Stepping up my helmet game, need help.
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We just bought the Lazer Z1 MIPS. The retention system is different than most, and my wife and I feel like they are the most comfortable helmets we have ever worn. you can buy a snap on "aeroshell" for TTs and cold weather...it just covers most of the vents. I found that the sizing is similar to Giro, since the same size fit us in both. Highly recommend
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In terms of value for money, Cinder has one of the best on the market IMO. I was about to buy one, but then I saw Oakley, and you know, the brand name made me change my mind.
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Honestly, I don't know because all my helmets have been in the $50-75 range, so I haven't slipped into the high end with bigger/more vents. I keep wanting to, but I've only done one ride longer than 10 miles (lots of little 1-5 mile jaunts through the neighborhood with the kids teaching the littlest how to ride during the shutdown) that wasn't on Zwift in the last year (and didn't ride the previous 2 years or so due to injury), so I don't really ride enough to need a fancy new helmet at this point. My current one has mostly been sitting in the closet gathering dust for the last several years.
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Air flow through the helmet was always one of the most important considerations for helmets I get. Another is how low do they come in front. Too high and you have an unprotected forehead. Too low and you'll have a sore neck from having to crane your head up to see when in the drops.
I was almost ready to trash my new helmet and look for another because I wasn't able to see far enough ahead when in the drops. However I finally found some adjustment inside that allowed my to control how far back on my head it sat. It wasn't done with the straps as was my older helmet.
MIPS, Wavecell, while better in some cases, they aren't that much better any other CPSC certified helmet. The differences tested from what I've read are slight. But hey, no expense for safety right? However there are plenty of sub 100 dollar MIPS helmets.
As always, get one that fits.
I was almost ready to trash my new helmet and look for another because I wasn't able to see far enough ahead when in the drops. However I finally found some adjustment inside that allowed my to control how far back on my head it sat. It wasn't done with the straps as was my older helmet.
MIPS, Wavecell, while better in some cases, they aren't that much better any other CPSC certified helmet. The differences tested from what I've read are slight. But hey, no expense for safety right? However there are plenty of sub 100 dollar MIPS helmets.
As always, get one that fits.
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Thanks so much for all the responses. Just got back from trying on helmets and ended up with a Kask Protone. Super comfortable, looking forward to trying it out!
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Just for something different, but evidently quite light, am waiting on an Abus Airbreaker
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Lazer Z1 and MET (Trenta?) have been tested and reportedly are among the most aero of the vented helmets. I should have snagged one pre-pandemic when the prices were silly low, like $50-$75. Now everything is back to full MSRP or close to it.
Venting matters. I have two Bell helmets (Formula and I forgot the other model) with conventional vents and they're adequately vented. The Bell Formula MIPS and similar Bell helmets made the past couple of years have a clever drip channel doodad that diverts most sweat from pouring into my eyes. It drips about an inch in front of the face, and sometimes blows back into my face, but it's better than most conventional helmets. The Bell Formula is an outstanding value, but doesn't cover quite as low on the skull as I'd like. After witnessing some falls and head impacts among other cyclists locally I can see where some helmets need better coverage.
But my POC Omne Air Spin is much cooler. I can really feel the air cooling effect, and when I hold a hand behind the helmet I can feel the heat venting back there. Friends who use the Octal and Ventral say the same thing - POC are outstanding for cooling. But they're kinda bulbous, mushroom-head looking things, sorta ugly-chic. My only gripe about the Omne Air Spin is the overhanging brow partially blocks my forward view when I'm low in the drops, and it's a bit heavy. And it's probably the opposite of aero. But it's a great summer helmet for commuting, casual rides and zone 2 rides when I'm not in the drops much.
Another poster mentioned ABUS -- I'm considering one based on the apparent fit I saw on Phil Gaimon's training partner for his Everesting challenge last month. I forget his partner's name, but he wore an ABUS helmet that looked really safe, and gently tapers inward so it's less bulbous than the POC. I noticed it covers much lower on the skull than my Bells, especially the rear/occipital region.
Venting matters. I have two Bell helmets (Formula and I forgot the other model) with conventional vents and they're adequately vented. The Bell Formula MIPS and similar Bell helmets made the past couple of years have a clever drip channel doodad that diverts most sweat from pouring into my eyes. It drips about an inch in front of the face, and sometimes blows back into my face, but it's better than most conventional helmets. The Bell Formula is an outstanding value, but doesn't cover quite as low on the skull as I'd like. After witnessing some falls and head impacts among other cyclists locally I can see where some helmets need better coverage.
But my POC Omne Air Spin is much cooler. I can really feel the air cooling effect, and when I hold a hand behind the helmet I can feel the heat venting back there. Friends who use the Octal and Ventral say the same thing - POC are outstanding for cooling. But they're kinda bulbous, mushroom-head looking things, sorta ugly-chic. My only gripe about the Omne Air Spin is the overhanging brow partially blocks my forward view when I'm low in the drops, and it's a bit heavy. And it's probably the opposite of aero. But it's a great summer helmet for commuting, casual rides and zone 2 rides when I'm not in the drops much.
Another poster mentioned ABUS -- I'm considering one based on the apparent fit I saw on Phil Gaimon's training partner for his Everesting challenge last month. I forget his partner's name, but he wore an ABUS helmet that looked really safe, and gently tapers inward so it's less bulbous than the POC. I noticed it covers much lower on the skull than my Bells, especially the rear/occipital region.
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Another poster mentioned ABUS -- I'm considering one based on the apparent fit I saw on Phil Gaimon's training partner for his Everesting challenge last month. I forget his partner's name, but he wore an ABUS helmet that looked really safe, and gently tapers inward so it's less bulbous than the POC.
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That's the one.
I'm a bit more safety conscious now and while I prefer the POC for better coverage lower on the skull, the bulbous shape is also a bit annoying. The Abus design appears to cover as low on the skull as the POC, but tapers inward so it's less bulbous.
That particular Abus also appears to have vents similar to the POC Omne Air Spin, which has a sort of "roof" across the top from ear to ear, which effectively scoops air across the scalp. Excellent cooling, even on my two-hour Saturday noon ride when the temp went from 110-115F by 2 pm. I was surprised how much more effective that roof/scoop design was for cooling compared with my more conventional Bell helmets with the usual diagonal elongated diamond slash vents.
I'm a bit more safety conscious now and while I prefer the POC for better coverage lower on the skull, the bulbous shape is also a bit annoying. The Abus design appears to cover as low on the skull as the POC, but tapers inward so it's less bulbous.
That particular Abus also appears to have vents similar to the POC Omne Air Spin, which has a sort of "roof" across the top from ear to ear, which effectively scoops air across the scalp. Excellent cooling, even on my two-hour Saturday noon ride when the temp went from 110-115F by 2 pm. I was surprised how much more effective that roof/scoop design was for cooling compared with my more conventional Bell helmets with the usual diagonal elongated diamond slash vents.
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which abus model is that?
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That's the one.
I'm a bit more safety conscious now and while I prefer the POC for better coverage lower on the skull, the bulbous shape is also a bit annoying. The Abus design appears to cover as low on the skull as the POC, but tapers inward so it's less bulbous.
That particular Abus also appears to have vents similar to the POC Omne Air Spin, which has a sort of "roof" across the top from ear to ear, which effectively scoops air across the scalp. Excellent cooling, even on my two-hour Saturday noon ride when the temp went from 110-115F by 2 pm. I was surprised how much more effective that roof/scoop design was for cooling compared with my more conventional Bell helmets with the usual diagonal elongated diamond slash vents.
I'm a bit more safety conscious now and while I prefer the POC for better coverage lower on the skull, the bulbous shape is also a bit annoying. The Abus design appears to cover as low on the skull as the POC, but tapers inward so it's less bulbous.
That particular Abus also appears to have vents similar to the POC Omne Air Spin, which has a sort of "roof" across the top from ear to ear, which effectively scoops air across the scalp. Excellent cooling, even on my two-hour Saturday noon ride when the temp went from 110-115F by 2 pm. I was surprised how much more effective that roof/scoop design was for cooling compared with my more conventional Bell helmets with the usual diagonal elongated diamond slash vents.
Loving the weight (or lack thereof).. 120 grams less than my SUV sized Bell Z20 MIPS. No MIPS in this helmet though -- I kinda equate to driving a convertible instead of a sedan from safety standpoint ;-) Haven't had it out on the road and in the heat yet.. lots o' vents though. Seems really well thought out.
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The lighter weight alone might persuade me to buy one. Only gripe I have about the POC is the weight. I got the large -- a little too large for my noggin -- and it weighs about 350 grams. Some days when my old neck injury pain flares up I don't like any weight on my head, but I won't ride without a helmet.
Really nice helmet btw. Just showed up (3 weeks from Bikeinn order date.. relatively not too bad for them). FYI, Canyon fans, the Airbreaker with Canyon branding added in some of their own color schemes is available on the canyon.com website.. at prices as good as anywhere else. Pretty pricey though.
Loving the weight (or lack thereof).. 120 grams less than my SUV sized Bell Z20 MIPS. No MIPS in this helmet though -- I kinda equate to driving a convertible instead of a sedan from safety standpoint ;-) Haven't had it out on the road and in the heat yet.. lots o' vents though. Seems really well thought out.
Loving the weight (or lack thereof).. 120 grams less than my SUV sized Bell Z20 MIPS. No MIPS in this helmet though -- I kinda equate to driving a convertible instead of a sedan from safety standpoint ;-) Haven't had it out on the road and in the heat yet.. lots o' vents though. Seems really well thought out.
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I saved $8.99 shipping having my gloves delivered to my LBS, so I'm copying some of these down to see if they have them to try on.
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I am not trying to start a discussion that belongs to P&R, but the family behind ABUS has some very interesting (shall we say) views that they espouse in how they run their business. Something to perhaps consider...
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Yeah, I see the issue. Wasn't aware of that before.
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I think it's the fact that they are very misogynistic in their practices.
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But I still don't see why I should boycott them because of it. I am sure I interact with plenty of terrible people, buy from dubious companies (no one should buy off of Amazon if we go by this logic).