2018 Industry Figures: 78% Increase in E-Bike Sales$: All Other Categories in Decline
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I don't agree with the decision to move the thread. The data is for the entire industry, not just for e-bikes.
I'm interested in the rising popularity of gravel bikes as well for example. The roads around my parts are in increasingly poor condition. I'm starting to think I'd be better off buying a gravel bike like the diverge instead of going with a marginally wider tire on my road bike.
A bike like the diverge would allow me to ride in comfort on the broken up roads and paved trails, and also to ride on the relatively smooth off-road trails in my area. I think it would be a blast quite frankly. It looks like there is a diverge at the $2K price point which might be just up my alley. I might want to add a rack and turn it into an occasional day touring and errand bike as well. Quiver!
I was hoping we could have a semi-civil discussion on the changes in the bicycle industry but the trolls rushed in and forced the mod's hands.
Too bad cyclists on this forum are so fixed in their thinking that any changes are perceived as a threat.
I'm interested in the rising popularity of gravel bikes as well for example. The roads around my parts are in increasingly poor condition. I'm starting to think I'd be better off buying a gravel bike like the diverge instead of going with a marginally wider tire on my road bike.
A bike like the diverge would allow me to ride in comfort on the broken up roads and paved trails, and also to ride on the relatively smooth off-road trails in my area. I think it would be a blast quite frankly. It looks like there is a diverge at the $2K price point which might be just up my alley. I might want to add a rack and turn it into an occasional day touring and errand bike as well. Quiver!
I was hoping we could have a semi-civil discussion on the changes in the bicycle industry but the trolls rushed in and forced the mod's hands.
Too bad cyclists on this forum are so fixed in their thinking that any changes are perceived as a threat.
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I wouldn't hesitate to get a gravel rig. Some of them get a little heavy, so keep an eye on that if weight matters to you.
My local Performance had a Marin Gestalt for $379 or so during their last week in business. I forget exactly which model, but it weighed 25 lbs, much better than the portly Four Corners which was 28 lbs, and just about the same price I think.
My local Performance had a Marin Gestalt for $379 or so during their last week in business. I forget exactly which model, but it weighed 25 lbs, much better than the portly Four Corners which was 28 lbs, and just about the same price I think.
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https://www.bicycleretailer.com/stud...s#.XFRtlS2ZMy5... The average wholesale price of a bike in 2018 was up 15 percent, from $467 in 2017 to $537 in 2018.
Adding e-bikes to the mix contributed to the higher selling price. E-bike sales were up $54 million from the year prior, a 78 percent increase.
The average wholesale price was $2,033.
Adding e-bikes to the mix contributed to the higher selling price. E-bike sales were up $54 million from the year prior, a 78 percent increase.
The average wholesale price was $2,033.
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It's odd that the two segments of the cycling industry with the biggest sales increases are so unpopular on this forum.
E-bikes (5 viewing)
Gravel (28 viewing)
Vintage (135 viewing)
It seems like the forum is stuck in the past, unable or unwilling to keep up with a changing industry.
E-bikes (5 viewing)
Gravel (28 viewing)
Vintage (135 viewing)
It seems like the forum is stuck in the past, unable or unwilling to keep up with a changing industry.
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the forum has no control over what people post and read about. We dedicated a forum to recreational gravel bikes, but we can't force anyone to go in there that doesn't want to do so. It seems like a fairly popular forum.
This thread fits fine in here and seems a bit like trolling in other forums. We aren't interested in a thread that is an invitation for ebike bashing in the rest of the forum. ebike bashing in the ebike forum needs to be fairly limited or we will deal with it. Threads about using an ebike for touring, racing, long distance, gravel riding, mountain biking or folding all belong in here, and not in the rest of the forum. ebikers are certainly welcome to post in other forums with the caveat that they don't derail threads into discussions about ebikes.
This forum doesn't just have to be about dead batteries and other hardware topics. I look at the list of threads and don't see any that particularly interest me. I mostly just monitor this forum for spammers. People have fun on their ebikes, but I see little evidence of that in this forum.
This forum doesn't just have to be about dead batteries and other hardware topics. I look at the list of threads and don't see any that particularly interest me. I mostly just monitor this forum for spammers. People have fun on their ebikes, but I see little evidence of that in this forum.
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Anyone who wants to see a useless forum go to MTBR where the so called super moderator allows the haters to run rampant. The cretins have scared most of the contributors who desire to discuss eMTB''s, components and other related issues away.
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Spoonrobot, it appears that you failed to read to the end of my post.
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Don't worry, these electric bike thingies are a compete waste of time and won't last. They do everything a bike should not, as in use non-renewable energy for no benefiit to the planet whatsoever. I'm comfortable for people over 70, once they've been vetted and passed OK by their Drs, to be granted a permit to use these ill-begotten means of transport, but, apart from that, what's the point? What worries me more are the scooters and other two wheel devices you see on the pavements everywhere these days, weaving in and out of the pedestrian traffic. These devices should require a licence, and should either be restricted to the roads or cycle lanes.
The other point is, of course, that disposing of these things creates yet another pollutant we could well do without, in the form of the batteries.
The other point is, of course, that disposing of these things creates yet another pollutant we could well do without, in the form of the batteries.
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It's odd that the two segments of the cycling industry with the biggest sales increases are so unpopular on this forum.
E-bikes (5 viewing)
Gravel (28 viewing)
Vintage (135 viewing)
It seems like the forum is stuck in the past, unable or unwilling to keep up with a changing industry.
E-bikes (5 viewing)
Gravel (28 viewing)
Vintage (135 viewing)
It seems like the forum is stuck in the past, unable or unwilling to keep up with a changing industry.
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https://www.bicycleretailer.com/stud...s#.XFRtlS2ZMy5... The average wholesale price of a bike in 2018 was up 15 percent, from $467 in 2017 to $537 in 2018.
Adding e-bikes to the mix contributed to the higher selling price. E-bike sales were up $54 million from the year prior, a 78 percent increase.
The average wholesale price was $2,033.
Adding e-bikes to the mix contributed to the higher selling price. E-bike sales were up $54 million from the year prior, a 78 percent increase.
The average wholesale price was $2,033.
So road bike sales are staying steady in numbers, and far greater numbers than E-Bikes (Other).
Mountain Bikes are still king.
In Dollars, Road bikes are up there (and increasing).
E-Bikes (Other), are also really expensive, and taking up a huge chunk by total cost. Cargo Bikes? Trikes & Recumbents?
I thought I was seeing a lot of prices on carbon fiber road bikes crashing, but apparently the average price is still going up. Odd????
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Interesting stats.
So road bike sales are staying steady in numbers, and far greater numbers than E-Bikes (Other).
Mountain Bikes are still king.
In Dollars, Road bikes are up there (and increasing).
E-Bikes (Other), are also really expensive, and taking up a huge chunk by total cost. Cargo Bikes? Trikes & Recumbents?
I thought I was seeing a lot of prices on carbon fiber road bikes crashing, but apparently the average price is still going up. Odd????
So road bike sales are staying steady in numbers, and far greater numbers than E-Bikes (Other).
Mountain Bikes are still king.
In Dollars, Road bikes are up there (and increasing).
E-Bikes (Other), are also really expensive, and taking up a huge chunk by total cost. Cargo Bikes? Trikes & Recumbents?
I thought I was seeing a lot of prices on carbon fiber road bikes crashing, but apparently the average price is still going up. Odd????
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I'm disappointed that ebike sales are so flat. I know there is heightened interest in them. Sure, it might pull sales from trasit/fitness and leisure bikes. Maybe a little from road.
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"E-bike sales were up $54 million from the year prior, a 78 percent increase."
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That's a lot of money, but I'm just looking at the graph and thinking that ebikes should be a lot bigger percentage of total sales
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It seems there are a lot of big players getting into e-bikes. GM, Yamaha, BMW, etc. This isn't just about the changing bicycle market. If the future of cars is auto-piloted Uber type vehicles, how will people just go for a Sunday drive?
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/1...s-price-europe
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/1...s-price-europe
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wasn't it lyft that said the future of short trips is ebikes and scooters?
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We are way behind Europe in this regard... E-bike sales are now projected to grow dramatically in the next few years
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I really think there is a lot of interest, but the money is too much and there aren't enough dealers.
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If this keeps up, the high-end bikes will be those with lightweight powerful motors, and our feather-light carbon fiber race bikes will be looked at as manually operated beaters, in the shape of a bicycle but with no power, and adequate for short trips for those who can't afford a real bike or don't appreciate the performance of powerful motors.
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In one year.
The cognitive dissonance is very interesting. People are just blanking out the info in the title.
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I stand behind by comment... We are way behind Europe in this regard... E-bike sales are now projected to grow dramatically in the next few years
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We are all better off with more two wheeled vehicles - pedal bikes, ebikes, motorcycles, balance bikes, etc... - on the road because that puts pressure on towns, counties, states, etc... to accommodate us. This “healthier-than-thou” divide helps no one.
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E-bike sales would probably be doing even better if there weren't so many haters. As if their popularity is in some way threatening to those using manual bikes..
I have to say though, i only see this on forums. I use an e-bike daily, and i get no hate at all, people love it. Especially when my kid's on the back.
I have to say though, i only see this on forums. I use an e-bike daily, and i get no hate at all, people love it. Especially when my kid's on the back.
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IMO, most (all) of the haters are on forums. I've been riding e-bikes (both on and off road) for four years and have never had a negative interaction. The major problem in "the OC" is the superintendent of county parks has prohibited e-MTB's from all trails and many state parks prohibit too. This is incongruous to me since many parks are very sparsely populated especially during the week. There are at least 10 local areas where I encounter another rider (not a group, one rider) less than 20% of the time. The haters may have influenced prohibition in some areas.
The resultant is my LBS has had difficulty selling them.
The resultant is my LBS has had difficulty selling them.