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Old 03-16-17, 09:45 AM
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What about the handlebars? Is extra stuff there a plus or minus for a serious cyclist? Pristine bar tape, bar showing through the tape?
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Old 03-16-17, 09:46 AM
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NOT wearing professional team kits
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Old 03-16-17, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
Oops.


I'm being entirely facetious. Smart ass, even.
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Old 03-16-17, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jfowler85
I'm being entirely facetious. Smart ass, even.
You simply cannot take any chances these days!
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Old 03-16-17, 09:53 AM
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"Serious cyclist" -- example of: the late Patrick Plaine (d. 2012 aet. 70).
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Old 03-16-17, 09:54 AM
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Am I?
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Old 03-16-17, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hsuehhwa
NOT wearing professional team kits
The whole kit or any part of the kit? Would wearing the jersey of an active team completely or partially exclude one from being a serious cyclist? What if the team is defunct? What about team caps?
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Old 03-16-17, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hsuehhwa
For those average >4000 mi OR >300K ft of elevation per yr:


Tan lines, flat stomach, lean and fit but without significant muscle mass on the upper body....narrow shoulders (looking good in very slim Italian suit...)


It's not unusual for serious cyclists to check out or comment on each others' body shapes, eg, "you must be a good climber.." "good sprinter..."
Lol.
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Old 03-16-17, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
serious cyclist. I previously attempted a serious answer to that question:

a “cyclist” has a fluid rotary pedaling motion, whereas I think “bike rider”when I see someone pedaling in a piston-like
Originally Posted by Doge
Yea- but...The piston like, stomp, stomp, stomp is how you go faster.
That can be relative. I have on occasion been stomp…stamp…stomping up hills, only to be passed by a cyclist, more serious than I, pedaling in a fluid rotary motion.
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Old 03-16-17, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
...I mean, if you live in southern California (just as an example!) it is no challenge at all to rack those coveted "KOMs."
It seems there are two camps:
-Being serious is performance related
-Being serious is emotionally related

The term itself is an emotional one. So I can only tell if others are serious cyclists by the clues they give off as to their emotions.

As a kid I knew those in Africa that spent hours a day on the bike taking stuff to/from Market. I expect they had never heard of Campy or Shimano. They just road. They would have dropped the bike in a second if someone offered them another means to do their job. So cycling was not a 1st choice, rather a tool.

Asking how to tell if someone is a serious cyclist is like asking how you know if someone is in love. There are signs, clues, actions, but I can't tell.

BTW - The SoCal KOMs are seriously hard to get.
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Old 03-16-17, 10:02 AM
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If you observe the 'Rules' then you are a serious cyclist.
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Old 03-16-17, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
Thank you for the clarification. I'm writing all of this down and making a little cheat sheet to take with me on my next ride. It will be kind of like a little ornithological outing.
Good idea! I'm going to print out @69chevy's suggestions and tape them to my top tube. We could even break it down into "serious zones" like HR.
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Old 03-16-17, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
Good idea! I'm going to print out @69chevy's suggestions and tape them to my top tube. We could even break it down into "serious zones" like HR.
And don't forget your binoculars!
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Originally Posted by Doge
It seems there are two camps:
-Being serious is performance related
-Being serious is emotionally related

The term itself is an emotional one. So I can only tell if others are serious cyclists by the clues they give off as to their emotions.

As a kid I knew those in Africa that spent hours a day on the bike taking stuff to/from Market. I expect they had never heard of Campy or Shimano. They just road. They would have dropped the bike in a second if someone offered them another means to do their job. So cycling was not a 1st choice, rather a tool.

Asking how to tell if someone is a serious cyclist is like asking how you know if someone is in love. There are signs, clues, actions, but I can't tell.

BTW - The SoCal KOMs are seriously hard to get.
Why do I always feel as if I'm interacting with Albert Camus?
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Old 03-16-17, 10:14 AM
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Why do I always feel as if I'm interacting with Albert Camus?
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Old 03-16-17, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry77
I have never said "serious cyclist" but I have said "serious about cycling". I'm known at work (hospital) to be serious about my cycling so people talk about bikes or riding a lot. When they are talking about their hybrid or their "10-speed", I don't consider them "serious about cycling" so I don't invite them to one of the group rides I'm part of. If they are talking about "cycling season" or their new build, etc, then I invite them to ride.

So to be "serious about cycling" one has to have an approved bike, but they have to park it during some non-cycling season?
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Old 03-16-17, 10:31 AM
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A serious cyclist is one who snorts and huffs when he/she is forced to slow down for a mom or dad pulling their child in a trailer on the mup. This is a for-sure sign; better than Strava KOMs/mileage, etc.
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Old 03-16-17, 10:33 AM
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Does the sleeper/sandbagger exist in cycling? They wouldn't be conforming to the standards stated in the thread so far. Are they considered "serious?"
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Old 03-16-17, 10:40 AM
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These guys look serious.


Serious Cycling / Racing Team
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Old 03-16-17, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 69chevy
These guys look serious.


Serious Cycling / Racing Team
LOL. The design on those shorts look like a couple of red peckers kissing...serious fer sure.
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Old 03-16-17, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
LOL. The design on those shorts look like a couple of red peckers kissing...serious fer sure.
Now, aren't you an observant chap?
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Old 03-16-17, 11:02 AM
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This is behind me. I thought it looked serious.
You have a number on your bike. And a seat cover.
MASI2.0 Serious.jpg

And not when you do this.
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Old 03-16-17, 11:04 AM
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whether or not they wave when you pass them
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Originally Posted by Doge
I went to bed a bit after this post and asked my wife who the most serious cyclist she knows is. I dropped some old timer names. Pete/Jim Penseyres, Wayne Stetina, Thurlow Rogers, John Howard - all locals that still put in the miles. Without hesitation she said "Brandon" [McNulty]. So her view was to be serious, you needed it to be a profession.
That is not my view.

I got to meet John at the Tour of California. That's a buddy of mine with the fastest man and the fastest woman in the world.
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