Is official... Trek launched electric Domane
10-05-18, 08:00 AM
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10-05-18, 08:43 AM
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When I rode in France, I saw folks on e-bikes able to tour that likely never would have been able to climb those passes without an e-bike. Meaning they saw and could do things they otherwise couldn't. That made me happy for them.
I'm not concerned about it on the local group rides, as it will never be allowed in our group. The hammer ride it is not allowed. In normal racing it is not allowed. So, it doesn't concern me.
Strava is already ruined to an extent, and e-bikes may well finish it off. A pro could show up to the region and destroy the local KOMs also, so there's that. So, I've stopped worrying about it.
If some ass wants to race me on their e-bike, I'll just u-turn and then finish my route once the idiot is out of the way.
I'm not concerned about it on the local group rides, as it will never be allowed in our group. The hammer ride it is not allowed. In normal racing it is not allowed. So, it doesn't concern me.
Strava is already ruined to an extent, and e-bikes may well finish it off. A pro could show up to the region and destroy the local KOMs also, so there's that. So, I've stopped worrying about it.
If some ass wants to race me on their e-bike, I'll just u-turn and then finish my route once the idiot is out of the way.
10-05-18, 09:57 AM
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That thing is hideous! Here's three e-bikes that look much nicer than that Llama looking bike. Heck, even Ribble makes an e-road bike much nicer than Trek.
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10-05-18, 10:52 AM
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That trek is one ugly sob, but then again, it's a trek.
10-05-18, 12:59 PM
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Really? Every time you roll out the door you ride 40-150 miles? I never do or try not to. I don't like being on a bicycle for more than 50 miles, particularly at higher exertion.
Most don't either. Battery life will be fine on this big battery bike. And battery life will only get better with time on e-bikes. On the flats, 100W with this heavier bike will still be a net positive in terms of rider watts saved for the same speed.
Most don't either. Battery life will be fine on this big battery bike. And battery life will only get better with time on e-bikes. On the flats, 100W with this heavier bike will still be a net positive in terms of rider watts saved for the same speed.
Mostly round trip rides including stops, although a few have been recorded on Strava as single legs.
At least 5 of those rides exceeded 130 miles, two of which were towing a trailer for 150+ miles.
I didn't see where a range was specified on the Trek. In my post, I indicated that if one keeps the assist light, one can probably go quite some distance (of course, it is also possible to carry a spare battery). So, for ordinary trips around town, the battery is probably just fine. And, maybe even for those long road trips.
I suppose I'm fine if we can get more people doing those 100+ mile commutes, if they choose to also use some assistance.
10-05-18, 01:19 PM
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I'd love to test ride one. See what it sounds and feels like.
You'll be a little limited on power and range with the Vivax system, but it should ride nicely without power (hopefully).
10-05-18, 01:26 PM
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Concept is cool. But it's to Fugly. No way I'm riding one.
10-05-18, 01:36 PM
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Or buy a pretty good used car and park and ride with your current bike from a closer location. That's what I did and will do again when I get another car to replace my old one that was totalled. With $6k you can get a lot of car or a lot of motorcycle...
10-05-18, 03:59 PM
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Depends what you want. I would rather have the Domane with big range and power.
10-05-18, 04:03 PM
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Not every time out the door, but I'm at 6040 miles for the year and 188 activities, or averaging just over 32 miles per ride.
Mostly round trip rides including stops, although a few have been recorded on Strava as single legs.
At least 5 of those rides exceeded 130 miles, two of which were towing a trailer for 150+ miles.
I didn't see where a range was specified on the Trek. In my post, I indicated that if one keeps the assist light, one can probably go quite some distance (of course, it is also possible to carry a spare battery). So, for ordinary trips around town, the battery is probably just fine. And, maybe even for those long road trips.
I suppose I'm fine if we can get more people doing those 100+ mile commutes, if they choose to also use some assistance.
Mostly round trip rides including stops, although a few have been recorded on Strava as single legs.
At least 5 of those rides exceeded 130 miles, two of which were towing a trailer for 150+ miles.
I didn't see where a range was specified on the Trek. In my post, I indicated that if one keeps the assist light, one can probably go quite some distance (of course, it is also possible to carry a spare battery). So, for ordinary trips around town, the battery is probably just fine. And, maybe even for those long road trips.
I suppose I'm fine if we can get more people doing those 100+ mile commutes, if they choose to also use some assistance.
I am sure the Domane ebike will run big power for 50 miles. All most people need. If you need range, likely having a remote and non downtube integrated battery would be best.
10-08-18, 11:32 AM
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Legality of eBikes
Tim....please update your FACTS, before spewing misinformation or FAKE NEWS!
Yes, Federal law is 750watt & 20mph with throttle only. Though to get around that, manufacturers can have an ebike that goes 28mph while pedaling only, or PAS.
Yes, Federal law is 750watt & 20mph with throttle only. Though to get around that, manufacturers can have an ebike that goes 28mph while pedaling only, or PAS.
10-08-18, 11:43 AM
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It's a moped. And you what riding a moped is likened to.
10-08-18, 12:00 PM
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https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...mane/c/B221-6/
I know gigant already has an electric road bike... but is an interesting topic.
While on the one hand, having electric assistance is definitely against a "purist cyclist", I get the idea is a good option to have for long or very tough rides.
I do wonder if using the e-bike can decrease your performance on a regular bike... or feel you "suck" in a regular road bike.
This Domane gives assiatance up to 28 mph... which is higher than most people's cruising speed on a road bike.
I know gigant already has an electric road bike... but is an interesting topic.
While on the one hand, having electric assistance is definitely against a "purist cyclist", I get the idea is a good option to have for long or very tough rides.
I do wonder if using the e-bike can decrease your performance on a regular bike... or feel you "suck" in a regular road bike.
This Domane gives assiatance up to 28 mph... which is higher than most people's cruising speed on a road bike.
Nice looking street ebike.....it's great to see the evolution of these ebikes, especially in the last few years advance so far!
History 101: Electric bikes were patented in 1895, so any "pursit cyclist" needs to embrace reality and know that these electric bikes will dominate and are here to stay! :-)
10-08-18, 12:07 PM
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e-bikes are not bicycles and the riders of these things are definitely not cyclists. Just call them riders.
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10-08-18, 12:18 PM
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Interesting that here's another ebike thread where the majority of posts are from someone who doesn't own an ebike but will happily regale us with the marketing he's internalized as his opinion.
10-08-18, 12:22 PM
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How....how, is it possible to be a senior member but so ignorant of eBikes? It's NOT a "mo"ped, since there is no MO. A moped is an ICE motor under 50cc with pedals. Electric bikes @ 750 watts and limited to 20mph is FEDERALLY classified as a BICYCLE and can go anywhere a bicycle is allowed!
10-08-18, 12:29 PM
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How....how, is it possible to be a senior member but so ignorant of eBikes? It's NOT a "mo"ped, since there is no MO. A moped is an ICE motor under 50cc with pedals. Electric bikes @ 750 watts and limited to 20mph is FEDERALLY classified as a BICYCLE and can go anywhere a bicycle is allowed!
And watch the name calling, or you might find yourself no longer a member of any sort.
10-08-18, 12:37 PM
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Nice looking street ebike.....it's great to see the evolution of these ebikes, especially in the last few years advance so far!
History 101: Electric bikes were patented in 1895, so any "pursit cyclist" needs to embrace reality and know that these electric bikes will dominate and are here to stay! :-)
Nice looking street ebike.....it's great to see the evolution of these ebikes, especially in the last few years advance so far!
History 101: Electric bikes were patented in 1895, so any "pursit cyclist" needs to embrace reality and know that these electric bikes will dominate and are here to stay! :-)
Many runners would take issue with a motor that helps push the legs even though it could be marketed as allowing the runner to run farther and keep up with others.
Many swimmers would take issue with a motor that helps kick the legs or pull the arms even though it could be marketed as allowing the swimmer to swim longer and keep up with others.
Many basketball players would take issue with a motor in a shoe that allows someone to jump higher even though it could be marketed as allowing a short player to simply jump higher to keep up with others.
In athletic competition and even recreational effort, there is pride in accomplishing something. When others do the same thing but with assistance, it can frustrate people. That is simply human nature.
A co-worker did a 50mi trail ride once where there is maybe 500' of climb in total. He asked me where I had ridden over the weekend and I mentioned how sore I was from the 55mi ride i did the day before. He bragged that it isnt all that tough. I brushed it off because I averaged 5-6mph faster than him and climbed 3000'. It wasnt worth clarifying the differences to him.
Apply that to ebikes.
...or just get angry and swear at other posters. we can see how well that goes over too.
ETA for kauaikit- it was mentioned in a now deleted post that my comments above are not inclusive for the elderly, the out of shape, or handicapped people. My comments seem exclusionary towards those groups because they are exclusionary. I exclude those groups when I am think about an motor assist Domane road bike and discuss road riding.
I absolutely think ebikes are an excellent addition to cycling overall and there is for sure a market that will benefit from ebikes. Getting people out into nature is a good thing and if it takes ebikes to make that happen, then great.
To me, there is a clear distinction between cycling with a friend or family for recreation and fun, and riding competitively for exercise/races/group rides. My comments above are specific to the exercise/races/group rides type of cyclist.
Also- to claim its inconsistent of me to think this way if i drive a car or fly in a plane is absurd. Those are forms of transportation and not recreation. Ill let you in on a secret- motor assist for transportation is a neat idea to me. WHAAA?!?! Yup.
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How....how, is it possible to be a senior member but so ignorant of eBikes? It's NOT a "mo"ped, since there is no MO. A moped is an ICE motor under 50cc with pedals. Electric bikes @ 750 watts and limited to 20mph is FEDERALLY classified as a BICYCLE and can go anywhere a bicycle is allowed!
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How....how, is it possible to be a senior member but so ignorant of eBikes? It's NOT a "mo"ped, since there is no MO. A moped is an ICE motor under 50cc with pedals. Electric bikes @ 750 watts and limited to 20mph is FEDERALLY classified as a BICYCLE and can go anywhere a bicycle is allowed!
FOR NOW, Please don't post in this thread again. Thanks
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