on evenly over the rim. It doesn't take a lot. I don't clean of the old glue.
You want piece of mind. Try and remove the tyre after you have glued it and pressurised it. Try hard.
I don't go downs hills at a hundred kph.
But I have done it this way for nearly forty years.
It's easy
I have been using tubs for decades.
I don't bother preglueng or stretching the tyres (tho that does help) or waiting 24 hrs
Glue on the rim ,pump the tyre a bit , get it on the rim as square as i can. Pressurise fully and ride it. The tyre straightens itself with rolling weight and tyre pressure.
I brush the glue on evenly over the rim. It doesn't take a lot. I don't clean of the old glue.
You want piece of mind. Try and remove the tyre after you have glued it and pressurised it. Try hard.
I don't go downs hills at a hundred kph.
But I have done it this way for nearly forty years.
It's easy
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I've been thinking of using tubular tires as well and I'm considering using double sided tape.
https://www.effettomariposa.eu/en/products/carogna/
https://www.tufo.com/en/accessories/...tubular-tyres/
https://www.effettomariposa.eu/en/products/carogna/
https://www.tufo.com/en/accessories/...tubular-tyres/
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I've been riding tubs since 1977. Not too much glue. That stuff is sticky. I glued a dorm mates door with it once. They were Not amused.
Blamester has it right on the procedure. They will not roll off if glued right.
You don't have to remove the old glue until it starts to build up like tammy fay baker's makeup.
Tape - I don't know it might not be as strong and adds weight.
I have three sets of Mavic Championnat du Monde Professionnel rims, 1977-78 era, but Mavic was making the plain version (Monthlrey and non Professionnel labeled Championnat diu Monde ) for a few years prior, so they're fine on a 72. The "Professionnel" were labeled for the Raleigh Pro MK v starting in 1977 and had smooth braking surfaces vs serrated surfaces on the others.
Blamester has it right on the procedure. They will not roll off if glued right.
You don't have to remove the old glue until it starts to build up like tammy fay baker's makeup.
Tape - I don't know it might not be as strong and adds weight.
I have three sets of Mavic Championnat du Monde Professionnel rims, 1977-78 era, but Mavic was making the plain version (Monthlrey and non Professionnel labeled Championnat diu Monde ) for a few years prior, so they're fine on a 72. The "Professionnel" were labeled for the Raleigh Pro MK v starting in 1977 and had smooth braking surfaces vs serrated surfaces on the others.
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I use Tufo tubular rim tape. Dead easy to mount a tire and I've never had issues with rim separation. I'm not going back to using glue. It's too messy. It takes too long and I don't notice any discernible benefits.
Here's a link to Tufo's YouTube site. They have some good instructional videos on how to mount a tubular tire to the rim.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfU...iTZOMmw/videos
Here's a link to Tufo's YouTube site. They have some good instructional videos on how to mount a tubular tire to the rim.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfU...iTZOMmw/videos
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If you want to see what the fuss is about, go weight-weenie by using glue, and spend +/- $100 per tire. However, most of the fuss can be had with $25 tires. I do not recommend Continental tires for a first goround as they are too tight/hard to mount even when stretched. Have fun. Your PX-10 deserves tubulars.
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I use Tufo tubular rim tape. Dead easy to mount a tire and I've never had issues with rim separation. I'm not going back to using glue. It's too messy. It takes too long and I don't notice any discernible benefits.
Here's a link to Tufo's YouTube site. They have some good instructional videos on how to mount a tubular tire to the rim.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfU...iTZOMmw/videos
Here's a link to Tufo's YouTube site. They have some good instructional videos on how to mount a tubular tire to the rim.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfU...iTZOMmw/videos
I also like that this company, Tufo, is committed to tubular tires. I am going to have to look for a set of rims, and hubs.
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I use Tufo tubular rim tape. Dead easy to mount a tire and I've never had issues with rim separation. I'm not going back to using glue. It's too messy. It takes too long and I don't notice any discernible benefits.
Here's a link to Tufo's YouTube site. They have some good instructional videos on how to mount a tubular tire to the rim.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfU...iTZOMmw/videos
Here's a link to Tufo's YouTube site. They have some good instructional videos on how to mount a tubular tire to the rim.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfU...iTZOMmw/videos
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Tubular Tire Mounting Cement Gluing Adhesion by Yellow Jersey; Thoughts on a Front Wheel
also look at totally tubular in the stick section
also look at totally tubular in the stick section
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Good on you for staying with tubulars on that PX-10.
Firstly- Here's an appropriately named 'sticky thread' right here on the forum.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...y-tubular.html
As for Tufo tubulars, the upper line are quite different vs. the budget offerings but are very reliable and rarely a blem out of the wrapper.
Budget Tufo's - Don't expect the fine ride or fast roller (comparative speaking) but if you need a training tubular or perhaps race in a multi-sport / tri event and want to finish minimizing puncture, go for it. The logo is awful for a vintage bike, but what the heck...
(BTW: Regarding Tufo, do read carefully sellers descriptions. There are Tufo tubulars FOR CLINCHERS! Do not use that type for tubular rims. Quite often I come across sellers not accurately stating application nor correct model listing.)
That said, one can always find NOS premium vintage tubulars on eBay. Be frugal and you might be surprised that some cost less than brand new production cheapo's. Italian produced or made in Thailand rubber is the better option.
Other budget cheapo for new production in my pick is Panaracer Practice 270. One shouldn't expect to pay more than $27 usd.
If you want to spoil yourself and plush riding PX-10, go spend a months worth of duck ransom for fine new FMB from France.
Firstly- Here's an appropriately named 'sticky thread' right here on the forum.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...y-tubular.html
As for Tufo tubulars, the upper line are quite different vs. the budget offerings but are very reliable and rarely a blem out of the wrapper.
Budget Tufo's - Don't expect the fine ride or fast roller (comparative speaking) but if you need a training tubular or perhaps race in a multi-sport / tri event and want to finish minimizing puncture, go for it. The logo is awful for a vintage bike, but what the heck...
(BTW: Regarding Tufo, do read carefully sellers descriptions. There are Tufo tubulars FOR CLINCHERS! Do not use that type for tubular rims. Quite often I come across sellers not accurately stating application nor correct model listing.)
That said, one can always find NOS premium vintage tubulars on eBay. Be frugal and you might be surprised that some cost less than brand new production cheapo's. Italian produced or made in Thailand rubber is the better option.
Other budget cheapo for new production in my pick is Panaracer Practice 270. One shouldn't expect to pay more than $27 usd.
If you want to spoil yourself and plush riding PX-10, go spend a months worth of duck ransom for fine new FMB from France.
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I did see talk of using tape in the tubular sticky section and dismissed it as, "that's not the way to do it". "it's a newbe hack". This fresh thread had me look at the link provided and changed my mind.
Thanks also for the link to Yellow Jersey. "That's the way to do it" when using glue. It is not complicated either.
I do see some small advantages to tape. 1. I can roll the tire onto the rim, 2. I can adjust the tire once on the rim more easily, 3. My hands won't get sticky (I think, we'll see).
The advantage to glue is it is lower cost and it has about a century of good performance.
Thanks also for the link to Yellow Jersey. "That's the way to do it" when using glue. It is not complicated either.
I do see some small advantages to tape. 1. I can roll the tire onto the rim, 2. I can adjust the tire once on the rim more easily, 3. My hands won't get sticky (I think, we'll see).
The advantage to glue is it is lower cost and it has about a century of good performance.
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They are an acquired taste, I had my first back in 1979 and have loved them since. I use either Continental or Vittoria on my Tommasini and Medici rides.
I prefer the glued method, probably just not wanting to switch from what has served me well for so long, but friends using the tape are happy with it also. I've never rolled a tubular tire, thankfully, but I take my time when I am gluing up a set.
The YouTube video linked above is a good resource, and there are several others, including Continental's own batch. As said, that Pug deserves a set.
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I prefer the glued method, probably just not wanting to switch from what has served me well for so long, but friends using the tape are happy with it also. I've never rolled a tubular tire, thankfully, but I take my time when I am gluing up a set.
The YouTube video linked above is a good resource, and there are several others, including Continental's own batch. As said, that Pug deserves a set.
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Good on you for staying with tubulars on that PX-10.
Firstly- Here's an appropriately named 'sticky thread' right here on the forum.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...y-tubular.html
As for Tufo tubulars, the upper line are quite different vs. the budget offerings but are very reliable and rarely a blem out of the wrapper.
Budget Tufo's - Don't expect the fine ride or fast roller (comparative speaking) but if you need a training tubular or perhaps race in a multi-sport / tri event and want to finish minimizing puncture, go for it. The logo is awful for a vintage bike, but what the heck...
(BTW: Regarding Tufo, do read carefully sellers descriptions. There are Tufo tubulars FOR CLINCHERS! Do not use that type for tubular rims. Quite often I come across sellers not accurately stating application nor correct model listing.)
That said, one can always find NOS premium vintage tubulars on eBay. Be frugal and you might be surprised that some cost less than brand new production cheapo's. Italian produced or made in Thailand rubber is the better option.
Other budget cheapo for new production in my pick is Panaracer Practice 270. One shouldn't expect to pay more than $27 usd.
If you want to spoil yourself and plush riding PX-10, go spend a months worth of duck ransom for fine new FMB from France.
Firstly- Here's an appropriately named 'sticky thread' right here on the forum.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...y-tubular.html
As for Tufo tubulars, the upper line are quite different vs. the budget offerings but are very reliable and rarely a blem out of the wrapper.
Budget Tufo's - Don't expect the fine ride or fast roller (comparative speaking) but if you need a training tubular or perhaps race in a multi-sport / tri event and want to finish minimizing puncture, go for it. The logo is awful for a vintage bike, but what the heck...
(BTW: Regarding Tufo, do read carefully sellers descriptions. There are Tufo tubulars FOR CLINCHERS! Do not use that type for tubular rims. Quite often I come across sellers not accurately stating application nor correct model listing.)
That said, one can always find NOS premium vintage tubulars on eBay. Be frugal and you might be surprised that some cost less than brand new production cheapo's. Italian produced or made in Thailand rubber is the better option.
Other budget cheapo for new production in my pick is Panaracer Practice 270. One shouldn't expect to pay more than $27 usd.
If you want to spoil yourself and plush riding PX-10, go spend a months worth of duck ransom for fine new FMB from France.
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Good on you for staying with tubulars on that PX-10.
Firstly- Here's an appropriately named 'sticky thread' right here on the forum.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...y-tubular.html
As for Tufo tubulars, the upper line are quite different vs. the budget offerings but are very reliable and rarely a blem out of the wrapper.
Budget Tufo's - Don't expect the fine ride or fast roller (comparative speaking) but if you need a training tubular or perhaps race in a multi-sport / tri event and want to finish minimizing puncture, go for it. The logo is awful for a vintage bike, but what the heck...
(BTW: Regarding Tufo, do read carefully sellers descriptions. There are Tufo tubulars FOR CLINCHERS! Do not use that type for tubular rims. Quite often I come across sellers not accurately stating application nor correct model listing.)
That said, one can always find NOS premium vintage tubulars on eBay. Be frugal and you might be surprised that some cost less than brand new production cheapo's. Italian produced or made in Thailand rubber is the better option.
Other budget cheapo for new production in my pick is Panaracer Practice 270. One shouldn't expect to pay more than $27 usd.
If you want to spoil yourself and plush riding PX-10, go spend a months worth of duck ransom for fine new FMB from France.
Firstly- Here's an appropriately named 'sticky thread' right here on the forum.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...y-tubular.html
As for Tufo tubulars, the upper line are quite different vs. the budget offerings but are very reliable and rarely a blem out of the wrapper.
Budget Tufo's - Don't expect the fine ride or fast roller (comparative speaking) but if you need a training tubular or perhaps race in a multi-sport / tri event and want to finish minimizing puncture, go for it. The logo is awful for a vintage bike, but what the heck...
(BTW: Regarding Tufo, do read carefully sellers descriptions. There are Tufo tubulars FOR CLINCHERS! Do not use that type for tubular rims. Quite often I come across sellers not accurately stating application nor correct model listing.)
That said, one can always find NOS premium vintage tubulars on eBay. Be frugal and you might be surprised that some cost less than brand new production cheapo's. Italian produced or made in Thailand rubber is the better option.
Other budget cheapo for new production in my pick is Panaracer Practice 270. One shouldn't expect to pay more than $27 usd.
If you want to spoil yourself and plush riding PX-10, go spend a months worth of duck ransom for fine new FMB from France.
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If you are not in a hurry, I have a bunch of tubulars to choose from back in MI. I’ll be back in late April.
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Here is a pic of the rims on my Trek 760. They are ‘72 Mavic with Normandy hubs. I glued Tufo S33 Pro 20mm tires on it. They flat out stinkin’ ZIP!
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Wait a minute. I got all caught up in how easy it is to install a tubular with tape. What happens when you replace the tire? Do you have to remove the old tape? How hard is that? How do you remove it? Does it just peel off? That's what I would like to see a video on to get me over the "hump".
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Wait a minute. I got all caught up in how easy it is to install a tubular with tape. What happens when you replace the tire? Do you have to remove the old tape? How hard is that? How do you remove it? Does it just peel off? That's what I would like to see a video on to get me over the "hump".
You could always leave a spot free of tape to get a start.
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Correct. Whether using tape or glue, leave a 3” or so unstuck gap opposite the valve stem for easy index and starter for removal, especially on the fly, out and about.
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I see someone here rides with the glue still wet. That's a surprise to me.
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I, fairly recently, did the "I'm gonna try tubulars" thing. I researched and experimented a bit. This is what I found works best for me...
Use tape and to heck with glue (although I do get happy when I use glue). Tape is easy, clean and extremely forgiving during installation.
Stretch your tubular by fitting it onto a rim and leave it there for a couple of days. Then remove the tubulal.
Ensuring that the rim is clean, apply the tape, making careful effort to center it. Once the tape is installed, but without the outer sticky portion revealed (leave the protective cover on the outer surface tape on for now)' Leave the protective tape ends sticking out each side of the tire/rim fit.
Install the tubular and do your best to get it right in the middle of the wheel rim. Remember, the tubular is not stuck into place yet. That makes it easy to center. When satisfied, carefully pull the protective tape out, pump up the tire to full pressure plus a bit and let it sit for a while. I give it a day at least but not sure if doing so is important.
When done, the tire should be well adhered to the rim, running true to center and your hands are clean. As for what to do when you flat out - don't know. Has not happened yet.
In closing, I run tubulars only on period and model correct bike, with one exception. I gave up on the costly tubular in favor of clinchers for my Legnano which is not a wall art bike. It sees a lot of use...
Use tape and to heck with glue (although I do get happy when I use glue). Tape is easy, clean and extremely forgiving during installation.
Stretch your tubular by fitting it onto a rim and leave it there for a couple of days. Then remove the tubulal.
Ensuring that the rim is clean, apply the tape, making careful effort to center it. Once the tape is installed, but without the outer sticky portion revealed (leave the protective cover on the outer surface tape on for now)' Leave the protective tape ends sticking out each side of the tire/rim fit.
Install the tubular and do your best to get it right in the middle of the wheel rim. Remember, the tubular is not stuck into place yet. That makes it easy to center. When satisfied, carefully pull the protective tape out, pump up the tire to full pressure plus a bit and let it sit for a while. I give it a day at least but not sure if doing so is important.
When done, the tire should be well adhered to the rim, running true to center and your hands are clean. As for what to do when you flat out - don't know. Has not happened yet.
In closing, I run tubulars only on period and model correct bike, with one exception. I gave up on the costly tubular in favor of clinchers for my Legnano which is not a wall art bike. It sees a lot of use...
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Does anyone have actual data comparing the adhesion of tape vs glue?
AFAIK the pros still use glue, and it might be assumed from that that glue is a stronger bond. I've never quite grown up and still like to go fast on descents. I trust glue, admittedly perhaps because I grew up with and always used it. It's a little hard for me to see what the advantage of tape is. Less messy I suppose. To me that is a non issue. However, if the adhesion of tape is just as good or better, why not. More expensive is suppose, and more time consuming if you have to remove and replace whenever you flat or get a new tire.
I personally would be scared to leave an unglued/untaped section of a tire. I've never done that nor would I.
AFAIK the pros still use glue, and it might be assumed from that that glue is a stronger bond. I've never quite grown up and still like to go fast on descents. I trust glue, admittedly perhaps because I grew up with and always used it. It's a little hard for me to see what the advantage of tape is. Less messy I suppose. To me that is a non issue. However, if the adhesion of tape is just as good or better, why not. More expensive is suppose, and more time consuming if you have to remove and replace whenever you flat or get a new tire.
I personally would be scared to leave an unglued/untaped section of a tire. I've never done that nor would I.
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It seems to be a constant argument against tubulars. Do further research and its a great day to yet enjoy them.
With a little delicate fingering of your smart phone, the deals are galore, quality tubulars OFTEN less than cheap clinchers.
Tape, glues and related.
This is another area where modern advancements have GREATLY improved vs old days goop tubulars.
For one thing, there are fast set glues, some that easily clean any excess and cured on the outer rim. Various tapes ~ track or road and for exclusive carbon or aluminum rims. High temp use applications for rims that heat up or cook and stored in a car.
Figure out your type of riding and suit the tire and means of tape or glue.
With a little delicate fingering of your smart phone, the deals are galore, quality tubulars OFTEN less than cheap clinchers.
Tape, glues and related.
This is another area where modern advancements have GREATLY improved vs old days goop tubulars.
For one thing, there are fast set glues, some that easily clean any excess and cured on the outer rim. Various tapes ~ track or road and for exclusive carbon or aluminum rims. High temp use applications for rims that heat up or cook and stored in a car.
Figure out your type of riding and suit the tire and means of tape or glue.
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