Will you ever go disc?
#77
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One needs to race to have the best braking available?
I don't have an unlimited budget either. Hydraulic discs don't cost a fortune. I wouldn't run out and buy a new bike, just to get disc brakes, but I won't buy another road bike without them(unless it's a TT bike).
I'd rather go back to mechanical shifting, than to rim brakes.
I don't have an unlimited budget either. Hydraulic discs don't cost a fortune. I wouldn't run out and buy a new bike, just to get disc brakes, but I won't buy another road bike without them(unless it's a TT bike).
I'd rather go back to mechanical shifting, than to rim brakes.
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Not necessarily. For crits, I'll actually loosen the front caliper so that I'll have *less* braking.
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From my experience hydros are great when everything is working and not so great when stuff isn't
I've had shimanos and formulas. And they all developed some weird problem within a year. The formulas needed bleeding every year and the shimanos had multiple problems. I basically got tired of it and went cable instead. Its very easy to fix and troubleshoot cable discs. I run bb7 on all bikes.
I've had shimanos and formulas. And they all developed some weird problem within a year. The formulas needed bleeding every year and the shimanos had multiple problems. I basically got tired of it and went cable instead. Its very easy to fix and troubleshoot cable discs. I run bb7 on all bikes.
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I don't wish to belittle anyone's position on this topic, but I'm old enough to recall similar debates on manual vs automatic transmissions on cars.
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If I were still racing, there would be disc brakes on my bikes as that is what the sponsor provides. Outside of racing? No. Does not solve a problem for me as I don't have stopping issues with rim brakes. My last mountain bike had disc brakes and they were very effective, however they didn't make me any faster than the rim brake model it replaced, and I didn't hit fewer trees with them either. Simply put, disc brakes do not fix something that ain't broke.
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The best rim brakes in my stable are probably the Deore T610 V-brakes on my gravel bike. I've got them set up above 52mm tires and full-length fenders with healthy clearance to spare. They're as light as 105 caliper brakes, despite being cheaper. They're extremely powerful in all conditions. And when it's not mucky out, they modulate around as well as the hydro discs on my MTB (right now they're actually significantly better, but that's unfair because my hydros are in need of a bleed, whereas I just serviced the V-brakes).
Actually, before the narrow tire fad strangled the market in the 1980s, it was typical for road calipers to be able to handle 35mm tires or bigger. Dual-pivot centerpulls and especially cantilevers could go considerably wider. As far as road bikes are concerned, "rim brakes can't handle wide tires" is more a fashion issue than an engineering problem. The main technical advantages of disc brakes on road bikes are wet-weather modulation and avoidance of rim wear.
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My car has a manual transmission too. I have 4 teenagers and none of them have ever been able to learn how to drive it. I took one of my daughters out for a drive, and she gave up after half-an-hour or so.
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In 5 decades of using (proper) QR skewers, I've never had any incident or even a close call.
Another advantage of using QR skewers without lawyer tabs is added security. So you park your bike unlocked while while you dash into a washroom or to grab a coffee. Opening up both skewers will make a successful snatch and ride theft harder.
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I don't know maybe if I found the right Schwinn...
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We've officially accounted for every stick shift in America in this thread now.
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Before going disc, I'd probably want to first ensure my LBS has a bleed kit in their workshop. I've heard it's a thing -- shops selling disc bikes but can't work on them.
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Discs? I don't need no stinking discs.
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Thru-axles? Yes, I had a demo at a local shop. Confirmed: they are a PITA. (Because it is different than I'm used to.) I'm at a minimum removing and stashing my front wheel once per day. (And I hate it when my disc goes back in the same place relative to the calpier every time consistantly)Could not be bothered with anything that involves spinning.
In 5 decades of using (proper) QR skewers, I've never had any incident or even a close call. (Because everyone knows my quick releases are infallible and always work 100% of the time, with out fail and operator error is not possible.)
Another disadvantage of using QR skewers without lawyer tabs is added insecurity. So you park your bike unlocked while while you dash into a washroom or to grab a coffee. Opening up both skewers will make a successful snatch and ride theft harder...But that'll never happen to me. I am immune to infallibility.
In 5 decades of using (proper) QR skewers, I've never had any incident or even a close call. (Because everyone knows my quick releases are infallible and always work 100% of the time, with out fail and operator error is not possible.)
Another disadvantage of using QR skewers without lawyer tabs is added insecurity. So you park your bike unlocked while while you dash into a washroom or to grab a coffee. Opening up both skewers will make a successful snatch and ride theft harder...But that'll never happen to me. I am immune to infallibility.
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FWIW, what did me in on my disc bike was the senior mechanic at a well known bike shop. I'll not mention them here, but their website rhymes with schmikesaledotcom. About 5 miles into riding home from that shop, I asked myself "What is that rattle-rattle?" And looked down to see it was the front wheel. I then used the rear brake to stop & fasten the QR appropriatly. The lawyer tabs did exactly what the were supposed to.
My 17 year-old kid has all the mechanical ability of a tree-stump. On his rim brake bike I noticed the wires for his dynamo were wrapped around the axle. The lawyer tabs worked & held everything in place. He had no idea how long it'd been that way.
And finally 35 years ago, my front teeth became brakes when I had the joy of having the front of the bike decide it didn't want to play bicycle any more.
But yeah, you do you, man. Safety is for losers.
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My most recent bike purchase was a disc brake bike. I doubt I'll ever buy a bike with rim bakes again. The brakes are just better. Plus, I like thru-axles better than QR. Everything is aligned perfectly every time and I'm not racing, so I don't care about a few extra seconds it takes to put them on.