Buying a frame: Standover?
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Buying a frame: Standover?
Now that I live in te PNW, it's time to try Cross.
I think I'm going to buy a Cooper CX frame tomorrow, if i can come to a conclusion that works.
Here's the deal. I have short legs (30.5" pbh, 30" jeans inseam) with a long torso (5'9 to 5'10", so probably the torso of someone closer to 6'). With their high BBs, a lot cross bikes that should fit me have no clearance over the TT.
The Medium Cooper has a TT of 55cm, which sounds about right. But while the seat tube is only 52.6, the high BB gives it a standover that just brushes up against parts I'd rather keep away from titanium pipes.
If I size down to the Small, I get 2 extra cm of standover, but lose a cm of TT and 2cm of HT height (with a slight slackening).
Is any of that a big deal? I imagine I might need to stem out an extra cm, and maybe get a bit of setback on the seatpost.
I think I'm going to buy a Cooper CX frame tomorrow, if i can come to a conclusion that works.
Here's the deal. I have short legs (30.5" pbh, 30" jeans inseam) with a long torso (5'9 to 5'10", so probably the torso of someone closer to 6'). With their high BBs, a lot cross bikes that should fit me have no clearance over the TT.
The Medium Cooper has a TT of 55cm, which sounds about right. But while the seat tube is only 52.6, the high BB gives it a standover that just brushes up against parts I'd rather keep away from titanium pipes.
If I size down to the Small, I get 2 extra cm of standover, but lose a cm of TT and 2cm of HT height (with a slight slackening).
Is any of that a big deal? I imagine I might need to stem out an extra cm, and maybe get a bit of setback on the seatpost.
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I have the same problem. I have very little standover on my cross frame...it jams right up there but the reach is correct for me. The only time this bothers me is when i'm sitting in a parking lot waiting for a group ride to start and I'm chatting with people. It's a bit uncomfortable doing that, but I haven't found any issues riding the bike or even riding on cyclocross courses.
I would honestly go with the bike that is correctly sized for your reach and not think too much about standover height.
I would honestly go with the bike that is correctly sized for your reach and not think too much about standover height.
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If it was me, I would buy the bike that fits best when I was riding it. I don't ride with my feet on the ground.
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Thanks. I'm fairly snug on my roadie ( a little less, because it has 1.5cm more BB drop), but it hasn't been a problem. I just didn't know if cyclocross' mounts and dismounts in sloppy conditions would ever lead to accidental "tube-slams," for lack of a better word.
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Well you and me are twins cormacf! I have the same exact dimensions as you listed, and struggle with this same issue. I do not do any "cyclecrossing" however, so I am not sure what my advice is worth... Anywho, for any bike other than a road bike, I would get the smaller size. I just know that I would think about there being a clearance problem constantly while riding, even if there never was an occurrence. You can always make up a cm here or there with a longer stem, handlebars with more reach, a setback seatpost, or even a saddle that has longer rails for more adjustment. Just my opinion...
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whatever you get, do it so and practice those mounts!
cross is coming!
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I have the same exact issue. 5 ft 10 in and wear 30 in pants. I'm looking at gravel bikes though. You are not alone in the short legs and long torso category.
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I'm of a very similar size. I got a custom gravel/cx frame made. Just recently I discovered the dimensions are almost identical to a stock size 54 Trek Domane frame.
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I hopped on a Specialized Sequoia Elite today. It was a teensy bit short in the top tube, but it fit and felt SO MUCH BETTER than a high BB bike. I even had clearance over the top tube, like a grown-up!
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