Vintage Cyclocross bikes? Please post yours
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Bianchi Tangent
This is essentially the same as vikz Bianchi Axis. Had a little work done.
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Bianchi Tangent
I was able to get this Japanese framed Bianchi off CL locally, about 3 months ago, after bianchigirl warded off an interested party w/ scary stories of Rust and other devils. So I'd like to thank her, because finding these cool frames in my size is not that easy. So gratzi. oh and also, arigatou.
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Really nice looking build. Congrats!
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I have a lugged, 1" threaded headset Pinarello CX bike. I plan to keep it forever...
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This is a 1995 Waterford X-11, their "entry level" cross bike that I guess they made for just a year or so. The Waterford website doesn't even have any information on it. I bought it new from Millcreek Bikes in SLC to use as a winter commuter bike. Since moving to the Midwest it has been converted into a gravel bike. Which basically means I double wrapped the bars and left just about everything else as is was. One thing I need to change however is the brakes...they are not very good. They really don't act as brakes, more like "speed adjusters." As it sits in the photo it is rolling on 30mm Challenge Eroicia tubulars because right now there is no gravel, just a lot of hard packed clay road base that you can just fly on.
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These are sweet bikes and hard to find. We sold a few Pinarello cross bikes but they are not an easy sell.
The B'stone XO series (the ones with drops and road geometry) are an interesting take on a cross bikes.
It's funny how mainstream cross bikes have become. They make a heck of a lot of sense since you get road geometry with comfy wheels but they were a hard sell for many years.
The B'stone XO series (the ones with drops and road geometry) are an interesting take on a cross bikes.
It's funny how mainstream cross bikes have become. They make a heck of a lot of sense since you get road geometry with comfy wheels but they were a hard sell for many years.
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This is a 1995 Waterford X-11, their "entry level" cross bike that I guess they made for just a year or so. The Waterford website doesn't even have any information on it. I bought it new from Millcreek Bikes in SLC to use as a winter commuter bike. Since moving to the Midwest it has been converted into a gravel bike. Which basically means I double wrapped the bars and left just about everything else as is was. One thing I need to change however is the brakes...they are not very good. They really don't act as brakes, more like "speed adjusters." As it sits in the photo it is rolling on 30mm Challenge Eroicia tubulars because right now there is no gravel, just a lot of hard packed clay road base that you can just fly on.
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Gios cx bike in your photos
[QUOTE=verktyg;17386763]We sold some of these Zeus P66 Cyclocross bikes in the mid 1970s. Zeus was big in CX back then and a lot of their bikes were rebadged to race under other colors.
The frames were Durifort and the brakes were probably MAFAC cantilevers with Zeus levers??? They were 5 speeds with a singe barcon on the right side. The angles were relaxed and they had long wheel bases.
We converted them to 10 speeds and sold them as touring bikes which they were ideally suited for.
Here's some pictures of a 1975 Gios CX bike:
This is a staged photo for a Gios ad. The bike Roger De Vlaeminck is carrying is a standard Gios road bike.
Here's shots of De Vlaeminck on real Gios CX bikes.
A Colnago CX bike
We started riding off road on road bikes in 1976. Used CX sewups whenever possible, otherwise 700x35c "Ville" urban bike clinchers that we got from France.
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Hi,
I know this is an old thread, but I bought a 70's cyclocross bike a couple of years ago. It was poorly painted to look like a Gazelle and I did not believe that's what it was. I stripped the paint off it and left it hanging in the garage. However, for some reason I started looking at CX bike threads on the internet this morning and stumbled across the pictures you posted of the GIOS. I'm pretty sure that's what I have, mainly because of the distinctive lugwork and braze on cable bosses right up on the headset lower lugs. The frame is very light and has the same Hatteswan headset, and what look to be original campag bottom bracket, nuovo record derailleur, bar end shifters. Mafac cantilever brakes. I was wondering what the frame is made out of..seatpost OD is 28.6mm, id seems to be approx 27mm? Columbus..?
Thanks
The frames were Durifort and the brakes were probably MAFAC cantilevers with Zeus levers??? They were 5 speeds with a singe barcon on the right side. The angles were relaxed and they had long wheel bases.
We converted them to 10 speeds and sold them as touring bikes which they were ideally suited for.
Here's some pictures of a 1975 Gios CX bike:
This is a staged photo for a Gios ad. The bike Roger De Vlaeminck is carrying is a standard Gios road bike.
Here's shots of De Vlaeminck on real Gios CX bikes.
A Colnago CX bike
We started riding off road on road bikes in 1976. Used CX sewups whenever possible, otherwise 700x35c "Ville" urban bike clinchers that we got from France.
verktyg :50
Hi,
I know this is an old thread, but I bought a 70's cyclocross bike a couple of years ago. It was poorly painted to look like a Gazelle and I did not believe that's what it was. I stripped the paint off it and left it hanging in the garage. However, for some reason I started looking at CX bike threads on the internet this morning and stumbled across the pictures you posted of the GIOS. I'm pretty sure that's what I have, mainly because of the distinctive lugwork and braze on cable bosses right up on the headset lower lugs. The frame is very light and has the same Hatteswan headset, and what look to be original campag bottom bracket, nuovo record derailleur, bar end shifters. Mafac cantilever brakes. I was wondering what the frame is made out of..seatpost OD is 28.6mm, id seems to be approx 27mm? Columbus..?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=levoz;20312704]
There was some kind of CX bike connection between Zeus and Gazelle in the mid 70's. There's several pages of pictures of this in Zeus's 1974-75? catalog. It may just have been that Gazelle used Zeus components??
Zeus frames were made with metric diameter tubing: 26mm top tubes with 28mm seat and down tubes.
Gios used a distinctive seat tube/seat stay attachment - hard to miss. They probably used the heavier gage Columbus SP tubing which was butted 0.7mm x 1.0mm. That should have taken a 27.0mm seatpost, but...
Manufacturers, frequently used undersized seatposts because they never bothered to round out and ream the seat tubes. They frequently warped out of round while brazing on the seat stays or they lugs could have been out of round to begin with. Also the seat tubes bulged inside the lugs from excess heat.
During the 70's we sold a lot of pro bikes and frames at our shop. We made steel mandrels to round out the tops of the seat tubes and removed some of the internal bulges, then we reamed them to size.
Also, someone could have used a 26.8mm seatpost instead of the proper 27.0mm size for whatever reason???
CX bikes were built to be trashed so I wouldn't expect much in the way of cosmetics.
We sold some of these Zeus P66 Cyclocross bikes in the mid 1970s. Zeus was big in CX back then and a lot of their bikes were rebadged to race under other colors.
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Hi,
I know this is an old thread, but I bought a 70's cyclocross bike a couple of years ago. It was poorly painted to look like a Gazelle and I did not believe that's what it was. I stripped the paint off it and left it hanging in the garage. However, for some reason I started looking at CX bike threads on the internet this morning and stumbled across the pictures you posted of the GIOS. I'm pretty sure that's what I have, mainly because of the distinctive lugwork and braze on cable bosses right up on the headset lower lugs. The frame is very light and has the same Hatteswan headset, and what look to be original campag bottom bracket, nuovo record derailleur, bar end shifters. Mafac cantilever brakes. I was wondering what the frame is made out of..seatpost OD is 28.6mm, id seems to be approx 27mm? Columbus..?
Thanks
verktyg :50
Hi,
I know this is an old thread, but I bought a 70's cyclocross bike a couple of years ago. It was poorly painted to look like a Gazelle and I did not believe that's what it was. I stripped the paint off it and left it hanging in the garage. However, for some reason I started looking at CX bike threads on the internet this morning and stumbled across the pictures you posted of the GIOS. I'm pretty sure that's what I have, mainly because of the distinctive lugwork and braze on cable bosses right up on the headset lower lugs. The frame is very light and has the same Hatteswan headset, and what look to be original campag bottom bracket, nuovo record derailleur, bar end shifters. Mafac cantilever brakes. I was wondering what the frame is made out of..seatpost OD is 28.6mm, id seems to be approx 27mm? Columbus..?
Thanks
Zeus frames were made with metric diameter tubing: 26mm top tubes with 28mm seat and down tubes.
Gios used a distinctive seat tube/seat stay attachment - hard to miss. They probably used the heavier gage Columbus SP tubing which was butted 0.7mm x 1.0mm. That should have taken a 27.0mm seatpost, but...
Manufacturers, frequently used undersized seatposts because they never bothered to round out and ream the seat tubes. They frequently warped out of round while brazing on the seat stays or they lugs could have been out of round to begin with. Also the seat tubes bulged inside the lugs from excess heat.
During the 70's we sold a lot of pro bikes and frames at our shop. We made steel mandrels to round out the tops of the seat tubes and removed some of the internal bulges, then we reamed them to size.
Also, someone could have used a 26.8mm seatpost instead of the proper 27.0mm size for whatever reason???
CX bikes were built to be trashed so I wouldn't expect much in the way of cosmetics.
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Zeus, Gios or ??
[QUOTE=verktyg;20313517][QUOTE=levoz;203127
Thanks for your reply,
Unfortunately I'm a newby so I cannot post any pictures. The cable routing and the type of cable stops (ie the brazed on fittings on the top tube and on the headstock/downtube junction)) used by Gios look exactly the same as my frame. However, the lug work is different on mine, more fancy with little cutouts in the bits where the frame tubes are brazed. Kind of like Gazelles. It weighs 1940g (54cm) which is approx the same as a Reynolds 531c road frame (56cm) which I have also stripped.
Thanks for your reply,
Unfortunately I'm a newby so I cannot post any pictures. The cable routing and the type of cable stops (ie the brazed on fittings on the top tube and on the headstock/downtube junction)) used by Gios look exactly the same as my frame. However, the lug work is different on mine, more fancy with little cutouts in the bits where the frame tubes are brazed. Kind of like Gazelles. It weighs 1940g (54cm) which is approx the same as a Reynolds 531c road frame (56cm) which I have also stripped.
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1990's. Bianchi ti.
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