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Old 08-20-13, 02:53 PM
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Why is my crank slipping?

I built up my new fixed gear over last couple of months. Just got new wheel set yesterday and I haven't ridden the bike much until today. A couple of times today when pedaling hard (taking off from a stop) I could feel it slip where it felt like the cranks moved and the rear wheel didn't.

I had the chain tension very tight. I adjusted it to give it a little slack and still had the slip. Anything else I should be looking at?
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loose fixed cog on the rear.
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Old 08-20-13, 03:13 PM
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Bingo^^ common and easily identifiable problem
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Ok cool. I just got the wheels and they pre-installed the cog/lock ring for me since I don't have the proper tools. I'll look at that and see if I can tighten it
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Originally Posted by rms13
Ok cool. I just got the wheels and they pre-installed the cog/lock ring for me since I don't have the proper tools. I'll look at that and see if I can tighten it
Going to need one of these...



and one of these...



and some of this...

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Old 08-20-13, 03:58 PM
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or...:

https://204.73.203.34/fisso/eng/schpignone.htm

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Other option: loose chainring bolts.
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Old 08-20-13, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rms13
That may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Why not just leave the chain on the cog normally then stomp on your pedals like it's a roadie's face?... then tighten up your lock ring.
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Originally Posted by bones_mcbones
That may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Why not just leave the chain on the cog normally then stomp on your pedals like it's a roadie's face?... then tighten up your lock ring.
You can exert far more torque with your hands turning the wheel than you can stomping on a drive train, or cranking a chain whip. If it seems ghetto to you, you are more than welcome to use a chain whip, but its not dumb.
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Old 08-21-13, 07:01 AM
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I've never bothered with the rotofix method. It's just not necessary.

People seem to think you need superhuman amounts of torque to properly install a cog when in reality, all you need is to not be an idiot.

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Never used the rotofix method. My method is to brace the front wheel against a wall and stand on the forward pedal, using my full weight as leverage to tighten the cog. After tightening the cog, I remove the wheel and install the lockring just tight enough to keep it snug so it won't unscrew on its own. In nearly 40 years I've never had a cog get loose.
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I didn't see anyone suggest greasing the threads.
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rotafix is not dumb, but (imo) it is unnecessary. pretty useful and easy way to get a cog off, tho, if you don't have a chainwhip. i like to use TT's method for tightening cogs, or just ride up the steepest hill i can find and tighten the lockring immediately afterwards.

and yes, grease your threads.
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I... I uhh.. I just use a chainwhip...?
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Well, I ordered a tool off ebay. Until then I'll use more front brake

One thing to note is this was happening more with my previous wheel set which makes me skeptical about the cog/lock ring
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no thanks, rotafix, I happen to prefer not ****ing up my bb shell.
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
no thanks, rotafix, I happen to prefer not ****ing up my bb shell.
Wrap your bb shell with a rag.
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Old 08-22-13, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
You can exert far more torque with your hands turning the wheel than you can stomping on a drive train, or cranking a chain whip. If it seems ghetto to you, you are more than welcome to use a chain whip, but its not dumb.
On second glance it is interesting, I'm sure it works, seems damaging to the chain.


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Well, I ordered a tool off ebay. Until then I'll use more front brake

One thing to note is this was happening more with my previous wheel set which makes me skeptical about the cog/lock ring
wut?
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Originally Posted by bones_mcbones
On second glance it is interesting, I'm sure it works, seems damaging to the chain.




wut?
I had a different wheelset when I first built up this bike and I was getting the same slipping. I just installed the new wheel set two days ago and still getting the same slipping. The first wheelset was super cheapo machine built set that came on a $130 fixie. The new set was custom built by Velomine and they installed the cog and log ring. Could both wheel sets have a loose cog? Maybe but to me that points to something else.

The chain ring bolts were also a little loose so I tightened those. Never tightened them out of the box but my lbs installed the crank and bb so I figured they would
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Originally Posted by rms13
Could both wheel sets have a loose cog?
yes
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your cog/lock ring is loose.
I ordered a tb14 wheelset from velomine and asked them to install cog/locking and it was indeed loose. Once i figured out the problem was i just rode around did some mashing and ride to a shop and ask to use a lockring tool.
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Originally Posted by rms13
Well, I ordered a tool off ebay. Until then I'll use more front brake
Dude, go to a ****ing bike shop and have them tighten your cog and lockring before you screw up your hub.
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Old 08-22-13, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Dude, go to a ****ing bike shop and have them tighten your cog and lockring before you screw up your hub.
Well, I don't have a car so that would involve riding the bike to the shop. And riding up a big hill to get there. So, in theory that should tighten my cog right?

But seriously, I'll wait until I have the proper tool.
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How are you going to tighten the lockring if you only bought a chain whip, or tighten the cog if you only bought a lockring tool? It seems like you should have bought at least 2 tools from ebay.
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Originally Posted by prooftheory
How are you going to tighten the lockring if you only bought a chain whip, or tighten the cog if you only bought a lockring tool? It seems like you should have bought at least 2 tools from ebay.
modern innovations?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chain-Whip-S...item4ac3adb175
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