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Old 05-27-20, 12:48 PM
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If you could only have 1 gravel tire

From Georgia clay, to KS Flint, to CO, to OR to NM, to AZ, and CA dust

Which Gravel tire would you pick?

Right now for Multi Use including pavement, I am thinking tubeless 700x40 MSO
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If you could only have 1 gravel tire

You'd be riding a unicycle!

Sorry, I'll show myself to the door...
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Continental Terra Speed or Terra Trail
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The MSO is a nice tire. I also like the Terrene Elwoods.
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I replaced my 40mm MSOs with Compass (Rene Herse) 38mm Steilacooms.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...38-steilacoom/

Major upgrade.

I use only those and Barlow Pass (the 38mm slick).
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WTB Venture. But I ride in SoCal, so I have no idea how it does it less dry/harsh conditions. Might collect mud. But it's great everywhere here, from pavement to rocky singletrack, to loose sandy crap. And I noticed no penalty on the road when I switched to them from the Byways FWIW.
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WTB Resolute is my do-it-all. Rolls decently fast, hooks up well.
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Terra Speed. No doubt.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
I replaced my 40mm MSOs with Compass (Rene Herse) 38mm Steilacooms.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...38-steilacoom/

Major upgrade.

I use only those and Barlow Pass (the 38mm slick).
see there you go ruining my 1 tire argument. (not a bad thing by the way)

However that does bring up another question are you running the Barlow pass tubeless?
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Originally Posted by Metieval
see there you go ruining my 1 tire argument. (not a bad thing by the way)

However that does bring up another question are you running the Barlow pass tubeless?
I haven't run either of them tubeless, for two reasons:

(1) I am lazy, and the only tires of mine that go flat are the tubeless ones on a mountain bike, and I hate having to pour fluids into tires every couple of months.

(2) Compass tires aren't great as tubeless. The sidewalls weep (or so I hear). I also haven't had any problems with flats. They now offer their own sealant that supposedly works better than Stans or Orange Seal with those tires. (If I ever did go tubeless, I probably would start with the Steilacooms).

There is a huge overlap with the capabilities of the tires, and I could probably have gotten away with just the Barlow Pass for much of my off-road (and all of my on-road) riding. Similarly, you don't pay a huge penalty for the treads on the Steilacooms when you are on-road.

The Steilacooms were my "one tire for gravel" answer, BTW.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
I haven't run either of them tubeless, for two reasons:

(1) I am lazy, and the only tires of mine that go flat are the tubeless ones on a mountain bike, and I hate having to pour fluids into tires every couple of months.

(2) Compass tires aren't great as tubeless. The sidewalls weep (or so I hear). I also haven't had any problems with flats. They now offer their own sealant that supposedly works better than Stans or Orange Seal with those tires. (If I ever did go tubeless, I probably would start with the Steilacooms).

There is a huge overlap with the capabilities of the tires, and I could probably have gotten away with just the Barlow Pass for much of my off-road (and all of my on-road) riding. Similarly, you don't pay a huge penalty for the treads on the Steilacooms when you are on-road.

The Steilacooms were my "one tire for gravel" answer, BTW.
So basically I don't think there will be a 1 tire answer for me. I am fine with that. Going to do some traveling, and I plan to hit multiple Locations in the US
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Originally Posted by Metieval
So basically I don't think there will be a 1 tire answer for me. I am fine with that. Going to do some traveling, and I plan to hit multiple Locations in the US
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Originally Posted by shoota
Terra Speed
If they ride like the Race Kings MTB tires.... I might not like them. fast but the Race kings on Ohio Hard packed dirt single track just felt squirmy to me.

I took my 60 tpi MSO off my Trek crossrip because It saw more pavement than gravel. the 30 mm 28 gp4000 was fast, but after a cut sidewall commuting in the dark, I replaced with a panaracer pasela. Now we have the GP5000 tubeless 32, but I think I would opt for the barlow pass or snoqulmie, more volume vs the 32 gp5000.

However for the Goathead territory I want tubeless, and also want a tire for pavement/gravel. thus I'd probably opt for the panaracer GK slick + tubless over the Rene Herse.

So in a round about way Leaves the question how are the Terra speed on Pavement?

I am also thinking one tire for all.... is a fools errand.
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Originally Posted by Metieval
If they ride like the Race Kings MTB tires.... I might not like them. fast but the Race kings on Ohio Hard packed dirt single track just felt squirmy to me.

I took my 60 tpi MSO off my Trek crossrip because It saw more pavement than gravel. the 30 mm 28 gp4000 was fast, but after a cut sidewall commuting in the dark, I replaced with a panaracer pasela. Now we have the GP5000 tubeless 32, but I think I would opt for the barlow pass or snoqulmie, more volume vs the 32 gp5000.

However for the Goathead territory I want tubeless, and also want a tire for pavement/gravel. thus I'd probably opt for the panaracer GK slick + tubless over the Rene Herse.

So in a round about way Leaves the question how are the Terra speed on Pavement?

I am also thinking one tire for all.... is a fools errand.
I've never ridden the Race King MTB tires but we have hard packed dirt roads here too and squirmy is never a word that entered my mind. "Fast" "Grippy" "Light" - those words entered my mind.
I also ride them on a fair amount of pavement and was shocked at how fast they were. Only slightly less fast than a proper road tire but obviously much wider and smoother.
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Vittoria Terreno Dry. Really fast on both road & gravel. hooks up in everything but slimy mud. Durable too. If not then Rene Herse. 650b of course.
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Originally Posted by Metieval
So in a round about way Leaves the question how are the Terra speed on Pavement?
I am also thinking one tire for all.... is a fools errand.
I've been riding them on pavement all year (well, its been a short season so far). Really, they are a lot like the G-One Alround. Maybe a little faster, a little smoother, a little smaller, a little better looking. Definitely tougher than the Ramblers they replaced.

Ramblers really are a near perfect light tire with a little tread. Doesn't sound like you need the lightest tire around.
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Originally Posted by chas58
I've been riding them on pavement all year (well, its been a short season so far). Really, they are a lot like the G-One Alround. Maybe a little faster, a little smoother, a little smaller, a little better looking. Definitely tougher than the Ramblers they replaced.

Ramblers really are a near perfect light tire with a little tread. Doesn't sound like you need the lightest tire around.

maybe I should just 650b it with a GK SS ... all based covered. Plenty of bike shops across the USA to buy something different
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In my admittedly limited experience, the Hutchinson Overide has been exceptional on everything except sand. But then again, I've never really ridden on a tire wide enough to manage sand.

I've ridden those tires in all manner of conditions, and they never complain. Very good road mileage, as well.
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Maxxis Rambler tubeless 40mm has been a great tire. Rolls reasonably well on pavement, great on gravel, great on trails with loose dirt, and very durable.
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I'm liking the G-One Allround in 40c for road and light gravel if I could only pick one tire. I was running the Terra Speeds, but seem to prefer the Allrounds - not sure why, though. The Allrounds are slightly larger volume by 1 or 2 mm. Both are very similar and can't go wrong with either.

I also have Barlow Pass's on another set of wheels in Extralight casing. I run them tubeless and have about 1500 miles on them, about half on dirt/gravel and the other half on pavement. They did weep slightly on initial setup with Orange Seal Endurance but set up fine after another day of riding and another ounce or so of sealant. They ride differently than anything else and sort of like a nice quality tubular.
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I'm liking the G-One Allround in 40c for road and light gravel if I could only pick one tire. I was running the Terra Speeds, but seem to prefer the Allrounds - not sure why, though. The Allrounds are slightly larger volume by 1 or 2 mm. Both are very similar and can't go wrong with either.

I also have Barlow Pass's on another set of wheels in Extralight casing. I run them tubeless and have about 1500 miles on them, about half on dirt/gravel and the other half on pavement. They did weep slightly on initial setup with Orange Seal Endurance but set up fine after another day of riding and another ounce or so of sealant. They ride differently than anything else and sort of like a nice quality tubular.
Absolutely! The Rene Herse (Compass) tires are really something else. As close to a tubular I will get to in the future. I have ridden tubulars in the past and loved the ride but hated tha hassle. RH is one of the best, but maybe not if you have a lot of sharp stuff like Dirty Kansa, or a lot of wet mud.
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Currently running the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650x47 and they have really surprised me with how well they roll and their off-road grip especially in wet grass/light mud. I assume that the 700c versions would perform just as well.
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Terra Speed is also my favorite 700c tire. Fast of an on road, supple, and grip for days.
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G-One All Around only goes up to 38mm, doesn't it?
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I've got Vittoria Terreno Dry 40mm I've only done one 55km ride on them and think there a great tire but they did feel sluggish on road. Saying that though I'm use to 25 to 20mm road race tires haha and was running 35- 40psi. Impressive grip though off road and railing high speed turns on the black top. My only other experience with gravel style tires are Sammy Slicks in 35mm. They were fast fast on road but that was in a time when high pressures were the norm too.
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