Sunglasses--$200+?
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I can't read my computer when I ride. I use something like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Bifocal-Safet...lasses+for+men
https://www.amazon.com/Bifocal-Safet...lasses+for+men
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Searched this thread for "Foakley" and got nothing. Searched for "fake" and got one.
I have bought both real and fake Oakleys and POCs. Real are slightly better, but only slightly. I will never pay full price for either. See, e.g.: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6V4WrPJF5J2ZoG
I have bought both real and fake Oakleys and POCs. Real are slightly better, but only slightly. I will never pay full price for either. See, e.g.: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6V4WrPJF5J2ZoG
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I can't read my computer when I ride. I use something like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Bifocal-Safet...lasses+for+men
https://www.amazon.com/Bifocal-Safet...lasses+for+men
Oakley was able to do this for me at my optician's request. No other lab would touch it.
-Tim-
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Oakley are expensive but they are also the best cycling eyewear I've ever tried. Optically perfect, great lens options and protection beyond anyone else.
I think any good cycling eyewear is pretty good- Rudy, Tifosi, Smith, etc all make good stuff.
but the lack of distortion and clarity in Oakley lenses is noticable.
Oakley are not charging more for the same product. They are charging more for a quantifiably superior product.
Are they overpriced? Yeah maybe but they are also style leaders too. So, according to the market, maybe they are not overpriced.
They also do a lot in-house and I am happy to be a Oakley customer.
I think any good cycling eyewear is pretty good- Rudy, Tifosi, Smith, etc all make good stuff.
but the lack of distortion and clarity in Oakley lenses is noticable.
Oakley are not charging more for the same product. They are charging more for a quantifiably superior product.
Are they overpriced? Yeah maybe but they are also style leaders too. So, according to the market, maybe they are not overpriced.
They also do a lot in-house and I am happy to be a Oakley customer.
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Heh. Reminds me of the thread in Touring. Ortlieb panniers are great products. The you "you cannot go wrong" product to many, especially when it comes to being waterproof. Of course, you pay a premium for the quality. Some Ortlieb hater (and hater of Ortlieb fans) was talking about how his cheap panniers were just as good and mentioned that they keep his gear "reasonably dry." I remarked that I had no idea what "reasonably dry" meant and noted that I like my gear to stay completely dry. Another poster suggested "reasonably dry" was the equivalent of "frugally damp."
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I own and wear sunglasses made by Tifosi, Ray Ban, Maui Jims, and Oakley. They are an essential part of my outdoor gear.
I also own a half dozen $6 eBay specials, so once they get scratched you just throw them into the recycling.
Each to their own, but after wearing high quality cycling or driving or hiking sunglasses there's no going back. I don't wear them for cleaning the gutters, that's what eBay is for....
I also own a half dozen $6 eBay specials, so once they get scratched you just throw them into the recycling.
Each to their own, but after wearing high quality cycling or driving or hiking sunglasses there's no going back. I don't wear them for cleaning the gutters, that's what eBay is for....
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I wear Rudy glasses. They have Transitions lenses and a bifocal prescription that extends all the way through the blind spot on the sides and an $850 price tag. Insane, yes. But they are my only pair, and sometimes I even forget I'm wearing them.
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Most of the time I wear prescription glasses with $10 clip-ons I bought from Costco and amazon.
I used to use contacts with sunglasses but it wasn't worth the extra effort. When I did, the $50 sunglasses worked well enough that I had no desire to seek out costlier sunglasses. These are all plastic lenses after all with identical UV protection.
I used to use contacts with sunglasses but it wasn't worth the extra effort. When I did, the $50 sunglasses worked well enough that I had no desire to seek out costlier sunglasses. These are all plastic lenses after all with identical UV protection.
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Everyone has their pricepoint and expectations. That is why there is a segment for everything, including bikes, components and sunglasses.
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That's a great deal, you can get Oakley Radars for 50% off! No excuse there!
For that price you can buy another lens for different conditions and still be ahead
For that price you can buy another lens for different conditions and still be ahead
I won't pay 200 bucks for a pair of glasses when I know I am going to break them or lose them. I can appreciate quality though. I bought 3 pair of Costa glass lens glasses from Steep an Cheap for $59 a pair. They have a lot of different brands at deeply discounted prices.
https://www.steepandcheap.com/sunglasses?nf=1
https://www.steepandcheap.com/sunglasses?nf=1
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Wow, there's a lot of frugal riders on this thread. Not that it's bad but if I'm riding a $6k bike, whether mountain or road, I'm gonna want a lens that doesn't shatter on impact, doesn't glare in the sun, that's vented to keep it from steaming up and somewhat good looking. Maybe it's foolish to spend more but riding around in $25 glasses on the only set of working eyes I'll ever have, seems like maybe it's worth it. After having been to the Oakley headquarters and seeing their research and testing process, I can say with some confidence that hey, these glasses are one less thing to worry about. Then there are other factors such as style, fit, look, color options with both frame and lenses. To each their own and budget is a big factor. It's not a cheap sport for sure but there's an inherent risk every time we mount up. Be safe all!
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Wow, there's a lot of frugal riders on this thread. Not that it's bad but if I'm riding a $6k bike, whether mountain or road, I'm gonna want a lens that doesn't shatter on impact, doesn't glare in the sun, that's vented to keep it from steaming up and somewhat good looking. Maybe it's foolish to spend more but riding around in $25 glasses on the only set of working eyes I'll ever have, seems like maybe it's worth it. After having been to the Oakley headquarters and seeing their research and testing process, I can say with some confidence that hey, these glasses are one less thing to worry about. Then there are other factors such as style, fit, look, color options with both frame and lenses. To each their own and budget is a big factor. It's not a cheap sport for sure but there's an inherent risk every time we mount up. Be safe all!
What model of oakleys do you use? Unless it is an m-frame designated as meeting the ansi z87.1 standard, they do not meet the industrial standard. Instead they meet the ansi 80.3 general purpose usage standard. So there are two safety standards for glasses. The higher or industrial standard is ANSI Z87.1 Both the frame and lenses must meet this standard independently and both will and must be marked as such if they meet this standard.
Don't be fooled, industry standard polycarbonate is both very cheap and very strong. At least 10x as strong as glass for shatter/impact resistance.
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/support/faqARE MY OAKLEY GLASSES ANSI Z87.1 CONFORMING AND OSHA APPROVED?
Eyewear that fully conforms to the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Z87.1 requirement where both the lens and frame are marked with "Z87" is approved by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for use in environments where eye protection is required. Only Oakley eyewear identified as an industrial model and marked with "Z87" is intended for use in industrial applications.
Currently Oalkey only offers two pairs, the m frames, that meet the industrial standard for both lenses and the frame. If you do not own an m-frame with the ansi z87.1 designation, your oakleys do not meet this particular industrial standard.
The second standard is general purpose and sports usage, ansi z80.3 I. The brand of sports sunglasses I use meet the ansi z80.3 standard. The lenses offer excellent clarity with some ventilation and the frames are well made and comfortable. I paid a small fraction of what Oakley charges.
Oakleys aren't a ripoff in the sense that they get the job done, but plastic is plastic.
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What model of oakleys do you use? Unless it is an m-frame designated as meeting the ansi z87.1 standard, they do not meet the industrial standard. Instead they meet the ansi 80.3 general purpose usage standard. So there are two safety standards for glasses. The higher or industrial standard is ANSI Z87.1 Both the frame and lenses must meet this standard independently and both will and must be marked as such if they meet this standard.
Don't be fooled, industry standard polycarbonate is both very cheap and very strong. At least 10x as strong as glass for shatter/impact resistance.
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/support/faqARE MY OAKLEY GLASSES ANSI Z87.1 CONFORMING AND OSHA APPROVED?
Eyewear that fully conforms to the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Z87.1 requirement where both the lens and frame are marked with "Z87" is approved by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for use in environments where eye protection is required. Only Oakley eyewear identified as an industrial model and marked with "Z87" is intended for use in industrial applications.
Currently Oalkey only offers two pairs, the m frames, that meet the industrial standard for both lenses and the frame. If you do not own an m-frame with the ansi z87.1 designation, your oakleys do not meet this particular industrial standard.
The second standard is general purpose and sports usage, ansi z80.3 I. The brand of sports sunglasses I use meet the ansi z80.3 standard. The lenses offer excellent clarity with some ventilation and the frames are well made and comfortable. I paid a small fraction of what Oakley charges.
Oakleys aren't a ripoff in the sense that they get the job done, but plastic is plastic.
Don't be fooled, industry standard polycarbonate is both very cheap and very strong. At least 10x as strong as glass for shatter/impact resistance.
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/support/faqARE MY OAKLEY GLASSES ANSI Z87.1 CONFORMING AND OSHA APPROVED?
Eyewear that fully conforms to the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Z87.1 requirement where both the lens and frame are marked with "Z87" is approved by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) for use in environments where eye protection is required. Only Oakley eyewear identified as an industrial model and marked with "Z87" is intended for use in industrial applications.
Currently Oalkey only offers two pairs, the m frames, that meet the industrial standard for both lenses and the frame. If you do not own an m-frame with the ansi z87.1 designation, your oakleys do not meet this particular industrial standard.
The second standard is general purpose and sports usage, ansi z80.3 I. The brand of sports sunglasses I use meet the ansi z80.3 standard. The lenses offer excellent clarity with some ventilation and the frames are well made and comfortable. I paid a small fraction of what Oakley charges.
Oakleys aren't a ripoff in the sense that they get the job done, but plastic is plastic.
Very good to know! Thanks for sharing. None of my Oakleys are M-frames but the workmanship, options on my existing frames and the quality of the lens speak for themselves. Not sure if you ever tried their Prizm lenses. You just can't find that type of safety glasses on the cheap. I use them for both mtb & road biking especially under low lighting conditions and being able to see what's in front of you really counts.
As for plastic being plastic, I'm not sure I agree with that comment. During a holiday raffle, I won a knockoff Chinese Oakley Jawbreakers and the plastic on those frames are hard (almost brittle-like) and the edges are somewhat jagged. Yes, they may be plastic but it's definitely not the same quality. As for looks, they can almost pass as the real deal. The lens are actually decent looking except there's already some discoloration on one of the lenses. Perhaps this is anecdotal but it just seems that Oakley frames and lenses offer more flex and give than say a cheaper pair. Not a snob. I just prefer quality over quantity. Heck, I still use my '93 SD yellow shooting glasses for night-riding, and guess what, those are rated Z87.1. I think I got those for around $30-35 back then and they look like new!
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You elitist scum victim of Madison Avenue and Rapha! Cycling should not be about style for anyone. You are doing it all wrong and getting suckered out of your money! Good luck when that $6K plastic bike asplodes! Your elitist Oakley glasses won't save you when that happens.
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The lens + frame materials/construction technique is the same for all oakley lenses, and all sport model frames, but Oakley doesn't have them all certified because the cost outweighs the benefit of the ANSI z87.1 designation.
FTR, Oakley offers 4 models with the ANSI z87.1 designation.
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guess I'm in the minority here. Gladly pay for my Costa's (have 3 pair), Maui Jim (2), and Oakley (1). Different styles and lenses for different activities
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Not entirely true. Not having the z87.1 designation doesn't mean that they failed to meet the standard.
The lens + frame materials/construction technique is the same for all oakley lenses, and all sport model frames, but Oakley doesn't have them all certified because the cost outweighs the benefit of the ANSI z87.1 designation.
FTR, Oakley offers 4 models with the ANSI z87.1 designation.
The lens + frame materials/construction technique is the same for all oakley lenses, and all sport model frames, but Oakley doesn't have them all certified because the cost outweighs the benefit of the ANSI z87.1 designation.
FTR, Oakley offers 4 models with the ANSI z87.1 designation.
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/support/faq
ARE MY OAKLEY GLASSES ANSI Z87.1 CONFORMING AND OSHA APPROVED?
Currently Oalkey only offers two pairs, the m frames, that meet the industrial standard for both lenses and the frame. If you do not own an m-frame with the ansi z87.1 designation, your oakleys do not meet this particular industrial standard.
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https://www.oakley.com/en-us/product...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
You should also understand that meeting the standard, and being certified by ANSI, are not the same thing.
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Oakley Det Cord and Tombstone are also ANSI z87.1
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/product/W0OO9253SI?cid=IP-SGA_180327-GDSANew_DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh5Sl3tmf3gIVCMNkCh3yMgtEEAAYASAAEgJXBPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
You should also understand that meeting the standard, and being certified by ANSI, are not the same thing.
https://www.oakley.com/en-us/product/W0OO9253SI?cid=IP-SGA_180327-GDSANew_DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh5Sl3tmf3gIVCMNkCh3yMgtEEAAYASAAEgJXBPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
You should also understand that meeting the standard, and being certified by ANSI, are not the same thing.
Also, the m frames are getting horrible reviews. 3.6/5.
★★★★★ ★★★★★ 3 out of 5 stars.Tony K
· 7 days ago Too Bulky
I look like I escaped from a old folks home Like people look after leaving a optometrist when they have had their eyes dialated
★★★★★ ★★★★★ 1 out of 5 stars.Ll07
· 4 months ago Lens peels
I bought this for my son as a gift and within 3 months the lens began to peel
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You elitist scum victim of Madison Avenue and Rapha! Cycling should not be about style for anyone. You are doing it all wrong and getting suckered out of your money! Good luck when that $6K plastic bike asplodes! Your elitist Oakley glasses won't save you when that happens.
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I'm not saying that all their lenses are ANSI certified, but that there is no difference between the ones that aren't certified, and the ones they have certified. I know this as a fact, from the years that I worked for Oakley, and the information I gathered at the factory.
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All Oakley lenses are made using the same materials, and the same construction methods.
I'm not saying that all their lenses are ANSI certified, but that there is no difference between the ones that aren't certified, and the ones they have certified. I know this as a fact, from the years that I worked for Oakley, and the information I gathered at the factory.
I'm not saying that all their lenses are ANSI certified, but that there is no difference between the ones that aren't certified, and the ones they have certified. I know this as a fact, from the years that I worked for Oakley, and the information I gathered at the factory.