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Old 02-24-21, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
The goal of any business is to make money; i.e profit. Developing and selling new products are designed by nature to generate more sales and more profit and ultimately market share along the way.

The Suntour vs Shimano saga of the late 80ís and 90ís was an example of new products that were embraced by the consumer and resulted in profitable product lines and the demise of Suntour as a competitor.

This market share allowed for such developments as rapid rise rear derailleurs. These were not well received by consumers and the evidence is a Shimano product design that has been completely ignored by third party manufactures. If there were any redeeming qualities Microshift or others would have incorporated that design.

So yes while it is the goal, embracing that technology is another question. If disc brakes were in the same category as rapid rise derailleurs, people would dismiss disc brakes and continue to use rim brakes, in the same way as top normal rear derailleurs, and the people at Mavic would be dancing in the streets.

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I used to run Rapid Rise XTR on my mountain bikes. I loved it, but not many others did so it went the way of the do do bird. As for disk brakes, I started running disk brakes around 2010 on my mountain bikes and I will NEVER go back. I bought my first road/CX/gravel bike with disk brakes in 2017 and I will NEVER go back. That was my CAADX and it has cable actuated disks and it still better than rim brakes in any condition. I put in over 10,000 miles a year for the past 20+ years, so I've experienced all of the different variations of rim brakes.
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Old 02-24-21, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Snotrub View Post
I used to run Rapid Rise XTR on my mountain bikes. I loved it, but not many others did so it went the way of the do do bird. As for disk brakes, I started running disk brakes around 2010 on my mountain bikes and I will NEVER go back. I bought my first road/CX/gravel bike with disk brakes in 2017 and I will NEVER go back. That was my CAADX and it has cable actuated disks and it still better than rim brakes in any condition. I put in over 10,000 miles a year for the past 20+ years, so I've experienced all of the different variations of rim brakes.
Don’t tell anyone, but I still run Rapid Rise (760 & 960) even with a 40t and a RoadLink. I will say that it is important to be able to ease off make good downshifts and not just force the chain over under high stress. With a top normal people can just use the cable to force it over, for better or worse.

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Edit added: But I’m not running disc brakes. My parents couldn’t afford to send me to a good school when I was a kid.
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Old 02-24-21, 05:08 PM
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I hope you are going to share the popcorn, this thread will be interesting...
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Old 02-24-21, 05:37 PM
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I hope you are going to share the popcorn, this thread will be interesting...
Here, I got extra.

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Old 02-28-21, 08:58 PM
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If I was to try to imagine, the ultimate post that a guy who liked budget titanium would make, this would be it.
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Old 02-28-21, 09:38 PM
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LOL, it's been a while since I checked out the chucklefest that is the Habanero website...
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Old 03-02-21, 10:13 AM
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You all missed the most important point. What is your average speed?
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Old 03-05-21, 12:07 AM
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great information
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Old 03-05-21, 12:08 AM
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When it comes to disc braking systems, there are four parts you need to know:
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Old 03-05-21, 12:09 AM
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The pads, rotors, calipers, and hardware. The system is responsible for... well, braking. However, as with any other component within your vehicle, each aspect of the braking system serves a different purpose.
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The primary purpose of 2-piece rotors is to reduce unsprung and overall vehicle weight. This is accomplished by using two-piece disc construction. ... The secondary purpose is to increase the ventilation and cooling capacity of the brake disc. Better airflow means better cooling and less fade.
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Old 03-05-21, 07:33 AM
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I've only ridden a handful of bikes with disc brakes. Every one braked better and smoother than my rim braked bikes.
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Old 03-06-21, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Laura allen View Post
The primary purpose of 2-piece rotors is to reduce unsprung and overall vehicle weight. This is accomplished by using two-piece disc construction. ... The secondary purpose is to increase the ventilation and cooling capacity of the brake disc. Better airflow means better cooling and less fade.
what prompted you to cut and paste a piece from an auto brake page here?

itís extremely odd.

https://www.brakes-shop.com/rotor-kits.html
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Old 03-06-21, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rebel1916 View Post

LOL, it's been a while since I checked out the chucklefest that is the Habanero website...
Maybe not high end titanium but I own a Habanero and no issues with the welds, everything was done well and the owner is super nice. I make no claims for the website, it is decidedly old school 90s era Angelcities.
Sure would I rather have a Firefly, Moots, Seven, No.22, Ren, IF, Black Sheep, Engin...or other U.S. made Ti sure without a doubt but my Habanero is a solid bike and was a perfect bike for this build. (saddle was adjusted in post just threw it on to finish up the bike and get it back home didn't realize until we were chatting about it at the shop that it wasn't level) Cheap poorly welded titanium is always bad but this hasn't been the case here.
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Old 03-07-21, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HD3andMe View Post
what prompted you to cut and paste a piece from an auto brake page here?

itís extremely odd.

https://www.brakes-shop.com/rotor-kits.html
Bot, I'd assumed.
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Old 03-07-21, 06:55 AM
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Bot, I'd assumed.
Yep. 98% sure that Laura allen is a bot.
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