tkamd73 

Your so called condoms in tires, or inner tubes, aren’t going anywhere in your lifetime or mine, nor our kids. Reliability, simplicity, and economy will always win out. From everything I’ve read, I’d go back to tubulars, before switching to tubeless. If I’m going to have a flat, I want to actually run over something to cause it.
Tim

Buzzkill53120

So as a fellow Cheese Head, what's your requirement for "Wisconsin drinking"? Brandy Old-Fashions?

cyccommute 

I saw the "Western Siberia" in the signature line but not the Wisconsin bit. My mistake.

I understand the point Aladin is trying to make but, given the poor communication skills, I suspect Aladin doesn't have many chemistry skills as well. Sealant does have a problem. It shouldn't "dry" out of a sealed container. The problem is that the container isn't sealed to the sealant. It's a bit like trying to carry around water in a paper towel bottle. The water gets absorbed into the paper and isn't inside the bottle anymore. The sealant needs a different solvent that won't dissolve into the rubber of the tire. The sealant is a kludge job at best and needs some work.

The whole system is a multifaceted problem that is not easy to solve. Tire rubber formulations have been changed from the early days...at least you don't have tires blistering anymore...and the sealant formulations have changed some too. But there may not be a solution that is easy and inexpensive. A "dry sealant" would need something to activate it and the only thing available would be air but air has to be used in the tires so the sealant would be activated. Wet sealant is already somewhat activated because it dries out and forms "coral" inside the tire.

Bottom line, a sealant and tire might be able to be made that would do better but it would probably cost much more or the manufacturers would make less money. Frankly, Aladin could do the work and reap the reward but that might require some work on his part.

cyccommute 

The dropping of a shot into a beer has been around for ages. The first time I saw it was in an old World War 2 movie. I've seen it in others as well. It likely has it's origins from steam engine (both stationary and mobile) builders in the 1800s.

dedhed

Early and often. preferably local products.

Aladin

The guys peddling the seal-nots of today are just rebranding bulk products... Elmer's glue, et al. Likely the cost for them is bottling and packaging.. the actual seal-NOT is cheeeep. My recent 'speriments w Berryman's... LMFAO.. stuff is a complete joke otta the bottle. Too thick to flow at any at psi... sent code off bottle to the contact.. heard nothing. And even w me of all people in 'what am I doing wrong' mode.. go figure. Stuff appears JUNK.
Latest trial thinned down half-half w water....

I have dry recipes in mind.. I believe likely products applied elsewhere might work... or build off of. Accepting status quo... why? Probably main reason .. least one of them.. no good seal-nots is it voids the tube.. which means revenue AWOL.

90%+ of the elements posting see this world from a tiny window. Entertainment.. bored refugees from the primate cages of any metro zoo. Wind thru the mt cranium's.. look to Wash DC.. sez it all. Originality.. none. They got nothing... just killing time till the shoveled dirt covers them up.

WhyFi

Uh, okay. Out of that muddled mess, I got "sealant is just Elmer's glue" and "Berryman's." The former is absolute nonsense and having never heard of the latter, I decided to look it up. One of the bullet points on the bottle is "Great for tractor tire ballasting." Yep, sounds like some primo **** for road cycling.

shelbyfv

Incoherence is not to be mistaken for originality Seems as if lots of folks are happy with Orange Seal and Stans. They may have followed the instructions, used compatible products. User error can screw up any process.

Koyote

Grammar: not just a bunch of rules, but also a good concept.

cyccommute 

Stans and other sealants are just Elmer’s glue, huh? That’s a new one.

Go ahead and experiment all you like. Since you seem to know so much more than the rest of us “bored refugees from the primate cages”, I’m sure you’ll come up with a revolutionary new product in no time.

DrIsotope

Wait, I've been spending money on tubeless sealants all these years when I could just have filled my tires with Elmers? I can get that stuff by the gallon, on the cheap! How about wood glue? All glue is the same, right?

BlazingPedals

I agree that tubeless technology isn't quite there yet for road bikes. It's usable but not exactly transparent because it's at least as much hassle as the tube it's supposed to get rid of. I can choose not to use road tubeless; but I'm not going to complain about it unless I can come up with something better. Which I can't. Throwing out "somebody oughta..." statements doesn't help advance the cause.

Elvo

Been using road tubeless for about a year so far, was a pain in the ass to get the tires on but once it seated and sealed it has worked perfectly. I've gotten two punctures so far which have sealed in a minute or so, had to pump a little bit of air back into the tyres.

The other main benefit was going from 75 psi down to 40 psi which smoothed out a lot of the terrible roads and losing half a pound of tubes.

WhyFi

That might be the case for you (have you actually given it a go?) and for others that puncture very infrequently, but absolutely not the case for many of us.