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Old 08-05-20, 05:32 AM
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Cheap 8sp freewheels on sale

Sportchek.ca has Falcon FX-LX80 13-28 8 speed freewheels for ten dollars - "Final Sale"

Only one local store has any left.

I ordered two for pickup to see what they're like.
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Do they come with extra axles for the ones you’ll break running that 8-speed freewheel? There’s a good reason why cassette hubs replaced freewheel hubs as # of gears increased.
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I've never used Falcon for replacement freewheels. They were common on department store bicycles and I've seen too many problems with them, including everything from pawl issues to split cogs. So, unless they've raised their standards recently, I'd avoid them.
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Like the others, I've never seen the need for an 8-speed freewheel. If I'm running friction, then 5, 6 or 7 speeds are perfectly fine, being not a "heavy" rider. If I'm starting with an 8-speed shifter, then I'll find a freehub rear wheel for the build.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Do they come with extra axles for the ones you’ll break running that 8-speed freewheel? There’s a good reason why cassette hubs replaced freewheel hubs as # of gears increased.
Wheels Manufacturing makes suitable high strength axles
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Originally Posted by sced
Wheels Manufacturing makes suitable high strength axles
Interesting. Are they are actually stronger than Campag.? (I broke a 126mm Campag. rear axle on a 6-speed rig.)
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I normally see solid axles as being a good solution, but even the CrMo ones tend to bend when used with 7 and 8 speed freewheels. It's much better than breaking, that's for sure!

I once turned someone an axle out of scrap Inconel 718 on the Hardinge HLV lathe. She had broken a hollow axle running a 7 or 8 speed freewheel, and could not find a solid axle for sale. I machined it with a step that seats against the cone, like those old Raleigh axles, on the right side. I don't know if it helped things, but it certainly didn't hurt, as I radiused the step to avoid a stress-riser. Hard to fathom why solid axles don't come this way. It's the only solid axle I have ever seen that hasn't bent in use with a 7 or 8 speed freewheel, but I think it weighs more than my entire American Classic rear hub.

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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
. . . If I'm starting with an 8-speed shifter, then I'll find a freehub rear wheel for the build.
Glad to see that you, too, have built an entire bicycle around a shifter.
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Originally Posted by sced
Wheels Manufacturing makes suitable high strength axles
They are stronger than cheap hub axles but no stronger than Campy and other high end hub axles. They still break, even with only 6- and 7-speed, which use 126 mm OLD. When you go to 8-speed, you are widening the OLD to 130 mm, which is a bridge too far. Those are not going to work unless you're a 98 lb weakling riding on roads as smooth as a baby's bottom.
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Originally Posted by davester
They are stronger than cheap hub axles but no stronger than Campy and other high end hub axles. They still break, even with only 6- and 7-speed, which use 126 mm OLD. When you go to 8-speed, you are widening the OLD to 130 mm, which is a bridge too far. Those are not going to work unless you're a 98 lb weakling riding on roads as smooth as a baby's bottom.
How do you know this to be true?
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Originally Posted by sced
How do you know this to be true?
Through experience breaking a number of Campy and Wheels Mfg axles at about the same rate. Also, both axle types are hardened. There's no magic spell that Wheels Mfg has to harden axles any better than Campy, Shimano, etc.
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Originally Posted by conspiratemus1
Glad to see that you, too, have built an entire bicycle around a shifter.
I have actually done this. I bought a pair of MicroShift R7 shifters, and then found a Schwinn Circuit project to carry them.
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Originally Posted by davester
Through experience breaking a number of Campy and Wheels Mfg axles at about the same rate. Also, both axle types are hardened. There's no magic spell that Wheels Mfg has to harden axles any better than Campy, Shimano, etc.
How much do you weigh?
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