2016 Giant ToughRoad SLR2
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I just bought a Toughroad SLR 1. Now tubes for on the road and the problem of converting to Schrader valve came up again. Did anyone drill a larger hole in the rim? I noticed the rim is relatively narrow and it looks like the 50 mm tires are almost as thick as it is possible for those rims.
my concern with a Schrader valve would be the structural properties of the rim.
i guess I'm almost answering the question on why road bikes etc. often have PResta valves. But wonder if someone uses Schrader on the Toughroad or if you have an opinion of possible problems.
Edit: I found the tubes are relatively rare. I found these for $12 (Schraderversion only $10). Not that I expect lot of tube use. From what I saw CRC and other stores don't even carry that large 700c tubes.
Edit again: anyone used these "self-sealing" tubes?
my concern with a Schrader valve would be the structural properties of the rim.
i guess I'm almost answering the question on why road bikes etc. often have PResta valves. But wonder if someone uses Schrader on the Toughroad or if you have an opinion of possible problems.
Edit: I found the tubes are relatively rare. I found these for $12 (Schraderversion only $10). Not that I expect lot of tube use. From what I saw CRC and other stores don't even carry that large 700c tubes.
Edit again: anyone used these "self-sealing" tubes?
As for the availability, look for 29er tubes rather than 700c. There should be plenty in your size.
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I picked up my bike and rode 1.5 miles. Really great and liberating compared to my old 26" heavy MTB. I really like the 2x Drivetrain. Basically all flat riding on large chainring and all off-road or uphill on small one. i also could fit all my frame bags (for spare tube, pump, food, water etc.)
The rims are so narrow that the ring of the presta valve barely covers the flat part of the rim. So I guess I don't risk enlarging that hole. I also got a Presta-Schrader adapter. First my learning curve in that I could not do anything until
told me I have to loosen that cap. Rookie mistake I guess. But I still struggled with measuring pressure with my Schrader gage and filling air with my compressor. Zap, all the air was out. For attaching my compressor I have to twist the adapter all the way in and unless I hold the inflator in the right angle All air goes out. My inflator works very well on all my Schrader valves on bike and car. I have soemthing like this. In the beginning my bike basically went up and down in between deflating and inflating. For measuring pressure with my gage I have to turn the adapter a bit out or I lose all air again. So that is really not a great system unless I'm doing something majorly wrong. I tried it out with my hand pump that has a Presta valve and that worked. Maybe there are better adapters. Mine looks like this and it was free (with the bike).
Another accessories I need are fenders.
My MTB has one to snap to the seat post. But it looks obnoxious since it erects up, which covers my taillight (seat post mounted) as well. Giant has a few on their website and also this for the Toughroad. not sure if I like the look, but would have to try it out. My seatpost is not round (it is carbon fiber on the SLR1) and I'm not sure if tightening something to it is good, but don't have an indication it would be a problem. What fenders do you guys use?
Do you have front fenders at all? My MTB had a hole in the headset bottom and I had a front fender that clipped into this hole (which also protected the headset from dirt). but the Toughroad has no hole.
The rims are so narrow that the ring of the presta valve barely covers the flat part of the rim. So I guess I don't risk enlarging that hole. I also got a Presta-Schrader adapter. First my learning curve in that I could not do anything until
Another accessories I need are fenders.
My MTB has one to snap to the seat post. But it looks obnoxious since it erects up, which covers my taillight (seat post mounted) as well. Giant has a few on their website and also this for the Toughroad. not sure if I like the look, but would have to try it out. My seatpost is not round (it is carbon fiber on the SLR1) and I'm not sure if tightening something to it is good, but don't have an indication it would be a problem. What fenders do you guys use?
Do you have front fenders at all? My MTB had a hole in the headset bottom and I had a front fender that clipped into this hole (which also protected the headset from dirt). but the Toughroad has no hole.
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Edit again: anyone used these "self-sealing" tubes?
They also didn't really work, they never fully sealed while riding. It just turned a puncture into a slow leak, rather than a flat on the road. And sprayed green goo everywhere, making it nearly impossible to clean and patch.
Don't waste your money. If you really do have flat problems, converting to tubeless is much more effective.
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I have the Toughroad SLR 2. I chose it for its default gearing as I both use it for commuting to work and also mountain biking.
I put my full mudguards on during the weekdays with Schwalbe Marathon tyres, then remove them and swap tyres with the Maxxis for MTB. Back again by Sunday night. It's easy enough.
I got holes at the back of the fork. Check yours. It was not obvious to me at first. There's also a hole at the back where the rear rack would go that can also be shared by the rear mudguard.
I'm trying to post photos to show it but unable to. Any suggestions?
Cheers.
I put my full mudguards on during the weekdays with Schwalbe Marathon tyres, then remove them and swap tyres with the Maxxis for MTB. Back again by Sunday night. It's easy enough.
I got holes at the back of the fork. Check yours. It was not obvious to me at first. There's also a hole at the back where the rear rack would go that can also be shared by the rear mudguard.
I'm trying to post photos to show it but unable to. Any suggestions?
Cheers.
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At the LBS they showed me that hole when I asked for fenders. They showed me the Topeak Defender FX/RX and claimed it would be attached at that hole. But reading through the manual, I don't see any mentioning. They only mention using that huge headset hole (that the toughroad doesn't have). LBS only had the 27.5", so I didn't buy it. I don't think the sales people there know much - you have to catch the owner to get someone knowledgeable. so i'm not sure if they gave good advice or not. Which exact fenders do you have? I rode over some unpaved paths this weekend and definitely want fenders.
these topaek XC1/XC11 may fit onto the forks (not sure), but the front one alone cost $60. Ouch.
but there is also the Giant fender., but this seems to be on the Canadian site only.
I found a tube at LBS for $7.95. surprised they were that cheap compared to amazon. I even got it for free because with my new bike I got a voucher for free tube replacement and talked them into just giving me a tube to have with me (assuming they don't provide road site assistance :-)
Did someone find a good kickstand? On my tour I ran short of posts or railings to lean my bike on. Amazon has a user who used this on a toughroad (not much info). And there is a Giant-Mobility-Kickstand claiming to fit an array of Giant bikes (at least according this site)
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Did someone find a good kickstand? On my tour I ran short of posts or railings to lean my bike on. Amazon has a user who used this on a toughroad (not much info).
I cut out some old inner tube to put between the kickstand and my frame, not relying just on what comes with the kickstand.
And there is a Giant-Mobility-Kickstand claiming to fit an array of Giant bikes (at least according this site)
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Kick stand
O don't currently have a kickstand only because the balance between me wanting/needing one and with it being readily available for Toughroad (without sacrificing it's seamless design) does not motivate me to spend more time looking for one. But if there is one that's available, I won't mind buying one. That one from Giant looks good but last time I went to LBS they said they're not able to get it for me and offered others that does not appeal to me.
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Mudguards
Btw. My mudguards are the Planet Bike Cascadia - Wide (SuperFlex) search it and it should pop up. I still can't posts links. I bought mine for AU$60, full set.
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Preferred mudguards
Those Topeak mudguards look good. But my personal preference with mudguard are the ones that could go as close to the tyres as possible, making it almost part of the tyres/wheels. Also, I like how they contain the splashed in this way when I ride on wet days or after rain where roads are full of puddles.
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i removed the so-called frame fenders on my SLR2 - i thought they were more of an air drag than spoiler - and i saved a few grams too. I wonder if there's a way to also remove the plastic bracket that holds the wires to the frame on the down tube - how would i organise the cables then?
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On average, it weighs about 25 lbs stock.
Throw some carbon bars on it, carbon seatpost, lighter seat, tubeless tire setup, 1x drivetrain conversion, and some carbon rims or lighter aluminum rims...easily could get the bike in the 18-20 pound range.
Throw some carbon bars on it, carbon seatpost, lighter seat, tubeless tire setup, 1x drivetrain conversion, and some carbon rims or lighter aluminum rims...easily could get the bike in the 18-20 pound range.
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i removed the so-called frame fenders on my SLR2 - i thought they were more of an air drag than spoiler - and i saved a few grams too. I wonder if there's a way to also remove the plastic bracket that holds the wires to the frame on the down tube - how would i organise the cables then?
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O don't currently have a kickstand only because the balance between me wanting/needing one and with it being readily available for Toughroad (without sacrificing it's seamless design) does not motivate me to spend more time looking for one. But if there is one that's available, I won't mind buying one. That one from Giant looks good but last time I went to LBS they said they're not able to get it for me and offered others that does not appeal to me.
https://upstandingbicycle.com/
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Toughroad Mudguards
unless you link pictures from your own webstorage, they are limited to 97 kB.
At the LBS they showed me that hole when I asked for fenders. They showed me the Topeak Defender FX/RX and claimed it would be attached at that hole. But reading through the manual, I don't see any mentioning. They only mention using that huge headset hole (that the toughroad doesn't have). LBS only had the 27.5", so I didn't buy it. I don't think the sales people there know much - you have to catch the owner to get someone knowledgeable. so i'm not sure if they gave good advice or not. Which exact fenders do you have? I rode over some unpaved paths this weekend and definitely want fenders.
these topaek XC1/XC11 may fit onto the forks (not sure), but the front one alone cost $60. Ouch.
but there is also the Giant fender., but this seems to be on the Canadian site only.
I found a tube at LBS for $7.95. surprised they were that cheap compared to amazon. I even got it for free because with my new bike I got a voucher for free tube replacement and talked them into just giving me a tube to have with me (assuming they don't provide road site assistance :-)
Did someone find a good kickstand? On my tour I ran short of posts or railings to lean my bike on. Amazon has a user who used this on a toughroad (not much info). And there is a Giant-Mobility-Kickstand claiming to fit an array of Giant bikes (at least according this site)
At the LBS they showed me that hole when I asked for fenders. They showed me the Topeak Defender FX/RX and claimed it would be attached at that hole. But reading through the manual, I don't see any mentioning. They only mention using that huge headset hole (that the toughroad doesn't have). LBS only had the 27.5", so I didn't buy it. I don't think the sales people there know much - you have to catch the owner to get someone knowledgeable. so i'm not sure if they gave good advice or not. Which exact fenders do you have? I rode over some unpaved paths this weekend and definitely want fenders.
these topaek XC1/XC11 may fit onto the forks (not sure), but the front one alone cost $60. Ouch.
but there is also the Giant fender., but this seems to be on the Canadian site only.
I found a tube at LBS for $7.95. surprised they were that cheap compared to amazon. I even got it for free because with my new bike I got a voucher for free tube replacement and talked them into just giving me a tube to have with me (assuming they don't provide road site assistance :-)
Did someone find a good kickstand? On my tour I ran short of posts or railings to lean my bike on. Amazon has a user who used this on a toughroad (not much info). And there is a Giant-Mobility-Kickstand claiming to fit an array of Giant bikes (at least according this site)
Hey I'm able to post photos now. I took photos of where the holes are on my Toughroad that I attached my mudguards. I hope you got these on your one as well. Please have a look. Cheers.
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